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Security theater jumps yet another shark

Yea, us!  American paranoia about terrorism—-which of course is mixed up with paranoia about difference—-has finally reached a new apex of stupidity.  Though of course there is room to grow even dumber with the security theater, but this one just has a certain resonance of moronic

A teenage airplane passenger using a Jewish prayer object caused a misunderstanding that led the captain to divert the Kentucky-bound plane to Philadelphia and prompted a visit from a bomb squad.

A 17-year-old boy on US Airways Express Flight 3079 traveling from New York to Louisville was using tefillin, a set of black boxes attached to leather straps and containing biblical passages, said Philadelphia police Lt. Frank Vanore.

Even if someone is sitting there praying to Allah that the plane go down, it actually won’t make the plane go down, you know.  In general, however, I think terrorists that would be smart enough to get a bomb on a plane would probably be smart enough not to get caught by going through elaborate prayers right in front of everyone else before setting the thing off.  Out of curiosity, since I had never heard of this custom before, I looked at some pictures of tefillin.  Here is what I discovered:

And this is what it looks like when worn:

Speaking as someone who has never seen this before, I can say my natural inclination is to think it’s a little weird-looking.  But not so weird-looking that I’d assume it was anything but a kooky but harmless religious practice, which is exactly what the kid in question told the flight staff when they asked him about it.  But was his sensible explanation accepted by the flight staff?  No, the “that’s weird!” hysteria kicked in and it was off to Philadelphia for an entire plane of people in no danger whatsoever, except of missing important meetings or dinner.

Here’s the thing: I see people doing kooky religious stuff on planes all the time.  They just do it while wielding a cross and a Bible, instead of little boxes.  I see women dressed in obnoxiously “modest” clothing, but since it’s made out of gingham and other faux “Little House on the Prairie” materials, they register as Christians, and no one looks at them sideways.  If the kid thought that this was a country where open observance of religious practice by private people was tolerated in public, that’s because it is, at least if you’re Christian.

As an atheist myself, I have an interest in this, and not just because I am an adamant supporter of religious freedom.  It’s also because I’m selfish—-I want to be able to read “The God Delusion” on a plane without having the FBI called because I’m being visibly non-Christian.  And as the prophet of the Church of the Mouse and the Disco Ball, I really don’t want to see planes getting rerouted towards the bomb squad because someone’s listening to Donna Summers on their iPod.  Doing stuff like this doesn’t do anything to stop terrorism, but it does send the message that America is an intolerant, bigoted country where simply being different in a public space can be treated like a national emergency. 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 06:44 PM • (115) Comments

Sounds like something right out of Harold & Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay.

We’re about two more incidents away from being forced to fly naked, or drive there instead…

Comment #1: MikeEss  on  01/21  at  07:21 PM

Judeo-Christian, my left butt cheek.

Comment #2: chingona  on  01/21  at  07:27 PM

If somebody got tossed off for praying to JESUS!!!! loudly, we’d surely hear all about how Osama Bin Obama had made the govmint evile!

Comment #3: Ms Kate  on  01/21  at  07:31 PM

really, you hadn’t seen these before? not even when they show footage of the wailing wall on the news? or do they not do that on american news?

Comment #4: sophiefair  on  01/21  at  07:35 PM

Well, it’s like you said, it isn’t any weirder than any other religious item, it’s just less common to see in the US.

Comment #5: bouj  on  01/21  at  07:38 PM

I was on a flight where someone (around 40 or 50) got up after the seatbelts light went off, and spent five or ten minutes unwinding and re-winding the leather straps, etc. Then he sat back down and prayed quietly. Maybe half the plane was staring in fascination at the guy the whole time. When I got home it was the first thing I looked up on wikipedia.

Comment #6: Rehmeyer  on  01/21  at  07:39 PM

We’re not supposed to examine stock video of “Jew” jews doing “jewish things” like pray at the Wailing Wall dontchaknow?

By that I mean that the visual language in US news media tends to reduce people to archetypes that play to a certain set of bigotries…You know, like all them negros in trouble and about to riot and loot commentaries that we saw with Katrina and now with Haiti.

Comment #7: shah8  on  01/21  at  07:40 PM

I can’t quite wrap my head around the idea that those people didn’t recognize tefillin (and I’m from the US). And WTF is with “Jewish Prayer Object”? If the idea of using the actual Hebrew word makes them feel icky, there’s a perfectly reasonable English translation: phylacteries. Surely even those people can use a dictionary.

And I agree that “Judeo-Christian” is just a lot of empty words.

Comment #8: JudithVictorious  on  01/21  at  07:43 PM

just for future reference, “tefillin” is plural. because it’s two sets of boxes with straps.

Comment #9: miriam beetle  on  01/21  at  07:44 PM

Well, I have never heard of it either, and my best friend is Jewish, ha, but for real.  Of course, she doesn’t really practice her religion, so.  The thing about planes is, a lot of people on them are freaked out.  I am one of those people.  I don’t really like people praying around me on planes, but it has nothing to do with my thinking they are terrorists.  But the worse thing is the people who are freaked out thinking it’s okay to yell out “what’s that noise” on a plane. This happened to me last year when I was flying to Seattle, and we were going down the runway at JFK.  Everyone just started looking around and getting a bit more freaked than they already were.  There are people who like to fly, and people who it really does not bother, but mostly, people are a bit nerved up. 

And I’m one of those, and I wanted to kill that woman.  I keep my shit to myself, because I understand it’s my problem.  If you are the kind who can’t do that, don’t get on my plane, becuase yelling out “what’s that noise!?” is a good way to get me to smash your face in.  And I am usually drunk when flying, it could happen. Absolutely.

Personally, I think that if you start loudly praying you are just asking for trouble, because you have people like me who are freaked out because of claustraphobia, but will probably not crack and will often have practiced ways to deal with it.  Then you have others freaked out over terrorism, and they may crack.  Those guys crack pretty much at the drop of a dime.

Comment #10: JennyLI  on  01/21  at  08:01 PM

I get that people might not recognize tefilin.  What I don’t get is the “zomg something unfamiliar IT MUST BE TERRORISM!” reaction, which seems to be so prevalent among Americans at this point. 

I’m sure, for instance, that I’m not the only one who heard about <a href =“http://gizmodo.com/5451518/11+year+olds-science-project-causes-bomb-scare-school-evacuation-hilarity”>the middle school student whose science fair project was deemed A Bomb.</a>

Or a couple years ago, when some harmless street art in Boston inspired the same hysteria. 

Maybe it’s just because I live in a big, scary city, but I see unfamiliar shit every day.  And my first reaction usually isn’t ZOMG TERRORISM!  It’s “my, that Hasid is wearing an impressive hat,” or “WTF kind of bike is that?!”  Seriously, today I saw a guy astride this gigantic eliptical bike vehicle type thing, and my first thought was I Want To Ride That, not “OMG CALL THE POLICE IT’S A TERRORIST!”

Comment #11: The Opoponax  on  01/21  at  08:02 PM

ugh stupid broken link:

here.

