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Replying to Jesse Bering, a guest post by Lindsay Beyerstein

(Amanda’s note: Lindsay has graciously written a retort to Jesse Bering in Slate, and I asked her if she’s post i here. Bering has a history of half-baked evo psych writings that play loose with the concept that rape is all that bad, and Lindsay was kind enough to do the heavy lifting on this article.)

By Lindsay Beyerstein

Jesse Bering has a very disturbing piece in Slate about intergenerational sex. It starts off creepy and culminates with a partial defense of raping 98-year-old woman with dementia. Forgive the unwieldy block quotes, but without them, I fear the casual reader will assume that I am trying to smear Bering by mischaracterizing his work.

Bering opens with the disclaimer that he’s “always found elderly women rather endearing”:

Just as chubby, doe-eyed infants and the smell of baby powder bring out the maternal part of my androgynous personality, the Loris-like gait of an aged spinster redolent with ancient perfume elicits in me a similar strain of docility. On more than one occasion I have been tempted to reach out and hug a lonely old widow making her way slowly down the grocery-store aisle. Yet it is safe to say that, while I am not immune to other curious sexual rumblings from time to time, I have never been titillated by an octogenarian. (Since I’m a gay man, I should add that this applies to the penis-bearing elderly, too. I never really knew my grandfathers, though, so the inbound anecdote wasn’t quite as fitting.)

There certainly are individuals for whom the elderly are equated, quite strongly, with the erotic, and it’s these fascinating, little-known souls—referred to in the clinical scientific literature as gerontophiles—to whom we shall now turn. Austrian psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing, in his classic 1886 book on sexual deviancy, Psycopathia Sexualis, first described this particular “erotic age orientation.”

To recap: Bering loves old people, he really does. He thinks little old ladies are adorable, just like babies and lorises. (You know what they do to lorises, right?) But the 35-year-old psychologist has never, ever, ever been sexually attracted to an eighty-something, not even an octogenarian dude. There are people who find advanced age very sexy, and those people are sexual deviants. Got it?

Bering claims that he is drawing a line between people who can only become aroused by elders and those who are simply attracted to older folks, but his piece runs the two concepts together from the very first paragraphs. “People for whom the elderly are equated, quite strongly, with the erotic” covers a lot of ground.

Bering can’t resist a dig at the elderly and their admirers, “Rather, in sheer chronological terms, gerontophiles are perhaps better thought of as being closer to necrophiles than cougar-hunters.” He’s ripping off the old joke that gerontophlia is a heartbeat away from necrophilia. The “sheer chronological terms” qualifier doesn’t turn the cheap shot into a high-minded apercu.

Bering fusses over the precise definition of “gerontophilia” but he doesn’t address the central conceptual problem with the entire psychiatric framework for “diagnosing” paraphilias and fetishes. In a world where we can date whoever we like, the difference between a paraphilia and a “type” becomes meaningless. If I’m only attracted to skinny brown haired guys between the ages of 25 and 45, I just don’t date anyone else. Nobody questions this relatively rigid preference because it fits with society’s definition of normal. If I only wanted to date 80-something dudes, Bering would say I was a deviant. Actually, he’d say I was a golddigger because later in the essay asserts that female gerontophiles don’t exist.

The standard pop culture disclaimer is that it becomes a paraphilia or a fetish when you absolutely need that kind of partner/input to become sexually aroused. That stereotype is out of date. Today, psychiatrists recognize that most people with paraphilias engage in paraphilic and non-paraphilic sexual behaviors. Also, these days, the clinical category of paraphilia is largely reserved people with compulsions towards non-consensual sex, e.g., child molesters, subway flashers, peeping toms, and so on. A strong attraction to elders doesn’t fit.

But for the sake of argument, consider an exclusive heterosexual like General J.C. Christian. The General, a Manly 11 on the Scale of Absolute Gender, is absolutely dependent upon women, or thoughts of women, to become aroused. Every single time. Nothing else has ever aroused him in his life. Does that mean the General has heterophilia? No.

Bering insists he is incapable of erotic thoughts about elders. Does that mean Bering some kind of paraphilia for adults roughly his own age? No. He just has his preferences, like everyone else.

