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REAGAN HIGH FOOTBALL RULES

Back during my original run on Pandagon, I made the comment that conservatism cannot fail - conservatism can only be failed.

There’s a second part to that formulation, though.  Conservatism, in addition to being a fundamentally perfect doctrine for the American people, is also the doctrine that the American people are always in search of, no matter the times, circumstances, or even the actual choices they make.  As Think Progress shows, conservatives can contend both that Obama was a far-left candidate with no mandate for his plans, but that he was also a conservative center-right candidate who won overwhelming mandates for a moderate version of the right’s agenda.  It doesn’t really matter what Americans vote for, because they’re always voting for the same thing, even if they vote for an entirely different candidate promising entirely different things.

The real kicker, though, comes from Dick Armey, via RedState:

The modern Republican Party has risen above its insecurities to achieve political success. Ronald Reagan, for example, held an unshakably positive vision of American capitalism. He didn’t feel a need to qualify the meaning of his conservatism. He understood that big government was cruel and uncaring of individual aspirations. Small government conservatism was, by definition, compassionate—offering every American a way up to self-determination and economic prosperity.

Republicans lost control of Congress in 2006 because voters no longer saw Republicans as the party of limited government. They have since rejected virtually every opportunity to recapture this identity. But their failure to do so must not be misconstrued as a rejection of principles of individual liberty by the American people. The evidence suggests we are still a nation of pocketbook conservatives most happy when government has enough respect to leave us alone and to mind its own business. The worrisome question is whether either political party understands this.

I just want to understand this.  The nation has reached an overarching consensus concerning the shape and nature of government, reached in 1980 with the election of Ronald Reagan and reinforced by his reelection in 1984.  Since then, the nation has elected his Vice President once and that man’s son twice to the office of the presidency, and has also twice elected a Democratic president who raised taxes and stopped running Reaganite deficits and just this week another Democratic president who was accused of being a socialist non-stop for three straight weeks.  The two Republicans, by the end of their terms, were also excoriated for betraying conservative principles - meaning that in the 24 years since Reagan won his last election, Americans have failed to vote for conservatives six straight times.  It also means that Republicans have failed to produce conservative candidates six straight times, despite not only being the conservative party, but going through year after year after year of wailing and gnashing about the lack of conservative leaders. 

Why does this happen?  Why, if the GOP found the successful political and policy mix in 1980, have they failed time and time again to produce a single conservative candidate despite having dozens of governors, hundreds of Representatives and Senators and any number of conservative activists, all of whom are intelligent enough to read these post-mortems, study Reagan’s success and mimic them?
On the one hand, you could argue that Reagan-style conservatism is harder to practice than it is to promote, and that the challenge of governing in such a way will invariably fall to outside pressures.  The problem with this, though, is that most politicians are willing to jump through any number of hoops and make any number of concessions to the blowing of the political winds.  If Reagan’s conservatism always wins, and is what the public always demands, it seems like a job which depends on retaining power would invariably produce a stream of conservatives with an undeniable lock on the reigns of power. 

Given that this doesn’t happen, we’re left to understand why.  The American public could be too stupid to understand the conservatism that it so enjoys is available in those candidates who present it to them; the crusty, awkward, stumbling freakshows who’ve made up the post-Reagan coalition of Republican candidates just haven’t been able to make the connection to the American people necessary.  If this is the case, though, the message simply can’t be that strong - if conservatism requires Reagan’s prodigious political talents to win and wield power, it doesn’t really make sense that the American populace is searching for his ideological proclivities in all of its leaders.

It could also be that the people promoting the American consensus on conservatism are delusional, whiny losers who can’t accept the fact that the American people want different things at different times and that 1981-1989 is not when St. Ronnie’s perfection determined the end of the evolution of American political preferences.

The key problem with the conservative movement isn’t simply their adherence to a dysfunctional and dated ideology, it’s the idea that the entirety of political discourse revolves around them and their beliefs.  No nation of 300 million people (and growing) stays utterly static in its response to changing economic, social and foreign policy circumstances over the course of two and a half decades - it just doesn’t happen.  The fact that America keeps electing drastically different politicians to the office of the Presidency, keeps switching partisan control of its legislatures and governorships, and in general doesn’t really seem to be searching out another Reagan should, theoretically, be indicative of the fact that maybe conservatism isn’t the chosen solution to all of life’s problems.