Comment #12: The Opoponax  on  01/21  at  08:04 PM

Judith,

In fairness, it’s general practice not to put a word or phrase in the first sentence or paragraph that will send people to the dictionary. Most people are equally ignorant as to the meaning of phylacteries. “Jewish prayer object” is a little awkward, but I don’t think it’s offensive. 

That said, when I first read this, I was really confused as to what “Jewish prayer object” might have caused alarm. I couldn’t think of anything pointy and sharp used in davening.

On the NYT’s blog entry on this, a lot of the commenters are saying he should have just prayed in the bathroom or not prayed publicly. First of all, praying in the bathroom is not an alternative, theologically. Two, taking a bag with you (if it’s not a women’s purse and you’re not a woman) into the bathroom and staying there a long time also is very suspicious. Third, I’ll buy that he should have kept it to himself the first time I see a story about a plane being diverted because someone was praying the rosary.

Comment #13: chingona  on  01/21  at  08:06 PM

...and my best friend is Jewish, ha, but for real.

Well, for what it’s worth, it’s a pretty rare practice.  It’s kind of like if your best friend was a lapsed Episcopalian and you’d never heard her talk about snake handling or plural marriage in connection with her faith.

Comment #14: The Opoponax  on  01/21  at  08:06 PM

“Seriously, today I saw a guy astride this gigantic eliptical bike vehicle type thing, and my first thought was I Want To Ride That, not “OMG CALL THE POLICE IT’S A TERRORIST!””

... apparently in America™ v2, you’re not much of an American.  If you stood there and soiled yourself, then called the police, then you’d be okay…

Comment #15: MikeEss  on  01/21  at  08:06 PM

I’m sure I’ve seen it in marginal ways, on TV or something, but not in person, no.  I just haven’t. It’s not a judgment either way, and I thought I could bring to bear my own inexperience to point out that even having no prior experience with this custom still doesn’t mean that you can just freak out.  My point was that having an open-minded, tolerant approach to new shit that you haven’t seen before is not only the morally upright thing to do, but it’s also a good way to avoid a lot of pointless heartache.

Comment #16: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:07 PM

Which isn’t to say that tefillin are weird in the way that we think of those two Christian phenomena.  They’re just not a universal thing, at all.  It’s not like your secular-humanist Jewish BFF is going to answer the door in them.

Comment #17: The Opoponax  on  01/21  at  08:08 PM

I live in one of the whitest, most christianist small cities in the US, and I know what tefillin are and what they’re used for. Why is my country so dumb?

As I will never be able to afford a plane ticket again in my life, I’m all for the fly naked proposal. Y’all stay safe, if goosebumpy.

Comment #18: brettvk  on  01/21  at  08:08 PM

We’re not supposed to examine stock video of “Jew” jews doing “jewish things” like pray at the Wailing Wall dontchaknow?

I’ll confess to zoning out 99% of stock footage of anyone doing anything.  Most stock footage has no relationship to the subject at hand, if you examine it closely at all.

Comment #19: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:09 PM

“a misunderstanding that led the captain to divert the Kentucky-bound plane to Philadelphia and prompted a visit from a bomb squad.”

This “Captain” (“Did I miss some military swearing in ceremony? He’s a fucking pilot & he should be happy w/that” - George Carlin) is clearly a god damn idiot and should be fired and/or immediatley transferred to a food service position.

Comment #20: Mark  on  01/21  at  08:09 PM

Thanks, miriam!  Fixed it.

Comment #21: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:10 PM

The use of phylacteries (or tefillin, if you prefer) is not that common among non-Orthodox Jews. It’s very rare to see them outside of a prayer service at all.

Comment #22: Jerry Vinokurov  on  01/21  at  08:11 PM

Anyone who watched season 2 of ROME on HBO has seen one of these.

Comment #23: Swedgin  on  01/21  at  08:12 PM

The use of tefillin is a little unusual, I suppose, but Orthodox Jews fly on airplanes all the time. (Okay, six days out of seven.) An average American living outside of some urban areas might not recognize them. But I’d think someone in a flight crew would know what they were. That’s the part that surprised me.

Comment #24: catfood  on  01/21  at  08:12 PM

To add to chin’s comment @13, he was praying with his sister, so going to the bathroom was really not an option.

Comment #25: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:13 PM

It doesn’t matter if someone is sophisticated enough to recognize them, which was my point. It still should not cause alarm.  I wouldn’t know what they are, and I’d still be like, “Well, clearly it’s some religious object used in prayer and none of my business, really.”  But even if you’re feeling a little angsty, and you see someone with these boxes you’ve never seen before, asking them and getting an honest answer should be the end of it.

Comment #26: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:17 PM

I’ve heard the term “phylactery”, but I’ve never seen one.

Comment #27: Linnaeus  on  01/21  at  08:18 PM

I knew about them, but called them phylacteries. Tefillin would have had be scratching my head…the name, not the object. Had I see the object, I would have known what they were for.

Comment #28: PixelFish  on  01/21  at  08:18 PM

Not living where there are a lot of Orthodox, I probably see more Orthodox Jews at airports and on airplanes than I do anywhere else in my daily life. And this flight crew, presumably, has flown out of New York before.

But it goes beyond not having seen tefillin before, which is understandable. Lots of Orthodox Jews, particularly more modern Orthodox, try to avoid really obvious displays in public, with men often wearing baseball hats over their yarmulkes, etc. Remember a few years back when a group of Muslims were prevented from boarding a plane after being seen praying together in the boarding area? How many church groups hold prayer circles in the boarding area every day with no one blinking an eye? Sure, maybe rolling their eyes, but not alerting security.

Comment #29: chingona  on  01/21  at  08:23 PM

Personally, I had not heard of tefillin until Boing Boing posted about Tefillin Barbie a few years ago.  I was glad I’d seen that when I later encountered a young orthodox Jew on the BART praying, because it did look weird and I can totally understand why someone who was unacquainted with the practice would find it worrisome.  Thinking it was related to terrorism seems like a stretch, though.

As for the flight crew, an acquaintance on another forum claims that information about orthodox Jewish prayer practices, including tefillin, is included in the TSA training for TSA and airline employees.  Someone wasn’t up on their training, or didn’t pay attention, or something.  I think they owe the kids an apology.

Comment #30: marijane  on  01/21  at  08:24 PM

Or what Amanda said @ 26.

Comment #31: chingona  on  01/21  at  08:24 PM

They owe the kids and everyone else on the plane whose day they ruined a refund.

Comment #32: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  08:26 PM

  It’s “my, that Hasid is wearing an impressive hat,”

I did one of these just the past weekend.  Passed a hearse on the Ryan with “Cooney” written on it.  The man driving had a large, wide-brimmed Hasidic-type hat.  But no beard.

So…Irish semi-ultra-Orthodox Jew?  My.  What IS he?  Did clueless Paddy just like the hat?  Are the Orthodox outsourcing funereal services?

We didn’t call Homeland Security, so obviously we are horrible excuses for Americans.

Comment #33: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  01/21  at  08:35 PM

@ Chingona, yes, and didn’t Sarah start calling them “The Flying Imans”?  I think it was them she was referring to.  I remember LOL because she’s such an idiot.