Incidentally, the DSM, the bible of mainstream American psychiatry, classified homosexuality as a paraphilia until 1973. Gerontophilia isn’t listed in the DSM—which says a lot about why it isn’t studied more. To psychiatry’s credit, a thing for grey beards is no more remarkable than a thing for redheads, as long as it’s all between consenting adults.

Bering notes that the term “gerontophilia” is also sometimes used by criminologists to describe serial sexual predators who target elderly victims. He argues, sensibly, that these criminals are not necessarily driven by a sexual fixation on the elderly, per se. They may simply be looking for the easiest targets. Feminists have been saying this all along. Rapists don’t rape because they can’t get the kind of sex they like. Rape is the kind of sex they like.

The notion that serial rapists who target the elderly are exploiting their vulnerability fits well with the predator theory of rape, the empirically-based hypothesis that most rape is committed by a relatively small number of hardcore serial acquaintance rapists with finely-tuned modus operandi and multiple victims over their extended criminal careers.

As Thomas explains in a fascinating post on the research behind predator theory, “[t]hese rapists select targets based on the likelihood that they can rape without meaningful consequence, and favor alcohol and avoid overt force as tools to defeat resistance for just this reason.” So far, the research has focused on rapists who target vulnerable younger victims, but it stands to reason that opportunistic predators might gravitate towards vulnerable older victims as well.

The low point of the essay is where Bering argues that a confessed nursing home rapist might have had a point when he excused his actions on the grounds that his victims didn’t know what was going on:

The authors describe the case of a 33-year-old nursing-home assistant who’d been quietly molesting and raping his female charges for several years. Some of this man’s victims were rounding the epochal century mark and were suffering from dementia, thus his defense was that they were “not aware of what was happening.”

The abuse might have continued in silence, had not the shrewd daughter of a 98-year-old woman deduced foul play by noticing that her mom became uncharacteristically frightened whenever the elder-molesting aide came into the room. Ball also reviews forensic data revealing that, in the U.K., somewhere between 2 and 7 percent of all rape victims are over the age of 60.

Elder sexual abuse is reprehensible, of course; but from a bloodless moral philosophical perspective, it does raise intriguing questions about issues related to consent, trauma, and the impact of sex crimes on victims with different psychological and physical stakes. Is the rape of a 98-year-old Alzheimer’s patient—who, whether we like it or not, has only a limited awareness of what is happening, just as the perpetrator says—comparable to, say, the rape of a lucid, vulnerable child who would have to deal with the emotional scars of such sexual violence for the rest of his or her long life, or a teenager who might be impregnated? [Emphases added.]

Would Bering accept this same fallacious argument from a rapist who roofied other men? After all, they wouldn’t remember, and they couldn’t get pregnant. So, by that logic, our roofie rapist would be less reprehensible than your run-of-the-mill predator. I’m guessing Bering wouldn’t buy that argument, because he takes it for granted that men are people.

Even this 98-year-old woman’s suffering doesn’t count. Bering casually acknowledges that this woman was recoiling in terror whenever she saw her assailant, so, it’s not like he’s musing about the limits of consent in a person with diminished cognitive capacity.

Bering is intrigued by the possibility that a 98-year-old woman with dementia is simply less than human.

 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 01:43 PM • (45) Comments

So the elderlies who are wanting/having sex with other elderlies are pervs too? Oh, that’s right. They don’t exist, or if they do, they’re certainly not people. Thanks, Bering!

Comment #1: benvolio  on  04/07  at  02:24 PM

Just an adendum: I don’t want to make out like the American Psychiatric Association and the DSM are big enlightened heros in all this. Their definition of paraphilia thankfully ditched homosexuality, but it’s still deeply flawed. For example, it doesn’t clearly differentiate between consensual kink (where people have a strong and abiding interest in exploring fantasies around BDSM, or voyeurism, or some other idiosyncratic sexual trope with consenting partners) vs. people who feel compelled to act out those desires with non-consenting victims.

Comment #2: Lindsay Beyerstein  on  04/07  at  02:47 PM

By this logic, raping someone in a coma is practically a victimless crime.

And this guy’s a psychologist? I hope to God he doesn’t actually try to treat anyone.

