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Should the 80s come back? A fair and balanced analysis.

FashionMusic

Update: I’m adding one more at the top of the list.

I ask if the 80s should come back, even though it’s sort of a moot question because it’s clear that the 80s have come back, and SXSW puts all questions to rest.  For instance, the lead singer of the band Rosie & the Goldbug not only tried to sound just like Cyndi Lauper, she tried to compete with her in the goofy clothes department, as you can see in the picture.

The streets of downtown Austin are awash in neon colors, checkers, brightly colored Converse, slouchy boots, and even, as you see in the picture, leotards.  Initially, I was just against it.  But, upon further reflection, I’ve decided that I’m actually pro-80s (and even the early 90s are coming back!—-flannel everywhere!) in many ways, and so I’m ambivalent about this trend.  I thought I’d do an analysis of the pros and cons, and open it up to debate.

Pro: Cut-up T-shirts. People make fun of the most ubiquitous version of the cut-up shirt look, which is the off-the-shoulder sweatshirt.  Be that as it may, but other forms of this fashion—-cutting off sleeves, using scissors to slant your shirt’s hemline, pencil skirts with angled and hemless bottoms, etc.—-are amazing.  It’s DIY, it’s playful, and it’s sexy without trying too hard.
Con: The no-pants look. Repeat after me: Leggings are not pants.  I’m iffy on leggings at best, especially in this heat, but if you wear them under a dress or a pair of hot pants, you look good.  If you wear them how I’m seeing women wear them—-as an alternative to pants to be worn under shirts that barely cover your butt, if that—-you fail.  I saw a woman wearing cute hot pants, a T-shirt, and leggings, and she looked good.  Too bad the woman I saw wearing a large man’s shirt with a white belt and white leggings couldn’t take a page from her book.

Pro: The return of stripes.  I never quit liking horizontal stripes and wore them proudly through the dark days when no one else did and people said I looked like a sailor.  Now they’re back, and the only reason I’m sad about this is that stripes have stopped being My Thing and now don’t look different at all.
Con: The return of obnoxious checkers. God, I saw a guy wearing checkered sunglasses to match his checkered tie yesterday, and I wanted to throw up.

Pro: The return of the skinny tie/narrow shirt thing. Sharp fashion went through New Wave into the mainstream in the 80s, and this look was the happy result.  You look sharp but not dressed up, and it’s a way for guys to be sexy.  Skinny ties and shirts may not work if you’re a bit heavier, but some guys that are more bear-ish can pull off the suspenders look.
Con: NEON.  Hateful, hateful neon.  I sort of see the appeal a little bit—-bright colors are fun.  Bright pink is acceptable in moderation.  Lime green is actually a neat color.  But when you are talking that neon baby blue, it needs to end, now.  It was stupid the first time, and it’s stupid now.


Pro: Candy-coated synth pop.  The backlash against this kind of music was so severe in the 90s that the rock resurgence was treated like the second coming.  But synth pop didn’t need to be buried, and now straight up rock and roll and Casio-driven dance music have made their peace and live in harmony.  Which is how it should be—-candy-coated synth pop had many highlights, both on the R&B side and on the New Wave side.  I remember the dark days when admitting you liked The Time or New Order would make people sneer at you.  Now, synth pop is back and there are many bands we’ve seen this week that are doing it right, most notably Angry Vs. The Bear. DJ Mel was also phenomenal, and he draws most of the melody part of his mixes from candy-coated synth R&B from the 80s.
Con: Candy-coated synth pop. Then again, this music has a strong tendency to slip into the soulless, inane zone, where the fear of getting heavy leads to embracing a vapid, materialist aesthetic that will never be cool.  Rosie & the Goldbug were the worst offenders I’ve seen this weekend—-they had a song that’s intro was a someone chanting the names of designers like Dolce & Gabbana and Prada.

Pro: The return of the badass female MC.  Hat tip to Samhita for pointing this out to me—-she did a profile of an up-and-coming young rapper named Rye Rye who is tearing it up at SXSW.  She has a very 80s thing going on, as you can see from her video.