Comment #34: JennyLI  on  01/21  at  08:39 PM

Last time I flew cross-country (LA—to-NY), before we had pushed back, a Hasidic/orthodox guy, about 30-40 years old, in full regalia, stood at the rear of the plane and started praying. He wasn’t “praying out loud” per se (i.e. no vocalization), but he was rocking back and forth while reading from what I presume was the Torah and mouthing the words. He had on on of those tefillins.  It didn’t phase me at all, but I remember thinking at the time that it could really freak out any fundie/teabaggers who might be on the aircraft. Apparently no one complained, because he wrapped it up after about 5 minutes and returned to his family 5-or-10 rows up from where he stood.  We took off and flew without any problems…thank Gawd!!!

Comment #35: Hornet  on  01/21  at  08:57 PM

At the end of the day I agree it shouldn’t have caused a freakout, but a couple points worth making:

One report I saw said that the kid was uncommunicative with crew or couldn’t give a clear answer. He was probably davening (type of prayer) which would mean he actually couldn’t respond to anyone around him without violating ritual. Given that people have just watched him wrap something around his arm, put on a middle-eastern-ish-looking shawl, strap something to his head, and start bowing and muttering under his breath, I do kind of understand why it’s then disconcerting if he then won’t respond to crew asking questions. By the time he was done and could perhaps have been more responsive, the decision to divert might already have been made.

You also have to remember: some of these Orthodox kids are seriously unsocialized and unable to function well in the secular world. There’s whole organizations (Footsteps) dedicated to helping people who leave an ultra-Orthodox lifestyle adjust to life outside that community. If the kid was from one of the big hasidic communities in Rockland County, which is quite near the White Plains airport (departure airport), it’s quite likely that he had absolutely no idea what was being telegraphed or how to easily and quickly avoid it.  That is, even after he finished if the stew said, what are you doing and he said, laying tefillin (which is how he would phrase it, and which of course tells her nothing), or - which is possible - he just kind of ignored her because she’s a Gentile woman and he was severely uncomfortable with having to interact with her or in any way deal with her as an authority figure…you can understand why the stew reacted badly. 

Your analogy of “praynig to Allah that the plane will go down won’t make it go down” doesn’t quite hold because that involves no unfamiliar paraphernalia. It’s a stretch that someone might think the straps were wires or the little box an explosive…but at the same time, I get it, particularly when the guy is nonresponsive; crew presumably has procedures for what to do when there’s a suspected security issue with someone who’s not responding to their authority.  (Hell, someone got pulled off a flight I took Monday b/c he was pissy at being forced to change seats and then gave a stew the finger.) And once the wheels are put in motion they probably can’t/don’t reverse the decision.

But as I said at the beginning: this shouldn’t have caused a freakout. The stew should’ve had training to know an Orthodox Jew. Or as you say, she should’ve been able to figure it out based on whatever the kid did tell her. Not really any way to know exactly what was done or said or not said. Just surprising that nobody on a plane out of White Plains didn’t know a Jew wearing tefillin on sight to help explain.

Comment #36: ezedawg  on  01/21  at  08:57 PM

The reports I read were that the kid and his sister were cooperative and immediately explained what they were doing.

Comment #37: chingona  on  01/21  at  09:09 PM

“The reports I read were that the kid and his sister were cooperative and immediately explained what they were doing.”

...which, to the kind of mind that freaked to begin with, is just more proof of how truly evil their plans were…

Comment #38: MikeEss  on  01/21  at  09:12 PM

Sorry, eze, like chin said, the kids were straightforward and cooperative.

Comment #39: Amanda Marcotte  on  01/21  at  09:12 PM

Oh THAT’S what those are called!
You learn something new every day.

Comment #40: Danica Lefse Queen  on  01/21  at  09:34 PM

Sorry, but the bathroom?

Have these people been ON a plane? They’re seriously suggesting this kid tie up the bathroom that long?
And now that we can’t go to the bathroom during the last part of the flight, bathroom time is even more precious.

Comment #41: Lymis  on  01/21  at  09:34 PM

Folks who played D&D;(or, at least, the original AD&D;variation) might remember that the Dungeon Master’s Guide listed a few magical phylacteries as miscellaneous magical objects (Phylacteries of Faithfulness, maybe Phylacteries of Concentration or something).  They were for clerics.

So, even if you’re not Jewish, you might know what they are, as long as you’re a gamer geek.

Comment #42: Pesto  on  01/21  at  11:09 PM

Oh, and, “There’s muthafuckin tefillin!  On the muthafuckin’ plane!!”

Comment #43: Pesto  on  01/21  at  11:11 PM

The linked story said that the officials claim the kid did not give “a clear response” when questioned by the flight crew.  I have no idea what that means, but I suppose it’s possible that he used some terminology unknown to the flight crew. 

It’s impossible to know what all the circumstances may have been—but it does seem to come down to a fear of difference combined with a training failure.

Comment #44: Laurie  on  01/21  at  11:37 PM

I like the quote in the MSNBC article where the FBI agents say something like “They were actually more alarmed than we were.” IT kind of sums up the absurdity of the whole situation.

Comment #45: t-ster  on  01/21  at  11:40 PM

If I am ever again on a plain, I’m taking a baggie of cooked spaghetti with me, pulling it out at takeoff, wrapping it around my head and arms - with a meatball over my forehead and silently chanting Prego, Prego, prego.  And if they divert - United will be paying for my vacations for a lifetime after the suit.

Comment #46: phylosopher  on  01/21  at  11:58 PM

That was PLANE, sorry.

Comment #47: phylosopher  on  01/21  at  11:59 PM

Folks who played D&D;(or, at least, the original AD&D;variation) might remember that the Dungeon Master’s Guide listed a few magical phylacteries as miscellaneous magical objects (Phylacteries of Faithfulness, maybe Phylacteries of Concentration or something).  They were for clerics.

That is, in fact, where I first heard of the term.

Comment #48: Linnaeus  on  01/22  at  12:01 AM

Folks who played D&D;(or, at least, the original AD&D;variation) might remember that the Dungeon Master’s Guide listed a few magical phylacteries as miscellaneous magical objects (Phylacteries of Faithfulness, maybe Phylacteries of Concentration or something).  They were for clerics.

I first thought of Dragon Age, where they’re vials of mages’ blood that function as a sort of metaphorical leash (they allow mages who try to escape to be hunted more easily)...

Comment #49: Devonian  on  01/22  at  12:16 AM

Alright, here goes:  since I’m now in a room where my copy of the AD&D;Dungeon Masters Guide is handy, here are the 3 magical items in question (pp 151-2):

Phylactery of Faithfulness: the cleric wearing the phylactery will “be aware of any action or item which will adversely affect his alignment or his standing with his deity prior to performing the action or becoming associated with the item.”  Sounds like the kind of thing we might want a few Dems in Washington to wear 24/7 if you ask me…

Phylactery of Long Years:  slows the aging process.

Phylactery of Monstrous Attention: “draws the attention of supernatural creatures of exactly the opposite alignment of the cleric wearing it.  This results in the cleric being plagued by powerful and hostile creatures whenever he or she is in an area where such creatures are or can appear.”

No comment.

