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Royalists want a little revolutionary action of their own

I’m sure everyone under the sun has seen this amusing commentary by David Schuster about the ridiculousness of the teabaggers.  And while I enjoyed every double and single entendre, I think I might have laughed the hardest when he pointed out that the fundamental difference between the teabaggers and the original Boston Tea Party is that the latter group was protesting taxation without representation, which is admittedly a long phrase with many syllables, so it’s no wonder the teabaggers zone out after they hear “tax”. 

But as fun as it is to laugh at these morons, the fact of the matter is that there’s more going on here than just a baffling explosion of people who are sick of the rich paying significantly lower taxes than they did under Reagan, and who want to rectify this problem by lowering their taxes and hopefully instituting wider wage slavery while they’re at it. Once you’ve whittled it down to the rich who want to pay fewer taxes and a few people that are like, “Yeah, I like being fucked over by the wealthy, especially when they’ve already ruined our economy!”, you don’t have much left, unless you pay people to show up at rallies. But as Roy Edroso says, there are actually people who aren’t rich, aren’t paid, and aren’t in an exceedingly masochistic minority who are actually going out to protest.  What’s up with that?

And if past events and present promotion are any indication, on April 15 what they’ll be hearing is that the President of the United States is a socialist and/or a communist who ignores the Constitution and must be resisted as a usurper with revolution. There’ll be complaints about high taxes, of course, but everyone complains about that. The main message is that Obama is an illegitimate leader, and that the folks holding the signs, notwithstanding the electoral results, are the true voice of America.

That’s the light bulb for me.  Protesting taxes (next: death) doesn’t make sense precisely because taxes are just part of life, and it’s not like Obama just invented the practice.  I’m watching a bunch of people on Twitter who are listing things that tax money buys, and while that’s a good reminder for the morons, I don’t think it’s all that helpful, because the tax thing is, like Roy said, more a cover for the extreme anger boiling about the election of Obama, who is illegitimate in their eyes for reasons that go way beyond taxes.  Observe some signs:

The references to the Boston Tea Party have a dual meaning.  Yes, the Tea Party was a protest against taxation (please stay awake for this next part!) without representation, emphasis on the latter.  “Without representation” was basically a way for Americans to push back against their status as a colony.  I’m sure that many people who supported the slogan would have been pacified, for a time, with representation, but let’s face it:  America was becoming it’s own nation, separate from Great Britain culturally and geographically.  If it wasn’t one thing, it would have been another, I suspect.  And regardless of the specific reasons for the Boston Tea Party, it’s that it was the first act of what became the American Revolution.  I submit to you that the people who put this together are obviously counting on the revolutionary connotations more than the specific taxation ones.

Perhaps I’m saying something too obvious, but it seems to me the real focus of the protest is the perceived illegitimacy of Obama and congressional Democrats’ power, and the revolutionary image is to remind people of the Americans who rejected the legitimacy of the king’s power.  Which is rich, of course, because the people who are flipping shit about Obama are basically royalists by nature, and they’re pitching a fit because the American dream laid down by our founders and improved upon throughout our history is turning out a little too nicely for their tastes.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 06:04 PM • (41) Comments

They are fuckers, plain and simple.

When they won (sort of) the elections, anyone who complained, even with legitimate reason, was called unAmerican and a traitor.  Now that they’ve lost the election, clearly and by a bunch, they are STILL calling the opposition unAmerican.

I do not believe they understand what the word means.

Just b/c your candidate lost does not mean you have been disenfranchised or are no longer represented.

Fox has been so good at rallying these whackadoodles up, that they really thought they were part of a forever majority.  To discover that the polls were right, that they are part of a small minority is upsetting them to no end.  It’s why Fox replays over and over these tiny protests.

Anti-war protests were 10 times as big, and IGNORED by Fox.  By covering these little astroturfs, they are trying to show the 29%ers that they area a force to be reckoned with…except they aren’t. 

They are a minority.  The majority is not buying it.  The majority likes their Black President—who btw can kill pirates that W was afraid to face.

They have nothing.  Taxes are going down, not up for 95% of the population.  A black man is in the Oval Office.  Whining reinforces the base, but it wins them no support.