Comment #3: Bitter Scribe  on  04/07  at  02:52 PM

First of all, WHAT THE FUCK.  Secondly, if the woman was visibly upset every time he came into the room THEN SHE WAS AWARE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING.  Third, there are reasons that our laws are very explicit regarding issues of consent when it comes to vulnerable populations.  And finally, if he thinks that preying on elderly women with dementia raises “intriguing questions,” then he is a fucking sociopath.

Comment #4: Blitzgal  on  04/07  at  04:32 PM

Seconded, blitzgal. It “raises intriguing questions” only in Bering’s mind. Would Bering ponder the same “intriguing questions” about RAPE if the victims were comatose, or infants?

How removed from reality this is. Maybe Bering could just lock himself up in his ivory tower and leave civilization alone.

Comment #5: Panda don (from woods of Oxford)  on  04/07  at  04:46 PM

I’m not easily shocked, so I have to admit I’m not shocked by the idea that yet another privileged young (white?) man wants to “explore the possibility” that a certain section of the population doesn’t warrant the same protections as the rest of humanity. 

Gah!

And double Gah!

I’m honestly not sure which is worse, the “I’m only playing devil’s advocate” aspect of it, or the “can we really count people with dementia as human?” aspect of it. 

Now that I have time to get back in the political/feminist fray full time, I’m remembering how much I hate the ‘devil’s advocate’ who comes wading into peoples’ real lives with a whole lot of “what ifs” and “imagine thats”.  I have a couple of long time friends (and a husband) who do that on occasion, and it never fails to piss me right the fuck off. 

It really is like a bad case of “but aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln.”  Imagine if…. it were okay to rape people with dementia (and you notice he didn’t mention gay rape at all—not that it is by any means a majority, but yes, gay rape of elders also happens)—(whispered: would you do it?)  It’s an intriguing question, you know.  Possibly titillating. 

And frankly disgusting that we are still having this conversation.

As an aside, General JC Christian, Patriot, is a parody, and a very good one, at that.  Your post does not make it clear that you’re aware of that.

Comment #6: odanu  on  04/07  at  04:47 PM

It terrifies me that this man is a psychologist, even if he only does research—- the thought of this guy interacting with human research subjects scares me almost as much as thinking of him as a clinician does.

Also, how can he say the woman—- whom he reported just one paragraph earlier as showing fear when her rapist entered the room—- didn’t know what was happening to her? Clearly she did; he admits that she did.

Also, this:

Is the rape of a 98-year-old Alzheimer’s patient ... comparable to, say, the rape of a lucid, vulnerable child who would have to deal with the emotional scars of such sexual violence for the rest of his or her long life, or a teenager who might be impregnated?

looks a lot like he’s trying to say that some kinds of rape aren’t all that bad, morally speaking.

Just don’t rape anyone, Jesse Bering! How hard is that?!

Comment #7: Thalestris  on  04/07  at  04:51 PM

General JC Christian, Patriot is one of the great satirists of our age.

Comment #8: Lindsay Beyerstein  on  04/07  at  04:51 PM

I haven’t read The General in quite a while, but it’s nice to see that he’s still around.

Another element of Bering’s sociopathy:  the implication that the primary (or only) harm caused to a teenager through rape is pregnancy.

I bet Bering’s enough of a moron to assume that all rapists of children are pedophiles who can’t help it.  The evidence proves that most are straight males who enjoy rape and logically conclude that children are better victims, both for their vulnerability and their unlikeliness to report what happened.

Comment #9: keshmeshi  on  04/07  at  05:47 PM

Bering is both a sick fuck and apologist for the sick fuck.

Comment #10: judybrowni  on  04/07  at  06:36 PM

Appreciate the picture of Harold and Maude.  If the shrink saw that movie he’d stroke out.

Comment #11: Deal with reality  on  04/07  at  06:36 PM

And I meant, of course that Bering is apologist for the sick fuck rapist.

Comment #12: judybrowni  on  04/07  at  06:39 PM

Elder sexual abuse is reprehensible, of course; but from a bloodless moral philosophical perspective, it does raise intriguing questions about issues related to consent, trauma, and the impact of sex crimes on victims with different psychological and physical stake.

I vill start to egzamine dis perspective by raping zis lab rat. Bestiality iz reprehensible, of course; but...