Comment #50: Pesto  on  01/22  at  12:33 AM

Tefillin are not all that uncommon among Conservative Jews, either.  Among older men of that sect, it is fairly common.  Go to a minyan at a Conservative Synagogue sometime, I bet you’ll see some there.  I certainly used to.

Phylactery is an entirely new word to me.  I never even thought about there being a word in English for them.

Comment #51: Jake Squid  on  01/22  at  12:46 AM

Folks who played D&D;(or, at least, the original AD&D;variation) might remember that the Dungeon Master’s Guide listed a few magical phylacteries as miscellaneous magical objects (Phylacteries of Faithfulness, maybe Phylacteries of Concentration or something).  They were for clerics.

So, even if you’re not Jewish, you might know what they are, as long as you’re a gamer geek.

Actually, that would have just made me more confused. I would be wondering where some Jewish kid got magical soul containers from. And whether they’re willing to share.

(OTOH, I do know what tefllim are, or at least recognize the practice. I know I read about it somewhere a long time ago)

Comment #52: truth is life  on  01/22  at  12:52 AM

World of Warcraft has them, too.  They contain a lich’s soul and allow the lich to regenerate itself when killed, if the phylactery remains intact.

Comment #53: A Canadian Girl  on  01/22  at  12:56 AM

World of Warcraft has them, too.  They contain a lich’s soul and allow the lich to regenerate itself when killed, if the phylactery remains intact.

Yeah, this is the only context where I’m familiar with the word “phylactery”.  Heh.  I don’t think having the tefellin described that way would be very helpful for me.

And I guess I’m a terrible backwater rube, because I’d never heard of or seen one of these things before today, to my knowledge.

Comment #54: Denise  on  01/22  at  02:04 AM

Look, I know that the flight crew isn’t likely to have wireless Internet up there in the sky, but couldn’t they ask someone at Air Traffic Control “Hey, could you google “t-e-f-e-l-l-i-n” for me?  Some guy up here says that’s what he’s wearing.  Does it look like a little box you strap on your head?  Cool, I just wanted to make sure it was legit.  Thanks, bye.”

Seriously.  UTFG.

Comment #55: Maureen  on  01/22  at  02:23 AM

If I am ever again on a plain, I’m taking a baggie of cooked spaghetti with me, pulling it out at takeoff, wrapping it around my head and arms - with a meatball over my forehead and silently chanting Prego, Prego, prego.

Which, funnily enough, is Italian for “I pray.” :D

Comment #56: Rebecca  on  01/22  at  02:57 AM

Obviously none of the flight crew on that plane ever made a trip to Israel.  The typical America to Israel flight overlaps with morning prayer, when we typically do put on tefellin.  The flight attendants on El Al know that means to get breakfast read.

Comment #57: agolden  on  01/22  at  04:26 AM

Why does it even matter whether the crew recognized the stuff or not? How deadly could something possibly be that is HALF THE SIZE OF A PACK OF CIGARETTES?! I don’t care if they thought the guy was wrapping his arms in heavy-duty electrical cable or whatever. If terrorists can now bring down a plane with a teeny tiny box on a guy’s forehead, then they are unstoppable superhero warriors from the future and we’re just fucked already.

I fully expect that the next bogus terrorism scare will involve someone who was holding his thumb and pinky up in front of his face so that if he looked at people in the distance at just the right angle, he could crush their heads.

Comment #58: Hob  on  01/22  at  04:30 AM

Give me a break, Amanda. Extremists are crafting UNDERWEAR bombs these days! As if exploding shoes weren’t bad enough, now we need to worry about lethal jockstraps.

Given the preposterous cunning of today’s terrorists, it’s not unreasonable to be alarmed at a “device” comprised of small boxes and straps (from a distance, “wires”). To be frank, a phylactery bears more than a passing resemblance to a crude explosive device, at least as they are popularly portrayed.

The very act of flying induces serious anxiety in many people.  Combined with recent events and the general state of security affairs, and I fully understand the fears of the passengers, though perhaps not the following reaction of the captain, which does seem overkill (maybe not the right word. . .).

The Jewish passengers should probably have been more thoughtful and notified the crew in advance. That that’s necessary is awful, and as a civil libertarian it gives me chills, but we live in a sick and complex and confusing age that demands prudence. Especially in an airplane, one must be cautious, considerate, and mindful of folks’ not totally unjustified paranoia. (And, despite the probable overreaction, it’s nice to see a seriously vigilant crew.)

I don’t think this speaks to the bigotry, intolerance, or close-mindedness of Americans, just the confounding and rather surreal period in which we live, when shoes and undies are honest-to-God security threats.

Comment #59: Pandagon Conservative  on  01/22  at  04:33 AM

Just as a point of interest, tefillin are shown being used in the documentary “American Mythology”. The film is about Ari Lehman, who has latched on to being the “first” Jason in the Friday the 13th series as a way to promote his band.     

  Soooo….obviously the flight crew was worried they were dealing with a supernatural, undead serial killer who plays horror themed reggae.

Comment #60: PirateJenny  on  01/22  at  04:52 AM

This seems somehow relevant. A new Gallup poll shows that anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim attitudes tend to be linked.

Comment #61: chingona  on  01/22  at  05:08 AM

Conservative,

Keep in mind that the passenger was 17, and probably grew up in an environment where everyone he knew was not just Jewish but Orthodox. The idea that it might have confused, must less frightened, anyone probably never crossed his mind.

Comment #62: chingona  on  01/22  at  05:12 AM

None of this would have happened if he’d just converted to Christianity before the flight.

Comment #63: Jake  on  01/22  at  05:13 AM

“Keep in mind that the passenger was 17, and probably grew up in an environment where everyone he knew was not just Jewish but Orthodox. The idea that it might have confused, must less frightened, anyone probably never crossed his mind.”

Sure.  I’m not trying to damn or demonize the kid.  But if he wasn’t living under a rock, he should have known about the foiled Christmas plot, and acted with due consideration of the heightened state of alert.

Comment #64: Pandagon Conservative  on  01/22  at  05:36 AM

Go to a minyan at a Conservative Synagogue sometime, I bet you’ll see some there.

Go during the week, they’re not used on Sabbath.

I own a set.  Can’t remember the last time I whipped ‘em out, but they’re not the kind of things you just throw away.

Comment #65: Thlayli  on  01/22  at  07:07 AM

well, I’m all for religious tolerance, but if some fundies with an armload of rattlesnakes board a plane with me and start praying, I’ll be upset.

Comment #66: rea  on  01/22  at  08:55 AM

Since this incident has done so much for raising our awareness concerning Orthodox Jewish religious practices, I’d like to encourage fellow pagans to do something comparable at Imbolc, Groundhog day or thereabouts, but in a more traditional fashion - not lighting candles, no, the other fashion, what we do at every holiday, fucking. Traditional seatmate fleshmeld, way better than prayer.

Comment #67: bad Jim  on  01/22  at  09:00 AM

I wouldn’t expect the kid or his mentor to foresee the reaction he would cause by doing what for him is a very familiar, routine act.  In my practice as a lawyer, I have found that most people are incapable of understanding that they might be viewed by suspicion by others.  A person who knows he is innocent or telling the truth often simply cannot comprehend that others may have a different perception of him. People really have difficulty viewing themselves through other people’s eyes. 