Comment #1: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  04/15  at  06:46 PM

You’re right that the teabaggers (OMG it is so funny that they chose that name themselves and seem complete unaware of why everyone else is laughing at it) really are complaining about the legitimacy of Obama, actually all Democrats, to lead this country. The fact that Obama doesn’t have a WASPy surname, is the son of an immigrant, etc. is just the present lyrics to a song that’s been sung at least since the 1950s.
On a different note, the Tea Act and the Tea Party it spawned weren’t really about taxes at all. There weren’t any new duties and Americans had been paying the tea tax since 1770 with minimal complaint. The complaints about taxation were kind of a holdover from the previous decades protests (which were all about taxes). The Tea Act was designed to give the British East India Company a captive market by setting them up as the sole distributor for tea in the Americas. In other words, colonial merchants were asked to curl up and die for the sake of a big corporation, sort of the Walmart of its day but with a nastier corporate army, from the Mother Country. (http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/teaact.htm) Which makes the GOP and corporate worshippers admiration for that protest all the more ironic.

Comment #2: histro-geek  on  04/15  at  06:50 PM

Perhaps I’m saying something too obvious, but it seems to me the real focus of the protest is the perceived illegitimacy of Obama and congressional Democrats’ power, and the revolutionary image is to remind people of the Americans who rejected the legitimacy of the king’s power

I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Keep in mind that Freedomworks and their various proxies registered tea party domains last fall, long before election day. This astroturf movement was designed primarily as a protest against a Democratic President (any Democratic President), and the issue of government spending and/or taxation is almost beside the point (except insofar as Democrat = “tax-and-spend” to the Know-Nothing clowns who turned out today on behalf of the billionaire Koch family).

American right-wing authoritarians by definition see Presidents as absolute monarchs, to be worshipped (if they’re Republican) or feared (if they’re Dems). Their definition of “legitimacy” is different than ours, and is akin to the medieval concept involving pretenders and bastard children—which goes a long way toward explaining the birth certificate obsession.

For 25 years, GOP Presidents have happily played to the Know-Nothings’ peasant mentality to one degree or another. Tip O’Neil summed it up nicely when, asked about Reagan’s legacy, said: “well, he would’ve made a heckuva king.”

Comment #3: Gracchus.  on  04/15  at  06:50 PM

America was becoming it’s own nation, separate from Great Britain culturally and geographically.  If it wasn’t one thing, it would have been another, I suspect.

Absolutely, and there were people in London (including in Parliament) who realised that you couldn’t sustain the necessary combination of autonomy and loyalty to sustain colonial government. I had this discussion with an NPS ranger at the Liberty Bell a few years ago, on how even satisfying the demand for “representation” within the existing system of British government would have soon transformed those representatives into distant absentee government agents.

(Canada’s constitutional self-government came a century later, in an era of train travel, iron steamships and the transatlantic telegraph.)

Matt Taibbi and his former colleagues at the eXiled have it right about the “peasant mentality” at work:

whatever the Tea Party organizers scream today while standing on tea boxes, their sponsors at FreedomWorks have no intention of ending the plunder.

Instead, FreedomWorks and its clients want to ensure more of the national wealth is at their disposal — which for them means more deregulation, lower taxes for the rich, fewer government programs for distressed homeowners and no pricey national health insurance.

The suckers in the Tea Party movement have no idea that while their anger is genuine, they’re doing the king’s bidding, not their own.

They’ve seen how it works in Russia.

Comment #4: pseudonymous in nc  on  04/15  at  06:55 PM

In other words, colonial merchants were asked to curl up and die for the sake of a big corporation

For “merchants”, you could also read “smugglers”. John Hancock = tax-dodging, tea smuggling tycoon. Not that I’m disputing your characterisation of the monopolistic proto-imperial behemoth that was the EIC, but the original Tea Partyists were, like Dick Armey, thinking of their own bottom line.

Comment #5: pseudonymous in nc  on  04/15  at  07:00 PM

Well, the revolutionaries were a small minority.  The overwhelming majority of American colonists were loyalists or simply didn’t give a shit one way or another.

Histro-geek is correct.  The real bugaboo for our founders was mercantilism—the mother country controlling and managing the colonies’ economy.  The founders wanted capitalism, and they weren’t wrong for wanting it.  Portugal maintained mercantilism in its colonies until it finally lost those colonies.  Former Portuguese colonies in Africa are much, much worse off economically than other African countries.  Mercantilism is a raw deal for a colony and really isn’t so great for the home country either.