For all the surely hilarious internecine fights that are sure to break out over the next few years, eventually this group of political reprobates needs to have a cake-smeared slapfight about maybe believing something outside of their dogeared copies of Conscience of a Conservative.  If conservatism stopped responding to outside stimuli in the 1980s, most people would declare it, well, dead. 

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 12:37 PM • (17) Comments

Part of the problem for them is that when push comes to shove, Reagan wasn’t all that conservative. Try to point out to them that Reagan signed into law the largest tax increase in U.S. history, and they just cover their ears and say “Na na na na not listening!” But hey, I welcome their continued inability to see that it’s their message, not the way they sell it, that’s failed.

Comment #1: Dweeze  on  11/08  at  01:09 PM

And the small-government, conservative policies he did implement were not necessarily that effective, either. For example, his reluctance to pour funding into HIV/AIDS research in the early 80s forced him to spend a ton of money on welfare for people sick with the disease by 1987/88.

Comment #2: cyrano  on  11/08  at  01:24 PM

The Republican Party today is where the Democratic Party was in 1980. Defeated, demoralized, clueless, and living in the past with an outdated message that doesn’t appeal to a changing country. When I heard Republicans invoke the specter of Jimmy Carter in fucking 2008, I must have been thinking the same thing Americans felt in 1980 when the old Democrats invoked Herbert Hoover—I don’t care about ancient history, what are you going to do NOW?

Comment #3: Ben D.  on  11/08  at  01:38 PM

Whats more, just like the Democrats in 1980 had some of their best issues taken away from them by success—old age pensions, health care for the poor and old, the defeat of isolationism and building of international alliances, the building of a middle class—conservatives have had some of their best hobby horses rendered irrelevant for the same reason. Crime has been declining consistently since 1991, welfare has been “reformed”, Communism is dead.

Comment #4: Ben D.  on  11/08  at  01:42 PM

I think the real problems started when the whole mess turned malignant and turned in to a cancer eating the heart out of what made America a post WWII superpower. 

The war on science.  The war on the intelligence infrastructure.  The war in Iraq.  Hurricane Katrina.  Reagan didn’t do this kind of damage in eight years.  Bush I refused to do this damage.  Both would have done much more for the people of New Orleans, or, at least, reacted much more quickly and put on the barest face of compassion quite immediately.

Comment #5: Ms Kate  on  11/08  at  01:52 PM

You want the biggest difference between Reagan and Bush II in a nutshell?

Reagan worked with the Democrats to fully fund Social Security. Bush II tried to destroy Social Security.

Comment #6: Ben D.  on  11/08  at  01:55 PM

Title = Bill and Ted reference?

Comment #7: Rebecca  on  11/08  at  02:54 PM

I think Rebecca wins the prize.

Comment #8: Neil the Ethical Werewolf  on  11/08  at  03:35 PM

Ben and Jesse couldn’t be more right.  Ronald Reagan ran in an era of high crime, inner-city collapse, high taxes, stagflation, and perceived weakness and humiliation on the international stage.  He offered policy prescriptions designed to deal with those issues.

Crime has been down for so long that it doesn’t appear on most voters’ radar screens.  Cities have been revitalized.  Marginal tax rates have hovered between 35-39% for more than ten years.  The Soviet Union is no more, and far from being “weak,” we are still the sole military superpower, and have been for the better part of two decades.  Any humiliation we are experiencing overseas is entirely our own doing, and everybody knows it.

And all the Republicans can think of offering is more tax cuts for the highest earners, as though the 1980s, 1990s and the 2000s had never happened.

Worse—the Republicans have turned into a cargo cult.  They remember Ronald Reagan, and he promised tax cuts and won.  They watched Bill Clinton—“Bubba”—beat them like a cheap drum.  So!  The solution must be to have a Bubba of our own, but offering tax cuts!  Can’t lose!
Forget the rest of Reagan’s policy prescriptions and the context for them.  Forget that he had been honing his policy ideas and his thinking over 30 years.  Forget also that Bill Clinton, despite his Arkansas single-parent roots, was a Rhodes Scholar.  All we need is a Bubba with tax cuts, and the cargo planes full of voters will come!