That said, I am having more and more sympathy for those who freaked out at the sight of the tefellin—based on some of the comments on this site and also some of the pictures of tefellin I googled.  I can see why elaborately wrapping straps around your arms and hands could make people think of suicide bombs.  People unfamiliar with tefellin don’t generally think of people strapping devices to their bodies except in the context of suicide bombing.

I am inclined to chalk this up to a terrible misunderstanding that I hope I can be averted in the future.

Comment #68: Laurie  on  01/22  at  09:25 AM

Mark (and George Carlin), you do know most commercial pilots are ex-Air Force, right? Even today.

Phylacteries—well, maybe the problem is some AD & D players would think he was a lich? /geek
(Oh yes, I see other people brought up that they are also available as magic items)
That is where I and many others first heard the word, and then we looked it up to find out what it meant.

Otoh, I do have some sympathy for people being suspicious. Not because of religious ritual, but because of small cases with no immediately identifiable purpose. Explosives fit in small containers. But presuming he actually showed there was just a little book/scroll inside, I should hope people would calm down and let him be. (of course, paper *can* be explosive, but I’m not sure if such can be printed on, plus, the only kinds I know of are pretty weak and simply gimmicks for magic acts)

Comment #69: Samantha Vimes  on  01/22  at  09:34 AM

I got a kick out of the following humorous post on the incident by Rabbi Jason Miller, especially the list of other 10 other ways to pose a threat with Jewish items or practices (whipping passengers with the fringes of your tallis or putting the pilot to sleep with a long discourse on Jewish legal tradition)

http://www.jewishblogging.com/blog.php?bid=206550

Comment #70: Laurie  on  01/22  at  09:41 AM

This is second hand, but a friend of mine related an anecdote the other day of a fellow professor on a US flight who was confronted by the flight marshal—a passenger had complained because the prof was reading a “suspicious” book: Sexuality and Islam.

Even if the guy was reading the Koran…that is some hateful-ass paranoia right there.

Comment #71: Ranylt  on  01/22  at  10:12 AM

I regularly fly the NY to Florida route - often from White Plains (my local) - to visit family in West Palm Beach.  It’s pretty typical to see Orthodox and / or Hassidim (btw.. NOT the same thing) in full regalia on the flight. It’s also typical to see davening either just before or during the flight.

If I’m not mistaken, this flight orginated in White Plains - I’m pretty surprised that none of the passengers could have vouched for the kids since there is a sizable Orthodox community there and they are a common sight in the area.

Chalk it all up to the fact that the GWOT has made us all dumber than rocks.

Comment #72: David Parmet  on  01/22  at  10:13 AM

I used to pray the tefillin.  It isn’t so weird, just different.  The boxes contain passages from the Bible (not the Christian bible).  You bind those words to you with leather straps.  There’s a specific way in which you do the binding which is entirely symbolic.  You bind them on the left arm to be closer to the heart (or so I recall being taught many years ago…it’s been over 35 years since I prayed the tefillin).  You finish the one on the arm with some binding around the hand in the form of the first initial of the Jewish god’s name.  Oh, and if your Jewish female friends never mentioned them, it may be because women don’t pray the tefillin.  There’s a lot of separation of the sexes in Judaism.

The thing that gets me is, was this guy the only Jew on the plane?  On a flight out of New York?  I realize that the flying cocktail servers on the flight may have been based in Kentucky and ignorant of all things not Jeeeeezus, but there had to be some New Yorker on that plane besides the kid who had heard of tefillin before.  Ah, but then it’s a federal crime to interfere with a cocktail server in the performance of his or her ignorance, I suppose, so people were probably afraid to say something dangerous and subversive like, “Those are tefillin.  Jews use them to pray the daily prayer service and if they are Orthodox, they do that every day, so give the kid a break and get us to Kentucky on time.”  Probably wind up in a federal prison for saying something dangerous like that.

“Given the preposterous cunning of today’s terrorists, it’s not unreasonable to be alarmed at a “device” comprised of small boxes and straps (from a distance, “wires”). To be frank, a phylactery bears more than a passing resemblance to a crude explosive device, at least as they are popularly portrayed. “
Um, yeah, wide leather straps look like wires.  And your application to become an electrician’s apprentice has been denied.

Comment #73: DBK  on  01/22  at  11:50 AM

Wait a minute, if the kid was orthodox jewish, wasn’t he wearing a yarmulke? and like wouldn’t THAT have been a major hint the he was Jewish?

Comment #74: phylosopher  on  01/22  at  12:18 PM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/2833157/Bomb-in-anal-cavity-raises-new-airline-concern

Not long before pre-flight enemas are de riguer.

Comment #75: phylosopher  on  01/22  at  12:24 PM

“Given the preposterous cunning of today’s terrorists…”

...yeah, how can we fight against such cunning?  We might as well Jonestown America to stop the terraists from getting us!

Better Dead Than <strike>Red</strike> Terrorized!...

Comment #76: MikeEss  on  01/22  at  12:36 PM

I’m not really inclined to assign individual blame when what we have basically is an elaborate system of “telephone” in which the people at either end of the command chain end up controlling the situation. The pilots are encouraged to lock down at the first sign of trouble, and have to depend on the flight attendants to assess the issue. This, in turn, gets passed on verbally to an agency that was just attacked by the media for failing to respond to a plane that overshot its destination and was out of communication.

So really, you have an entire system based on knee-jerk defensiveness and fear relaying information in perhaps the worst way possible.

Comment #77: CBrachyrhynchos  on  01/22  at  12:38 PM

“Wait a minute, if the kid was orthodox jewish, wasn’t he wearing a yarmulke? and like wouldn’t THAT have been a major hint the he was Jewish?”

That’s EXACTLY the kind of thing those Preposterously Cunning Terraists would know, and use against American Freedom, Liberty <strike>and Democracy</strike>!  If you are wearing stereotypical Jewish clothing, then you are most likely a terraist and need to be shot for the safety and security of all Good Americans!!

We can’t take a chance that a person who is different might be safe!  We must destroy individualism!  Diversity is a threat to America!  We must demand conformity!  We must start with those who wear glasses and those who wear their pants below their waist, and move up from there!  Fear is Our Salvation!  War is Peace!  Freedom is Slavery!  Ignorance is Strength!...

Comment #78: MikeEss  on  01/22  at  12:49 PM

Hob @ #58:Why does it even matter whether the crew recognized the stuff or not? How deadly could something possibly be that is HALF THE SIZE OF A PACK OF CIGARETTES?!

well, if the boxes were packed with C4, it would have certainly been enough to, at the very least, blow a large hole in the plane.

and as for the training fail thing, even though someone may be trained for a certain situation, method, etc., unless it is reinforced at least somewhat regularly, they tend to forget.

Comment #79: The Gray Train  on  01/22  at  12:50 PM

“you do know most commercial pilots are ex-Air Force, right? Even today.”

Right, “EX-Air Force”. No longer in the military. Civilians don’t hold rank.