Comment #6: keshmeshi  on  04/15  at  07:01 PM

Tea Parties seem pretty popular on Stormfront, the online hangout place for ACTUAL fascists, so this whole Obama=Fascist thing is especially laughable, since they’re the ones drawing actual honest-to-goodness Nazis to their events.

Comment #7: HonestB  on  04/15  at  07:03 PM

you don’t have to be a racist conservative (although those morons with signs definitely seem to qualify)  to critique our government that takes a large chunk of your income to kill people overseas and also hands it out to its rich friends and very ineffectively administers social programs-democrats AND republicans.

also just came across this:
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/4274

Comment #8: martha  on  04/15  at  07:27 PM

Histro-geek is correct.  The real bugaboo for our founders was mercantilism—the mother country controlling and managing the colonies’ economy.  The founders wanted capitalism, and they weren’t wrong for wanting it.

Ironic that not long after independence, Britain became the number one champion of free trade, totally switching their policy!

Comment #9: Ben D.  on  04/15  at  07:28 PM

Absolute bottom line for many of these people (already in tizzy shit about democrat socialist-fascists):

HE’S BLACK. BLACK, BLACK, BLACK, and with a MUSLIM name to boot.

Their signs all but shout it.

Comment #10: Kathy  on  04/15  at  07:29 PM

It’s true, martha, that you don’t have to be a racist conservative to enjoy rainbows and ice cream, but it has nothing to do with the point of the post.  But your attempts at jacking are appreciated.

Comment #11: Amanda Marcotte  on  04/15  at  07:31 PM

These people are just suckers. I (almost) feel sorry for them.

Comment #12: Mark  on  04/15  at  07:32 PM

I think it does have to do with the point of your post actually, which was that the protests MUST be about something besides taxes, and by showing those racist conservatives with those signs you are clearly making the point that these are the only people who think this way, and so they just be dismissed entirely because really they are just upset about Obama.

Comment #13: martha  on  04/15  at  07:41 PM

Concern troll is very concerned.

Comment #14: Ben D.  on  04/15  at  07:50 PM

The teabaggers aren’t making that critique, martha.  What they’re throwing is explicitly a tax protest.  They’re protesting their taxes being raised.  Even though their taxes have been lowered.

I don’t doubt that most of these protesters are perfectly fine with spending money to kill people overseas and perfectly fine with massive corporate handouts, as long as a Republican is there to tell them that doing so will make Democrats mad.

You’re talking about something else entirely.

Comment #15: Jrod  on  04/15  at  07:51 PM

martha: The protests must be about something besides taxes because during the Obama Administration, the only thing that’s happened to taxes for the vast majority of the people involved in the protests is that they’ve gotten a tax cut. So there are two possible explanations, either they’re upset about something other than taxes, or they’re terminally stupid and have been manipulated by the rich proponents of their protests into believing that their taxes must have been raised because a Democrat is in office.

Which explanation do you prefer?

Comment #16: Redshift  on  04/15  at  07:52 PM

well according to cnn, it’s also about the bailouts, which started before obama:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/15/tea.parties/

which i believe amanda herself has criticized related to the mortgage crisis. (if that’s wrong I sincerely apologize)

jrod: there are also pacifist tax resisters, although I don’t know if any of them were at the protests.

and just for the record, I vote progressive democrat and have voted green a few times in the past, before I get called part of the black helicopter set.

Comment #17: martha  on  04/15  at  08:07 PM

I am very glad that they keep talking like this.

Someday soon, maybe, they’ll finally hear themselves.

Comment #18: HavePatience  on  04/15  at  08:25 PM

well according to cnn, it’s also about the bailouts, which started before obama:

Which would be more convincing if the institutional GOP elements promoting and organizing the protests weren’t corporate shills and beneficiaries of the highest order, who just happen to be good at keeping their own hands clean while the peasants do the dirty work.

To repeat my earlier quote, “their sponsors at FreedomWorks have no intention of ending the plunder.”

Comment #19: pseudonymous in nc  on  04/15  at  08:28 PM

well according to cnn, it’s also about the bailouts, which started before obama:

Which is why it makes perfect sense for them to blame Obama for the bailouts and hold rallies specifically against him.  After all, if the bailouts started before Obama was elected, then he ... I mean, it’s clear that ... uh ....

I’m very angry about my taxes!  Very angry!  And it’s all Obama’s fault!

Comment #20: Mnemosyne  on  04/15  at  08:32 PM

I’m still quite impressed their signs were not just their crap smeared on paper, but that they could recite the lines that their favorite radio show host or stormfront news flash had given them to protest with.