There’s a sense in the late 90s that it became harder for women to do what, say, Salt ‘n’ Pepa did, and make it without going all porn star.  Stuff like this is sexy—-because duh, it’s pop music—-but it’s more about having fun than being objectified.  Perhaps bringing the 80s back means recreating these avenues for female performers to be about dancing and partying instead of getting naked.
Con: The return of hair metal.  The good news is that it seems that bands like The Darkness have largely failed to bring back a full-scale return of hair metal.  The new Guns ‘n’ Roses is a joke, Bret Michaels is more famous for “Rock Of Love”, and the hair metal in Rock Band has caused nothing but snickering.  Perhaps this 80s bullet will be safely dodged.

Pro: Devo. Devo’s playing SXSW.  ‘Nuff said.
Con: Metallica.  They are also playing SXSW, for the true WTF moment of the festival.  True, the 80s were when Metallica was good, but they’re not going back to that space, I suspect. 

What parts of the 80s do you want to see come back?  What parts should stay buried forever?

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 01:42 PM • (69) Comments

I want to bring back girls in B&W;striped leggings. Seriously, to this day it’s like catnip to me.

Comment #1: Ross Lincoln  on  03/20  at  01:51 PM

It’s funny but except for the Devo/Metallica thing, I would have reversed all of your pros and cons.

Comment #2: Tyro  on  03/20  at  01:52 PM

I want my ANKLE ZIPPER GUESS JEANS back.  I have never had a pair of jeans that looked so sexy on me before or since.

Okay, I would like to have the body I had when I was 15 and owned those jeans back too, but still. Ones in my size now would be just fine.

Comment #3: Rikibeth  on  03/20  at  01:53 PM

Less Vince Neil and more MC Lyte?  Throw in Joan Jett and you’ve got yourself a deal. wink

When day-glo animal prints make a comeback, then, and only then, will you know the true horror of the fashion apocalypse sprung upon us

Comment #4: damnedyankee  on  03/20  at  01:54 PM

True, the 80s were when Metallica was good, but they’re not going back to that space, I suspect.

Unless Zombie Cliff Burton makes an appearance.

Comment #5: Sarcastro  on  03/20  at  01:56 PM

Oh damn, Ross, I need to add one more.

Comment #6: Amanda Marcotte  on  03/20  at  01:57 PM

Wait, didn’t the 80s already come back a few years ago? Did it go away and then come back again or is it just hitting the big time now. Note that I don’t actually know anything about what’s popular.

Comment #7: MaxPolun  on  03/20  at  01:58 PM

DOA, Minor Threat, Bad Religion, Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys. These were the 80s. Everything else I’d rather forget, and I can’t even do that with massive influx of alcohol since I’ve been straight edge for over 10 years now.

Comment #8: BlackBloc  on  03/20  at  01:59 PM

Max:  I suspect this is the final crest of 80’s nostalgia before everyone starts getting nostalgic for the 90’s.  Expect much flannel and panic over Goth kids gone wild coming to your town soon. wink

Comment #9: damnedyankee  on  03/20  at  02:01 PM

Max, they’ve been coming back, but it’s hitting overload now.

Comment #10: Amanda Marcotte  on  03/20  at  02:04 PM

I graduated from high school and college during the 80s, and am kind of amazed, when I look back, about how sexually innocent my peers and I were. Not that we weren’t Doing It—but we were doing it in granny panties, unshaven, wearing baggy clothes, etc. As a young woman, I never felt pressure to be overtly sexual in dress or manner (and I got laid plenty). I’d like to see that part of the 80s come back.

The rest of it? Not so much.

Comment #11: jenofiniquity  on  03/20  at  02:05 PM

Do I lose cred for admitting that I like hair metal bands?

Agreed with everything else on the list though :D

Comment #12: themann1086  on  03/20  at  02:05 PM

The 80s: when just about everything good or bad in music, art, and culture could be rightfully blamed on cocaine. So long as hair metal remains a bad memory, I’ll accept the return of everything else. I’ll throw a parade for those godawful wine coolers if it means banishing Pabst Blue Ribbon until the retro-hipster movement begins in another twenty years.

Comment #13: TDMC  on  03/20  at  02:08 PM

I’m excited for a wave of early-90s nostalgia.  I never stopped liking flannel, and I liked that the grunge style for women involved combat boots and other aggressive, masculine clothing paired with loose, comfy sundresses. Though those flowered ankle-length dresses that Elaine wore in the first few seasons of Seinfeld must never return.

Comment #14: Betsy  on  03/20  at  02:15 PM

—what jenofiniquity said.

Comment #15: nolo  on  03/20  at  02:16 PM

Let’s see, the 80’s. 