Comment #13: Gracchus.  on  04/07  at  06:44 PM

OK, I am officially totally freaked out by this.  I think I will refrain from saying more lest I say something injudicious, like suggesting that Mr. Bering perform an extremely dangerous and painful act of auto-eroticism involving power tools.

Comment #14: DrDick  on  04/07  at  06:46 PM

Deal with reality:  you beat me to giving a high five for the still from Harold and Maude.  BTW, it was on one of the movie channels the other day and I enjoyed it as much as when I saw it in a theatre (mumble-mumble) years ago.

Comment #15: PurpleGirl  on  04/07  at  06:53 PM

Just as chubby, doe-eyed infants and the smell of baby powder bring out the maternal part of my androgynous personality, the Loris-like gait of an aged spinster redolent with ancient perfume elicits in me a similar strain of docility.

God, I want to kick his ass just for writing that sentence. You can add “pretentious” and “a terrible writer” to his manifold list of crimes.

Comment #16: Sophist FCD  on  04/07  at  07:34 PM

If he’s a research psychologist then he can not only mess with his subjects’ minds, he can also skew the research data. Seriously…having worked in psych research, it takes an extremely ethical researcher to turn out good data. This guy does not seem ethical in the least.

Comment #17: Jodi  on  04/07  at  08:46 PM

Gah!  What a creepy motherfucker.  That’s some really grotty shit he’s writing for Slate, in my opinion.

Comment #18: A Canadian Girl  on  04/07  at  09:02 PM

If she doesn’t know what’s going on, she can’t CONSENT, and that makes it RAPE! This asshole is a perfect example of why affirmative standards of consent are needed. The absence of a “no” doesn’t necessarily establish consent.

Comment #19: reverie  on  04/07  at  09:34 PM

bering is a one-person-justification for the continued judicious use of the word “creep”, howling from the menz brigade about how “mean” the word is notwithstanding.

Comment #20: jadehawk  on  04/07  at  09:41 PM

his asshole is a perfect example of why affirmative standards of consent are needed. The absence of a “no” doesn’t necessarily establish consent.

QFT. In fact, I’d say the impossibility of a “no” makes consent also impossible.

Comment #21: jadehawk  on  04/07  at  09:42 PM

I agree, Jadehawk.

Comment #22: reverie  on  04/07  at  09:48 PM

The whole “less-than-human” thing doesn’t fly either. The law and virtually all schools of moral philosophy are pretty damn clear that animals can’t consent to sex with humans either, and that involving them in same is wrong. And yeah, his thesis does seem to suggest that raping someone under amnestic sedation (all the drugs that prevent longterm memory formation) could be OK as long as they don’t find out from other sources than their own memories. And logically speaking, raping infants or toddlers under the age of 18 months or so (because evidence shows detailed memories generally don’t persist till adulthood) would fall outside his category of “a lucid, vulnerable child” (for whom he just happens to use the generic “he”).

There are some tough issues surrounding people whose sexual desires don’t end with the onset of dementia. But knowing abuse by mentally competent younger people just isn’t one of them.

Comment #23: paul  on  04/07  at  10:02 PM

That poor woman, recoiling at the sight of her rapist, and Bering just shrugging off the repeated attacks on such a vulnerable and dependent person.

Comment #24: ginmar  on  04/07  at  10:03 PM

Bering is one of the worst offenders, as are evo-psych choads in general, but quite a bit of arrant garbage passes for “psychology” in popular media today. Here’s another example. I think it’s just one more symptom of a mass media that has given up any pretense of informing/educating and is simply trolling for eyeballs because that’s what brings in advertiser revenue.

Comment #25: Nobody in Particular  on  04/07  at  10:13 PM

bering is a one-person-justification for the continued judicious use of the word “creep”, howling from the menz brigade about how “mean” the word is notwithstanding.

It is not “mean” if it is true and it surely is true and appropriate in this case.

Comment #26: DrDick  on  04/07  at  10:18 PM

Andrew Sullivan is a psychologist now?

Comment #27: bay of arizona  on  04/07  at  11:55 PM

Another element of Bering’s sociopathy:  the implication that the primary (or only) harm caused to a teenager through rape is pregnancy.

Harm to the teenager? Don’t be ridiculous. If she gets pregnant obviously the harm would be to her rapist. He might have to pay child support!