Comment #80: Mark  on  01/22  at  01:18 PM

i’m surprised no one has mentioned this important passage from the msnbc article:

“...the teen and his sister were never in custody and were cleared to continue their travels.”

in other words, “we think he has a bomb, but he’s white, so it’s all good.”

Comment #81: cj  on  01/22  at  01:19 PM

Wait a minute, if the kid was orthodox jewish, wasn’t he wearing a yarmulke? and like wouldn’t THAT have been a major hint the he was Jewish?

If he was wearing the black broad-brimmed hat that many Orthodox/Hassidim wear, or he was wearing a baseball cap, how would anyone know?

of course, paper *can* be explosive, but I’m not sure if such can be printed on, plus, the only kinds I know of are pretty weak and simply gimmicks for magic acts)

They are an example of nitrocellulose, which as guncotton, is rated as a low-yield explosive, but some forms are rather flammable.

It’s the reason that old reels of film can be hazardous, I remember reading someone talking about visiting Buster Keaton in the 60s’ and how Keaton was smoking while getting out some of his old films to show to the narrator, all the while the narrator was getting worried at the prospect of being a witness to Keaton’s life and career literally going up in flames….

Just remember that you don’t need to explode a plane to drop it out of the sky:

The US Navy shot a training film for projectionists that included footage of a controlled ignition of a reel of nitrate film, which continued to burn even when fully submerged in water.Unlike many other flammable materials, nitrocellulose does not need the oxygen in the air to keep burning and once it is burning, it is extremely difficult to put out. Immersing burning film in water may not extinguish the fire and it could actually increase the amount of smoke produced.[5] Owing to public safety precautions, the London Underground forbade transport of movies on its system until well past the introduction of safety film.

Link

Comment #82: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  01/22  at  02:02 PM

Bad Jim:
Heh.
Being Heathen, we more generally whip out the drinking horn.  Not that we’re against the other, and I for sure pray like hell to Thor on planes, but generally not out loud.

Comment #83: lonespark  on  01/22  at  02:14 PM

“We can’t take a chance that a person who is different might be safe!  We must destroy individualism!  Diversity is a threat to America!  We must demand conformity!  We must start with those who wear glasses and those who wear their pants below their waist, and move up from there!  Fear is Our Salvation!  War is Peace!  Freedom is Slavery!  Ignorance is Strength!… “

Is anyone suggesting anything along those lines? Nope. Strawmen, so easy to knock down.

Comment #84: Pandagon Conservative  on  01/22  at  02:19 PM

Speaking as someone who has never seen this before . . .

You’re in Brooklyn now, right? You’ll be seeing it now and again. You’ve got neighbors who do it every day—usually at home, but if they’re running late (like if they have to catch a plane), they’ll do it on the way, because y’know they just gotta!

Some religions tend to reinforce OCD-like behavior, but observant Judaism really goes in for it.

Comment #85: Molly, NYC  on  01/22  at  02:22 PM

obnoxiously “modest” clothing

That’s the best oxymoron I’ve seen in a long time.

(And that’s a compliment, because “oxymoron” does not mean, as so many believe, “contradiction in terms.” It means a combination of opposing or incongruent terms for epigrammic effect. [/pedantry])

Comment #86: Bitter Scribe  on  01/22  at  02:34 PM

Pandagon Conservative is vewy concerned.

Comment #87: BlackBloc  on  01/22  at  02:34 PM

Actually, Pandagon Conservative, instead of the quote you cited being a straw man, I found it to be a fairly good summation of American attitudes towards difference, individuality and safety, which make them so willing to piss away their alleged principles and any capacity for joy in experiencing moments in life, in exchange for a government-prescribed illusion of safety.

Comment #88: Luke  on  01/22  at  02:57 PM

Re: Comment #30, I find it strange to say you would understand why people unfamiliar with the practice would find it worrisome but that to think it was terroism is a stretch, because that is the ONLY reason why people would find it worrisome in the first place. 

This had nothing to do with religious bias, and Marcotte’s assertion that this was a result of people being offended by a non-Christian religious practice, or finding it “weird” is unfounded.  This was the result of ignorance and irrational fear.  People saw a kid strapping something to himself and in our post 9/11 world, registered “OMG BOMB!,” and let fear overtake them. It was irrational and could have been resolved in a much more reasonable manner, but it was due to pure and simple ignorance, nothing more.  And that seems so obvious to me that I find it extremely kneejerk and leading of Marcotte to paint this instead as Christians causing a clamor over religious practices different from their own.  Plenty of ignorant, non-religious people who see terrorists in every unfamiliar behavior would have reacted exactly the same way.

Comment #89: Vaola  on  01/22  at  03:23 PM

well, if the boxes were packed with C4, it would have certainly been enough to, at the very least, blow a large hole in the plane.

I had no idea that C4 was so powerful.  I read on Wikipedia that the boxes average about 35mm a side, so we’re talking two 1.5-inch cubes of C4.  One is strapped to the guys forehead so all that’s going to do is blow his head off.  The other is strapped to his arm so that blows his left hand off.  I don’t see how that blows a large hole in the plane.  Also consider that the plane’s skin is made of somewhat thick aluminum, and even if he took the tefillin off and stuck the C4 against the wall of the passenger compartment it’s still not directly on the fuselage; there’s insulation and the hard plastic of the wall itself which I would think would tend to absorb and deflect the explosion back into the cabin (this isn’t a shaped charge here, it’s a cube).  I’m not a demolitions expert so I could be very wrong, but offhand it seems pretty unlikely that such a small charge would do anything more than make a very loud bang.

I have to agree with Amanda.  It was the combination of non-Christian religious practice with unfamiliar paraphernalia (I’d never seen or heard of them, and I watched the 2nd season of Rome a couple of months ago so clearly it didn’t register) and ignorant fear that caused this whole incident.  Did people not think this kid’s stuff managed to make it though security, so the TSA at least thought it was non-threatening?  How was he going to detonate his C4 tefillin, since he couldn’t bring a blasting cap through security?  Nobody thought about that.  Young kid + foreign religion + praying + paraphernalia = ZOMG TERRA!!!1!  And that was it.  Face it, the terrorists have won.

Comment #90: liberalrob  on  01/22  at  03:24 PM

The kid said he was praying, but he didn’t mention Jesus, and alll the words were funny. And his little “prayer book” didn’t even have writing in it, just weird symbols. And he was reading it backwards. Sure, maybe those symbols are some weird Jew-language, but God only speaks English, so again, not prayer. And if he was innocent, why couldn’t he have spoken English like a normal person?

chin (13):

On the NYT’s blog entry on this, a lot of the commenters are saying he should have just prayed in the bathroom or not prayed publicly. First of all, praying in the bathroom is not an alternative, theologically. Two, taking a bag with you (if it’s not a women’s purse and you’re not a woman) into the bathroom and staying there a long time also is very suspicious. Third, I’ll buy that he should have kept it to himself the first time I see a story about a plane being diverted because someone was praying the rosary.

As with telling women to breastfed in the bathroom, this sort of stigmatizes an activity that should not be in any way shameful. And if sending nursing mothers to the bathroom conveys the message “that’s a shameful, disgusting bodily function,“what does sending daveners there say?