Pro : punk rock reached its peak (see : the Dicks set at the Austin Music Awards that I didn’t get to see.)  Kate Bush reached her peak - maybe she’ll finally become big in the U.S., though I’m not counting on it.  Electronic music went digital.  Alternative got its start MTV.

Cons : Shoulder pads.  Armani suits.  Acid-washed jeans.  The aforementioned hair bands. MTV.

Comment #16: PWI  on  03/20  at  02:20 PM

Well I definitely agree with you about stripes, I’ve been obsessed with them for years as well. I like the neon colors though, although I wouldn’t ever wear them myself.
Yeah, their has been very good synth pop and bad synth pop since the electro-clash thing happened earlier in the decade. In my opinion, the Junior Boys are far and away the best of the new synth based bands but Cut-Copy, the Knife, Hercules and Love Affair, M83 and others have done interesting and really good synth pop influenced fusion type music as well. I do wish more bands drew from even better 80s music like Echo and the Bunnymen, XTC, Joy Division, Elvis Costello, Prince and the Smiths. I know these bands are already influential but I still there is more to build upon in their music then say Depeche Mode or late Human League (early Human League is different story however).
I agree that hair metal can stay in the 80s. No thanks. And they can take Metallica with them. Yuck.
I would really love a revival of the artier side of glam rock personally, stuff like Roxy Music, Cockney Rebel or Bowie. Much of that music still sounds edgier then most anything being made right now and a lot more fun.

Comment #17: AdamN  on  03/20  at  02:26 PM

Yeah, I do feel like the 80’s have been back for about 2 years now, but I guess its also sort of regional.

I remember when I moved cities a few years ago, stuff that was already big and was fading in the place I was coming from was just beginning to show up where I was going to.

Comment #18: SuperD  on  03/20  at  02:27 PM

Double plus what jenofiniquity said.  I’m a product of the 80s too and as much as it was a horrid time in many ways (I did NOT look good in leggings or ankle zip jeans) there wasn’t near as much pressure on young women to police and maintain every crevice of their bodies.  Not only was no one getting Brazilian waxes, but pedicures weren’t de rigueur like they are now.  And I’ve met an alarming number of men in recent years who demand that women comply with certain beauty regimens at a minimum and inspect their dates or partners to ensure they have, so don’t tell me this is something women are imposing on themselves.

Comment #19: DonnaDiva  on  03/20  at  02:28 PM

Yea 80s!  Yea new wave/synth pop/whatever the cool kids want to call it so they can pretend it’s all new again.

Seriously, have you seen the 70s?  And the ridiculous lengths the 90s went to bring 70s back into fashion.  That stuff was dead ugly.  The 80s were about looking good.  Clothes had waists, for a while, before the Units look of giant top and leggings took over the world.

Admittedly, things got out of control, but we’d never had mousse before—no one knew you could make your hair that big.  And the shoulder pads were an attempt to balance that out.  When they went to excess, it was bad.

But I’m sick to death of Jennifer Anniston straight long hair.  Boring.  The bob is already coming back in a longer form.  It’s good.  Just no headbands.  Just no.  Nor dozens of handkerchiefs worn as headbands/neckbands/armbands/legbands.  My high school actually made a rule that you could only wear 1.  They weren’t totally wrong about that.

I still have my skinny zippered jeans.  And a black jacket with royal blue plaid from “Limited Express”.  If I don’t eat from now till October, I can wear them to my reunion.

We stick with the early 80s—1983-5, we’ll be fine.  Late 80s with the hair metal bands?  Too much of all the bad stuff.

Comment #20: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  03/20  at  02:41 PM

We can skip the popular hairstyles & Izod-like shirts & those horrible deck shoes.  And, please, for thingsake, can we not do stirrup pants?  I’d be okay with keeping vinyl jackets buried in whatever landfill they went to.

I want fishnets and plaid and overcoats back.  Mohawks and chains and short boots, too.  Jolt Cola.  Oh!  And teensploitation/slasher/horror movies.

Psychedelic country punk would be nice, although there’s a lot more good music to be easily found these days than back then.

I thought I could have the best part of 80’s nostalgia when I saw Be Your Own Pet.  But then they broke up which…. well, sure.  But not when you’re the only ones.

But now that I think about it, didn’t we just end the 80’s comeback with the exit of Bushadmin Co?  They really put the fear and depression back into the national mood and that is really what the 80’s were all about.