Comment #21: Textual Chocolate  on  04/15  at  08:47 PM

well according to cnn, it’s also about the bailouts, which started before obama:

As did the registration of those domain names by Freedomworks and its friends and beneficiaries—domains which lay fallow for months of bailouts and corporate welfare until after Obama was elected and until after he suggested the bailout be extended to human entities as well as corporate ones.

Odd, no?

Really, instead of depending on CNN for your news, try reading the Exiled article Pseudonymous in NC linked above. It may be an on-line-only news startup with attitude and naughty words, but I’ve seen more investigative journalism there than on CNN about this subject. Then read its two predecessor articles, which broke the story weeks ago (with no MSM support beyond a Playboy on-line post) when Santelli first started crying. Than ask yourself why you’re defending a bunch of complacent serfs who’ve been tricked by their masters into decrying the “road to serfdom.”

Either that, or move to your next step: whingeing about how the meanies in this thread have convinced you to reconsider your status as a lifelong Democrat.

[Also, thanks to PinNC for the Taibbi article—hadn’t seen that one]

Comment #22: Gracchus.  on  04/15  at  09:24 PM

“I’m still quite impressed their signs were not just their crap smeared on paper, but that they could recite the lines that their favorite radio show host or stormfront news flash had given them to protest with.”

...and some people say wingnuts can’t evolve.  They so can!...

Comment #23: MikeEss  on  04/15  at  09:26 PM

Thanks, Gracchus: Taibbi worked in Moscow alongside Mark Ames at the eXile for quite a while in the late 90s, as the oligarchs were taking over over Russia and the overall standard of living plummetted—life expectancy dropped by about ten years there during the 90s.

They understand the ease with which oligarchs can manipulate people, because they’ve seen it, albeit in a rawer form, in Russia. There’s a long-standing pattern of wingnut welfare organizations—501(c)(3) and (c)(4) orgs—being created, left dormant, and revived when the opportunity is right by funding by the usual foundations (in this case, the Kochs, fnar fnar) and then wind down or become dormant again. It’s an impressively-run thing.

Comment #24: pseudonymous in nc  on  04/15  at  09:35 PM

I submit to you that the people who put this together are obviously counting on the revolutionary connotations more than the specific taxation ones.

Absolutely.  I like Phila’s term for it, “wingnut proceduralism”.  Things like “show us your birth certificate,” etc., that they basically know are ludicrous nonsense that will go deservedly unanswered, but that they feel like they have to go through the motions of so they can say, “well, we gave him a chance,” and, more in sorrow than in anger, openly declare that violence is justified.

Comment #25: smadin  on  04/15  at  09:39 PM

By the way, WTF is up with Rick Perry and why is he insisting that Texas is totally going to secede, like, once they get their driver’s license and don’t have to sit around the house listening to your rules anymore!

Comment #26: Mnemosyne  on  04/15  at  09:42 PM

well according to cnn, it’s also about the bailouts, which started before obama.

Which would be more convincing if the institutional GOP elements promoting and organizing the protests weren’t corporate shills and beneficiaries of the highest order, who just happen to be good at keeping their own hands clean while the peasants do the dirty work.

It would also be more convincing if they hadn’t waited until after January 20, 2009 to publicly express their tremendous “outrage” about the bailouts.

But of course, since Glenn Beck got in his ‘bipartisan’ line today by saying, “It’s not just about Obama, we’re mad about Bush approving the bailouts, too!!!  I promise!!!  Pinky swear!!!!  I’m outraged at Bush!  Look at me being outraged!!!”

Right, Glenn.  You are so outraged at Bush that you conveniently waited until three months after he left the White House and moved into some racist subdivision in Dallas to express your extreme outrage at him.

Comment #27: DTG in STL  on  04/15  at  09:59 PM

Alright this is just silly, and much as I would like to claim this as my own, I was at DKos and just saw the greatest possible name for today’s events that anybody could ever conceive:

Balls-in-mouthapalooza 2009

Gorgeous.

Comment #28: DTG in STL  on  04/15  at  10:09 PM

Which explanation do you prefer?

I thought this was a ‘both/and’ blog, Redshift.  They’re both upset about something other than taxes and manipulated by the rich to benefit the rich.

Comment #29: stogoe  on  04/15  at  10:30 PM

Am I the only one who’s shaking my head at the irony of a white protester quoting Homey the Clown?