I worked on Ronald Reagan’s reelection campaign in 1984, and I’m not ashamed of it. 
I started giving money to Barack Obama in 2004, for his Senate campaign, and I gave money and volunteered for him this year.  The world has moved on.  The Republicans—haven’t.

Comment #9: elmo  on  11/08  at  05:25 PM

Ben and Elmo, are you really declaring conservatism is a victim of its own success?  That a law and order platform is successful with 2 million citizens in jail?  That a tax cutting platform is successful when we all owe $30K in national debt?  That Communism fell because of Manichean foreign policy, rather than in spite of it? 

Conservatism is dying because it is stupid, not because it is successful.  Whatever future Republicans look like, they won’t win unless they’re not conservative in the traditional mold.

Comment #10: Loneoak  on  11/08  at  05:56 PM

I think another problem is that many voters love tax cuts, but they hate seeing services cut.  It’s a frustrating inconsistency since you can’t have government services without money to pay for them.  Not wanting to get voted out for cutting services that the voters now take for granted, Republicans have responded to this conundrum by cutting taxes, especially on the rich, and racking up debt.  Finally, the voters are starting to get it (I hope.), and, in this last election, they saw just how unserious the Republicans are.

Comment #11: keshmeshi  on  11/08  at  06:01 PM

Loneoak—

Correlation != causation. I’m not saying conservatism caused those things to end—just that they don’t exist anymore.

Comment #12: Ben D.  on  11/08  at  06:45 PM

Ben and elmo mean “solved” in the sense of “no longer top tier political issues”, which is not the same thing as the problems actually being resolved.
Political issues get discussed, actions are taken, and sooner or later, the problem either resolves itself, something more important happens, or in the case of welfare, sufficient reforms are enacted to resolve the issue to a point where the only people who care are the immediately effected and insane cranks who still think too much of their money is going to the shiftless.

The republicans need some time off to look around and figure out which forms of selfishness and douchebaggery will be the best to build a political coalition around for the 21st century. That will become the “true conservatism” of St. Ronald, exemplified by whatever cherry-picked quotes they find.

What is surprising to me is how quickly fairly entrenched rightwing economic ideas have been pulled in.

Comment #13: Indy  on  11/08  at  09:00 PM

I think another problem is that many voters love tax cuts, but they hate seeing services cut.  It’s a frustrating inconsistency since you can’t have government services without money to pay for them.  Not wanting to get voted out for cutting services that the voters now take for granted, Republicans have responded to this conundrum by cutting taxes, especially on the rich, and racking up debt.  Finally, the voters are starting to get it (I hope.), and, in this last election, they saw just how unserious the Republicans are.

Quoted (in full) for Truth

Keshmeshi, you say what I can only feel raspberry

Comment #14: Erl  on  11/09  at  04:10 AM

I read it several times but I am just not parsing the “obama won because he actually represented moderate conservative ideas” 
WTF?
Obama is taking a wrecking ball to the worst of the decider’s unilateral conservative dictates.

Comment #15: greensmile  on  11/09  at  12:36 PM

“Small government conservatism was, by definition, compassionate” - by definition! ROTFLMAO.

Comment #16: Nancy Irving  on  11/10  at  08:32 AM

Conservatives since Reagan abandoned the notion of Paying As You Go, replacing it with borrow-and-spend. As a result, 70% of our National Debt was racked up by Reagan and the two Bushes.

Further, apparently conservatives are stupid. The McCain campaign was filled with simple-minded “solutions” (Drill Baby Drill) to complex issues they clearly didn’t understand:

Fannie and Freddie caused all our problems. Notwithstanding they didn’t buy up securitized subprime debt till 2006. The Carter-era act that required banks to lend money where they took deposits was responsible for the 75% of sub-prime and NINJA loans made by mortgage brokers during the Bush Bubble. Clearly, conservatives do not understand causation. Raising taxes on the rich is a redistribution of wealth, become some low earners receive the earned income tax credit, I suppose. (As he signed it into law, the conservative idol St. Ronald of Reagan described the EITC as “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress.”)

Comment #17: Hector B.  on  11/10  at  07:49 PM
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