Amanda (16):

I’m sure I’ve seen it in marginal ways, on TV or something, but not in person, no.

What Molly said. That will change.

eze (36):

You also have to remember: some of these Orthodox kids are seriously unsocialized and unable to function well in the secular world. There’s whole organizations (Footsteps) dedicated to helping people who leave an ultra-Orthodox lifestyle adjust to life outside that community.

Well, thank Christ there’s someone to rescue those poor innocents from that horrible cult, “Judaism.”

Comment #91: Hershele Ostropoler  on  01/22  at  03:24 PM

I don’t know Bitter Scribe, “preposterous cunning” was a pretty good oxymoron too.

Comment #92: Sarcastro  on  01/22  at  03:37 PM

I do have some sympathy for passengers who may have been unnerved by the scene. That is about it, though. Passengers are not in control of the plane. The crew is, abd they should know better than to freak out because a Jewish passenger is praying.

Comment #93: Tyro  on  01/22  at  03:39 PM

Possibly relevant. Most commercial pilots are ex-Air Force. Most Air Force personel are raving psychotic blow-brown-people-to-hell Christians. Kids were Jewish - nearly as bad as Muslim, except the Jews have to be around for the Rapture to take place.

Just sayin’.

Those poor kids…

Comment #94: paleotectonics  on  01/22  at  03:40 PM

The Jewish passengers should probably have been more thoughtful and notified the crew in advance.

It’s easy to have forgotten the fundamentals after the prior eight years, especially if you’re one of those who spent the time cheering every time the Bush/Cheney Administration took another crap on the Constitution. So let me remind you (if, in fact, you ever knew it) of a basic fact about our country:

Americans don’t have to take shit about their beliefs.

One more reason why conservatives have to wrap themselves in the flag every chance they get: to disguise the fact that as Americans, as citizens, as people who really do love their country, conservatives stink on ice.

Comment #95: Molly, NYC  on  01/22  at  04:20 PM

“Americans don’t have to take shit about their beliefs.”

While this is built into the Constitution, and I fully agree with the sentiment, the fact is that unless you’re a Christian, and preferably a Protestant (and preferably a Southern Baptist), you’re not only out of the mainstream in America, you’re not considered a Real American, and your rights to practice the religion of your choice — or not to practice any religion at all — are subject to the whims of the Real Americans around you.

We have a long history or anti-Jewish sentiment, anti-Catholic sentiment, and atheists are ranked down with child molesters and the French.  Americans are intolerant of any major differences with the mainstream of American society.

The whole bogus “War On Terra” has just brought a lot of this out into the light, but it certainly didn’t create it…

Comment #96: MikeEss  on  01/22  at  05:26 PM

As with telling women to breastfed in the bathroom, this sort of stigmatizes an activity that should not be in any way shameful.

Just to be clear, I absolutely agree. I didn’t state it explicitly in my comment and probably by addressing the suggestion the way I did I gave it more validity than I intended or it deserved. But no, there shouldn’t be anything shameful about it, and when you contrast the “War on Christmas” in which we’re bludgeoned with the idea that (Christian) religion doesn’t have enough space in the public sphere with the idea that any non-Christian type of praying should be done in the bathroom, of all places, so as not to disturb other people, well, there’s a wee bit of inequity there.

Though it’s interesting to note that women have been kicked off of airplanes for not sufficiently covering up while breastfeeding. Flight attendants get a tremendous amount of power to turn their own insecurities into other people’s problems. There’s a very broad enforcement of social norms in all directions, not just Christian/non-Christian.

Comment #97: chingona  on  01/22  at  05:28 PM

I’d like to encourage fellow pagans to do something comparable at Imbolc, Groundhog day or thereabouts, but in a more traditional fashion - not lighting candles, no, the other fashion, what we do at every holiday, fucking.

FWIW, the day for fucking-as-religious-worship is Beltane.  Imbolc is for lighting candles and eating a shit ton of cheese.

Comment #98: The Opoponax  on  01/22  at  05:41 PM

No one knows what prayers were inside that person’s forehead box. It could very well have concealed a terrorist’s prayer.

Comment #99: mnsr  on  01/22  at  05:51 PM

Well, thank Christ there’s someone to rescue those poor innocents from that horrible cult, “Judaism.”

Ezedawg didn’t say “Judaism,” Hershele. S/he said “ultra-Orthodoxy.” Which is to Judaism as the Dominionists are to xtianity.

Comment #100: Nobody in Particular  on  01/22  at  05:53 PM

And, Vaola, you sound Very Very Concerned that everybody here is out to oppress the Poor Poor Xtians.

Yeah, no kidding, some people who are bigoted against Muslims or Jews aren’t xtian. However, if we’re talking about the U.S., chances are very high that they were raised xtian, and in any case they’re still part of the culture… which was shaped by western xtianity.

Comment #101: Nobody in Particular  on  01/22  at  05:56 PM

What Molly said. That will change.

I’ve lived 5 blocks from Hasidic Williamsburg for several years (and my GYN is in Crown Heights) and I’ve never actually seen anyone wearing tefillin on the streets.  In my experience it’s not something you’re terribly likely to see outside of a religious space, even in Brooklyn. 

Sometimes it seems like this place is a giant stereotype, but I promise it’s not.

Though of course other commenters who’ve pointed out that there should have been others on the plane who were familiar with tefillin is a great point.

Comment #102: The Opoponax  on  01/22  at  06:02 PM

Post 9/11 world and all that, I can sympathize with some people seeing what that kid was doing and having an instant visceral reaction of fear, especially as tefillin are evidently not well-known.  That said, it could have been quickly resolved without all that fuss.  A 17 year old kid doing something innocent is going to behave rather differently than someone actually intending to blow up a plane.  I agree that a second, closer look should have calmed down anyone who was alarmed at first glance.  It’s also a good point that what the passengers on the plane think is meaningless so long as the crew members are aware that nothing nefarious is in the works.  And if it is true that TSA personnel are trained as to what tefillin are, well then the whole damned episode could have been cleared up in two minutes.  Which means that somebody owes that kid and everyone else on the plane some compensation for allowing things to get so out of hand.

Comment #103: Silfren  on  01/22  at  06:29 PM

MikeEss (@ 96) - I hear ya, but the fact that some a-holes act like a-holes doesn’t mean that any American should take it.

There are a lot of things that have to be cleaned up after the Rs did their level best to suck the country dry, and one of them is making it crystal-clear to the bigots and sexophobes—possibly with 2-by-4s, or the rhetorical equivalents—that, despite a decade of continual encouragement for their ignorant, dipshit views, they are not representative of most Americans, and they are ignorant dipshits.

Comment #104: Molly, NYC  on  01/22  at  06:43 PM

Opoponax- I’ve seen it on the subway. But it’s not the sort of thing you can multitask, so walking down the street, no.

Comment #105: Molly, NYC  on  01/22  at  06:49 PM

This incident reminds me of one of the post-9/11 movies which came out about the hijackings.  In particular, I remember them showing the hijackers as tying cloth folded as headbands over their foreheads at the start of the hijacking, and having the hijackers continue to wear them through the end of the film.  It was filmed as sort of a ritual act - all of the hijackers tied green cloths as headbands in a synchronized motion, at the moment they began the hijacking. 