Comment #30: Ellid  on  04/15  at  11:03 PM

“Am I the only one who’s shaking my head at the irony of a white protester quoting Homey the Clown?”

That just shows how hep they are to the crazy lingo the kids use these days…

Comment #31: MikeEss  on  04/15  at  11:23 PM

Everyone should read this:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-weird-contradictions_b_176476.html

The Boston Tea Party way back in 1773 was a response to a TAX CUT, not a tax increase.  Fun stuff.

Comment #32: Reece  on  04/15  at  11:44 PM

The guy holding the sign in the first photo has a good t-shirt: “Stupidity Offsets For Sale”.

Comment #33: NancyP  on  04/16  at  12:06 AM

The guy holding the sign in the first photo has a good t-shirt: “Stupidity Offsets For Sale”.

He’s apparently got a surplus.

Comment #34: jTuba  on  04/16  at  12:23 AM

If it weren’t for the fact that the wingnuts were silent when Bush was busily expanding executive power and granting himself the powers of a dictator, I can understand the sentiment that there’s way too much power concentrated in the position of US president.

But given that they were silent while Bush created a police state, it is a little difficult to see all this wingnut whining as anything other than a pathological hatred of Democrats, with a pretty large amount of racism and xenophobia thrown in.

It’s so odd to me that anyone other than the extremely wealthy could possibly believe that Republican economic policy benefits them in any way.

Comment #35: Berry, Queen of the Catties  on  04/16  at  01:57 AM

THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*pant pant*

sorry. tantrum over.

Amanda, i really liked the “next: death” joke - it *really* highlighted the absolute absurdity of this whole thing.

Comment #36: denelian  on  04/16  at  02:49 AM

</blockquote>you don’t have to be a racist conservative (although those morons with signs definitely seem to qualify) to critique our government that takes a large chunk of your income to kill people overseas and also hands it out to its rich friends and very ineffectively administers social programs-democrats AND republicans.</blockquote>

You’re absolutely right; you don’t have to be racist to critique George W. Bush who did all of those things long before Obama did.  You do have to be racist to whine about Obama doing things he didn’t actually do when you had no problems when a white president actually did these things.  Martha, you’re clearly racist and I’m calling you on it.

Comment #37: bananacat  on  04/16  at  09:05 AM

You didn’t post my favorite sign. The one that read “American Taxpayers will be the Jews for Obama’s Oven”. Offensive much?

Comment #38: AmandaPanda  on  04/16  at  12:52 PM

Tee hee… dick army!

I’m sorry, my inner junior-high student couldn’t pass that up. Ridicule is the only proper response to these clowns.

Comment #39: Jerry Vinokurov  on  04/16  at  05:03 PM

Liberals seem more willing to believe that a conservative could have been legitimately elected (even obvious joke candidates such as Ronald Reagan and Sonny Bono and Arnold Schwarzenegger) than conservatives are to believe a liberal was (even experienced politicians such as Bill Clinton and Hugo Chavez and Barack Obama)

Comment #40: Hershele Ostropoler  on  04/16  at  05:53 PM

“You’re absolutely right; you don’t have to be racist to critique George W. Bush who did all of those things long before Obama did.  You do have to be racist to whine about Obama doing things he didn’t actually do when you had no problems when a white president actually did these things.  Martha, you’re clearly racist and I’m calling you on it. “

sigh, there were actually conservatives upset about it during the bush administration as I recall…also this is not the first year these protests have happened I believe, there are actually people who are not fox news racists wingnuts (although they clearly got a lot press) who are genuinely upset about the bailouts/spending/taxes…..

but really I think the op-ed piece i linked to said it best:

“Likewise, I spoke to an organizer for the Knoxville tea party who said that no “professional politicians” were going to be allowed to speak, and he made a big point of saying that the protest wasn’t an anti-Obama protest, it was an anti-establishment protest. I’ve heard similar things from tea-party organizers in other cities, too. Though critics will probably try to write the tea parties off as partisan publicity stunts, they’re really a post-partisan expression of outrage.
This is a genuine grassroots phenomenom. Various facets of the GOP coalition and conservative movement are trying to leverage this movement, but the movement was there first”

but if you want to spend your time railing against idiotic fox news wingnuts and calling me a racist go ahead I suppose instead of holding our own party accountable and working for real progressive change…..

Comment #41: martha  on  04/16  at  11:30 PM
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