Comment #28: kristin  on  04/08  at  12:57 AM

Paul, Bering is fascinated by the idea that it’s /less wrong/ to rape a 98-year-old woman with dementia than it would be to rape any other person. I.e., he’s musing that the usual human standards don’t apply. Which is doubly weird because he acknowledges that the victim recoiled from her rapist in terror every time he walked into the room. So, it’s safe to assume that she did remember that he was doing something terrible to her, even if she didn’t have the words to express what it was.

Bringing up animals in this context is just weird.

Comment #29: Lindsay Beyerstein  on  04/08  at  01:27 AM

Slate is awfully Slateish today.

Comment #30: witless chum  on  04/08  at  01:47 AM

Lindsay, I think the point Paul was trying to make is that Bering wasn’t simply treating her like a sub-human, since we treat animal abuse more seriously than he seems to treat the rape of this woman.


except that this is a common thing. the category “subhuman” generally scores below many animals. Even the Nazis were nice to their pets.

Comment #31: jadehawk  on  04/08  at  03:59 AM

The subject of gerontophilia came up in the UK recently when a man who had sexually assaulted and raped literally hundreds of elderly women was finally convicted (he’d been doing it for years and years and the police had to apologise for missing the chance to catch him some 10 years ago).

One of the biggest obsessions of the media in all of this was why he targeted elderly victims, with wild speculation that he must therefore have been a gerontophile.  My personal response was that that may well be (not that I or the newspapers had any reason to know), but there’s a big difference between finding elderly people sexually attractive (and wouldn’t the term “gerontophile” have to be applied to people who were themselves elderly and attracted to people their own age?) and sexually assaulting and raping them when they were at their most vulnerable and afraid (he committed these acts whilst he was also burgling their houses, having cut off power to the lights and telephone).

It was if the media didn’t seem to want to talk about rape as an act of power over the vulnerable, but instead wanted to focus instead on a kink that they clearly found baffling and disgusting.  That made this a “special” case, y’see, and thus safely different from all the other rapes they report on where they can get away with less-than full sympathy for the victim(s).

Comment #32: Katherine  on  04/08  at  08:17 AM

“Andrew Sullivan is a psychologist now?”

...sure, along with being an economist (praising Ryan’s Let’s-Take-America-Back-120-Years budget), and a military strategist (very vocal support for invading Iraq and a virulent supporter of the war until it stunk on ice and then he relatively quietly pulled back and started criticizing the war).

If he painted too, Andrew Sullivan would be like a modern-day Leonardo da Vinci!...

Comment #33: MikeEss  on  04/08  at  09:38 AM

Gaah. Seriously, why does Slate still exist?

Comment #34: Steve LaBonne  on  04/08  at  09:39 AM

A number of sedation drugs (I was told it was fentanyl, but apparently that was a mistake; fentanyl is often combined with an amnestic drug called midazolam, which is the relevant one here) prevent the formation of new memories. They’re used during, for instance, a variety of endoscopy procedures. Unlike Bering’s example, people actually won’t remember anything that happens to them while on these drugs, and their use is quite common and considered fully ethical.

And yet it’s not considered ethical to rape people under sedation, even if they won’t remember it later. I wonder why this never occurred to Bering, or if he’d object if, say, I were to make a sock puppet out of him the next time he has a routine diagnostic procedure performed.

Comment #35: grendelkhan  on  04/08  at  10:25 AM

Rapists don’t rape because they can’t get the kind of sex they like. Rape is the kind of sex they like.

A perfect explanation, thanks for it.

The same can be applied to most of those who use sex workers.

Comment #36: oldfeminist  on  04/08  at  10:49 AM

The sparse scientific literature focuses exclusively on male gerontophiles like him; that could be because female gerontophiles don’t actually exist. Yet maybe, just maybe, we’ve all been a bit hasty in judging women like Anna Nichole Smith (who at 26 married wheelchair-bound, 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall) and Crystal Harris (24-year-old fiancée of a still-peppy, 84-year-old Hugh Hefner). Nah.