I don’t know if the headbands were something that is recorded as happening, or if it was artistic license, a way to visually identify the hijackers in the film. 

But if someone remembered, or half-remembered, that scene, I could see it creating some subconscious anxiety about someone ritually tying something across their forehead.

Which still doesn’t excuse this type of extreme over reaction. 

But I wonder if the people who made the film thought about the various forms of ritual head-wrapping (Jewish tefillin, and in particular Sikh turbans) and how making a point of the headbands would add to the problems people face when wearing such items.

Comment #106: Ursula L  on  01/22  at  07:09 PM

I maybe possibly might have seen it on the subway.  But then I’ve lived here almost 10 years now.  You could easily spend years in Brooklyn (especially Park Slope, heh) and never come across that particular aspect of Jewish religious observance.

Comment #107: The Opoponax  on  01/22  at  07:13 PM

But if someone remembered, or half-remembered, that scene, I could see it creating some subconscious anxiety about someone ritually tying something across their forehead.

There’s also the fact that most Americans assume that Terrorist = Swarthy Religious Extremist.  Doing anything with a vague religious tinge to it that does not conform to Middle-American Christian ideas of “normal” religious observance is liable to set off people Ohnoez, A Terrissss! alarms. 

See also the MSM’s obsession with the cry of “Allahu Akbar!”  As if it were some sort of official terrorist calling card or something.

Comment #108: The Opoponax  on  01/22  at  07:20 PM

Thank you, Nobody in Particular, re Hershele. And to respond to Amanda: the linked story said crew wasn’t getting a clear answer; Chin saw other stories that said they were communicative and cooperative, but none of us know an actual timeline here. My point was that it’s entirely possible that the crew couldn’t clear a good answer because the kid was scared/unsocialized/davening/whatever, they made the call to divert, and only THEN were the kids clearer about what was going on - but the decision couldn’t be un-made. 

At the same time, I’ve no idea if the kids were ultra-Orthodox. It’s an educated guess but no more.

And yes, Hershele, some of the ultra-Orthodox communities do some pretty scary stuff and some of the young kids truly have never left their community and can’t function in the secular world. I post these links for your education, but want to be clear this represents an extremely small minority of ultra-Orthodox - but can you see why someone living in this community might have trouble adjusting?

http://nymag.com/news/features/48532/
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1075535.html
http://www.forward.com/articles/11506/
http://www.forward.com/articles/119190/
http://www.forward.com/articles/13394/
http://haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=801449&contrassID=19
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?lng=en&id=105332
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5723ab88-d212-11de-a0f0-00144feabdc0.html

Comment #109: ezedawg  on  01/22  at  10:16 PM

The NYT interviewed the kid’s rabbi in their story today, and he said the kid is a good kid who just never thought anyone would be alarmed by tefillin. The rabbi said his recommendation if asked would have been to just daven on the plane and lay tefillin later in a more private place, and that’s his recommendation now.

Based on just that, it doesn’t sound to me like one of the more cult-like sects, though he may very well be ultra-Orthodox.

Comment #110: chingona  on  01/23  at  12:17 AM

I grew up in a Conservative Jewish home, and two of my four grandparents were raised in Orthodox homes (though were not so observant by the time I came along). These are the places where I have tefillin:

morning minyan Sunday-Friday when I have gone to say Kaddish (prayers for the deceased)
my father’s top dresser drawer
one time, in a Jewish community space, one woman teaching another who never had the opportunity to learn because it is traditionally only a men’s ritual

I was given the choice as a pre-teen girl whether I wanted to learn to lay tefillin or not, as my synagogue had become an egalitarian congregation during my school years, and during the transition time girls (or their parents) were given choices of learning traditional men’s rituals. I wanted to learn, but upon finding out that none of the other four girls in the class of of thirteen didn’t want to be the different one, so I never learned. At the most recent Conservative synagogue I attended semi-regularly, the girls participated equally with the boys, so some girls now will know how to lay tefillin, though since overall American Judaism is more secular than it used to be, I suspect there are fewer teens and younger adults overall who know.

I doubt that I have ever in my entire life mentioned tefillin to friend who wasn’t Jewish. Probably the only times I ever talked about them with someone Jewish were in those pre-teen years, when the other four girls and I complained (to each other) about having to sit through the class with the boys though we were not learning what to do. Of course it was what we chose, but eleven-year-olds complain no matter what. I do wonder if any of the other four girls were asked by their parents if they wanted to learn, or if it was just assumed that they didn’t. I remember my mother asking me, and telling me if I wanted to learn I could use my father’s, since he never did anyway.

Comment #111: one jewish dyke  on  01/23  at  01:11 AM

I like how Mr. Concerned has already left, but he did kind of miss the point: The statement says they were cooperative and answered questions about what they were doing.

So here’s what you do. Ask what they’re doing. If they answer something reasonable, like ‘I’m using traditional prayer objects call teffilin, as it is time for evening prayer, even if I don’t have a minyan.” then you should leave it at that. IF they say “I’m using C4 to blow up the plane” feel free to bum rush them.

but seriously, why would they put something on BEFORE blowing it up? I mean, wouldn’t they do just fine leaving the stuff in the bag?

This is pants on head stupid.

Comment #112: karpad  on  01/23  at  01:46 AM

I’m just waiting for the day when some bozo would-be terrorist tries to hide bomb makings in the inside of a cut-out hardback and the TSA bans reading on airplanes.

For ‘couldn’t get a clear answer’, I’m betting that the kid explained they were tefillin which was was putting on to daaven and the flight crew, not understanding what he was talking about, immediately thought OMG TERRORIST.

As for ultra-Orthodox, plenty of people who aren’t Orthodox wear tefillin, so arguing about how some ultra-Orthodox groups are too cultlike is kind of on the distracting-bullshit end of the spectrum. Yep. some of them are. And this has to do with ignorant flight crews how?

Comment #113: mythago  on  01/23  at  03:14 AM

Opoponax (102):

I’ve lived 5 blocks from Hasidic Williamsburg for several years (and my GYN is in Crown Heights) and I’ve never actually seen anyone wearing tefillin on the streets.  In my experience it’s not something you’re terribly likely to see outside of a religious space, even in Brooklyn.

Well, ok, tfillin, no, not on the streets, though I too have seen it on the train. Tsitsis, I can say, now that I’ve lived a block from Boro Park for five years.

Comment #114: Hershele Ostropoler  on  01/23  at  01:12 PM

Christ, why do Yank conservatives wet themselves at the slightest hint of terrorism? Yesterday, on one forum I belong to, a notably conservative and loud-mouthed American (of the kind who likes to sneer at the French at every opportunity) set us British a ‘good luck’ message and a link to a newspaper article about heightened terror alert in London.

I had to not-so-gently point out to him that this was old hat—we’ve lived through terror campaigns in London since the ‘70s and didn’t feel the need to void our bowels over a change in alert status.

Interesting, those terrorists were white Christian lads. But I suppose they don’t count in the current environment.

Comment #115: Lee Brimmicombe-Wood  on  01/24  at  08:57 AM
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