To further add to his credibility, Bering also tosses in that hilarious crack about the mere existence of people who marry for money being all the proof necessary to back up the claim that women aren’t gerontophiles, ever.  He clearly establishes two categories of women with gerontophiliac tendencies in this piece: either they don’t exist, or they’re after someone’s money, and therefore not actually affected by the sexual attraction.  Sooo this philia is not well understood, vastly understudied and supported by “sparse scientific literature”—but a hot young blonde possibly married an old man for his money once, so women clearly aren’t affected by this particular philia.  And then he drops it.  Pshaw, who needs to establish scientific credibility when there are amusing, cliche anecdotes available?

IMO, Bering’s pieces on Slate generally seem to include more than a few snarky to outright insulting “observations” about women, which he justifies with, “but I’m gay, so I can say that.”

Comment #37: Secret Agent Norman  on  04/08  at  11:02 AM

I can’t help noting the weaselly way he wrote this:

From a lawyer’s perspective, for example, Harold’s relationship with Maude was perfectly legal—grist for the gossip mill, but that’s about it. Humbert’s relationship with Lolita, by contrast, was a criminal affair.

He’s skating into “if a woman has sex with an underage person it’s okay howcome it’s not okay for me I mean some man to have sex with an underage girl or boy huh huh huh?” territory.  And he can easily deny it—that’s not technically what he said, but he’s making that implication.  Yet I would bet that’s the first thing the average reader would glean from that sentence out of context.

The real psychological difference, of course, is that Harold isn’t a child, and is an enthusiastic participant.

And yeah.  I’m older, and while I still find young men attractive, I am also attracted to men who have the gray or white hair, wrinkles and not-so-taut skin my contemporaries have.  Not in spite of it, but along with it.  It’s part of their bodies, and becoming part of mine.  Does that make me a gerontophile?

Comment #38: oldfeminist  on  04/08  at  11:33 AM

jadehawk: I wonder if the assigning of lower-than-low status to “subhumans” is in part about punishing them for looking and sometimes acting like real humans. It’s sometimes said that Nazis reserved particular fury for assimilated jews, who could “pass” as one of the less-suspect classes.

Comment #39: paul  on  04/08  at  12:41 PM

By his logic, what’s the point of caring for Alzheimer’s patients at all?  If they’ll have no memory of it, why not just bunk them in crowded dorms with just bread and water?

Comment #40: bananacat  on  04/08  at  04:13 PM

There is only one suitable response to this fellow that I can muster, and it is the sort of blank exasperatedly noncomprehending facial expression that someone would take a digital photo of and caption with WTF

(The W stands for Why.)

Comment #41: Salient  on  04/08  at  06:16 PM

Remember, women were considered to have diminished cognitive capacity in the 1950s and until recently, simply because it was possibly for men to have sex with them.  This seemed to imply that they lacked a subjectivity of their own.

Comment #42: scratchy888  on  04/08  at  08:17 PM

Wow- and the intriguing questions just never end:

Is it also a victimless crime for anyone to rape a person under anesthesia. It is more of a crime if they are younger?  What if it’s a man- is it less OK then?  Oh my, all these ideas that simply must be explored.  What if it was OK to have sex with people at certain times in their lives, and we didn’t know, so we respected their bodies, instead of getting sweet sexual release.  Oh, what a tragedy.

Seriously- what even prompts this line of thought? Besides, douchebaggery, of course.

Comment #43: drachonfire  on  04/09  at  04:45 PM

Uck! Just reading the last bracketed quotes completely had me out of body. Simply inhumane for him to even bring that up. My grandma has dementia and I cant imagine anyone sane or humane coming up with such a claim. He is clearly running a slippery slope there and though it makes it sound like he is inquiring in reality his sentencing and structure belie quite clearly that he has already made up his mind concerning that.

Comment #44: Bean Slap  on  04/09  at  09:28 PM

“the Loris-like gait of an aged spinster redolent with ancient perfume elicits in me”

Some of us old ladies are taking self-defense classes nowadays.  Hopefully, when he finally gives in to his impulse to grab an old “loris” it will be one who has had the lessons.

Comment #45: Older  on  04/10  at  04:00 PM

The only ethical problem comes with the sexual advances of patients or otherwise reality, chronologically, or whatever and won’t be able to recall or report consent, if it were given.

Of course, that isn’t what the article said.  Alas.

Comment #46: Crissa  on  04/13  at  01:29 AM
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