Comment #21: Jake Squid  on  03/20  at  02:43 PM

If the people in the hipster coffee shop I go to every now and then are any kind of leading indicator, and from past experience I suspect they sort of are, the part of the early ‘90s that’s coming back is: the techno.

I know I know, it’s just what I’m seein’.

Comment #22: brandon  on  03/20  at  02:55 PM

I say skip the 80s revival and start doing something new for the big 00s (and start thinking about what we’ll do for the 10s). I have had enough of 80s nostalgia while I was a punk growing up in the 90s. Or are we to suffer through an unending string of revivals? I mean, already people remember the 70s revival of the 90s… I’m guessing if we revive the 90s we’re also going to be reviving the 70s revival? Kill me now!

Comment #23: BlackBloc  on  03/20  at  03:02 PM

Ok, so we’re now in the DOW 36,000 period of 80’s nostalgia. It seems to me like the early phase of any nostalgic retro comeback is for the good parts (like bringing back new wave), but before too long people bring back all the bad parts as well.

Comment #24: MaxPolun  on  03/20  at  03:02 PM

Bring back nothing but the music of the 80s, especially hair bands and Tears for Fears.  I would rather have 1970s women’s styles back than 1980s.  As for men’s styles, maybe the late 40s??  I’d rather try for “Cary Grant” than “Duran Duran”

Comment #25: Woodrowfan  on  03/20  at  03:03 PM

Another Pro- Baroque Metal aka New Wave of British Heavy Metal. When metal allowed their music to combine prog rock aesthetics, the flying guitars of the 70s with long-winded lyrics of ancient myths as well as liberal critiques of religion and government. Plus, Judas Priest and the gay leather movement, nuff said. The resurgence of the old favorites have reminded people that metal used to be more than unintelligible growls, misogyny, and Metallica.

On hair metal, I’m glad to see them gone, but I am appreciative of one thing they and glam were able to do, which is mainstream gender-bending. A bunch of misogynists prancing in leggings and makeup unwittingly managed to make people seriously question how important physical clues to gender were.

Of course, David Bowie did the same thing, but with talent, so I’ll add him as another pro.

Comment #26: Cerberus  on  03/20  at  03:04 PM

We were having 80s-nostalgia parties back in the mid-90s. I 80s have staying power. There isn’t going to be any nostalgia for the 90s.

Acid-washed jeans.

Ripped acid-washed jeans!

Comment #27: Tyro  on  03/20  at  03:08 PM

Do whatever you want, but leave the Jheri-Curl mullet lying unmourned in its lonely grave.

Comment #28: damnedyankee  on  03/20  at  03:13 PM

I want the 80’s style Alternative & Industrial music back. Hair metal can fuck off & die. I am officially old.

Comment #29: Mark  on  03/20  at  03:17 PM

As long as we’re recalling 80’s bands, I’ll take The Jam and Style Council.

Won’t even need to update the lyrics.

Comment #30: stryx  on  03/20  at  03:18 PM

No cowl necked sweaters.

Those are ugly.

BlackBloc, they are always trying to bring back the 70s.  Godawful puke green/brown/orange crap.  That fucking Prada pattern that’s actually Ernie from Sesame Street’s pajamas.  Bell bottoms.  Pornstaches and sideburns.  Polyester everywhere.  The 70s were gross.

Comment #31: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  03/20  at  03:44 PM

“I say skip the 80s revival and start doing something new for the big 00s (and start thinking about what we’ll do for the 10s).”

I move that the ‘00s be stricken from the record, Your Honor…

Comment #32: MikeEss  on  03/20  at  03:45 PM

“Con: The return of obnoxious checkers. God, I saw a guy wearing checkered sunglasses to match his checkered tie yesterday, and I wanted to throw up.”

Checkers are actually a “Pro” if you’re talking about Vans. Clothes? Very much a “Con”.

Comment #33: Mark  on  03/20  at  03:55 PM

<blockquote>I move that the ‘00s be stricken from the record, Your Honor… <blockquote>

Well, at the very least, the whole time between 00 and 08…

Comment #34: BlackBloc  on  03/20  at  03:59 PM

Hmm. Selected parts of it could come back. Like the good, danceable music, like real actual punk rock, like when “alternative” meant dressing wild and cool, not just some stupid band T-shirt and black jeans or some ugly too small hipster stuff.

I like the neon colors in small doses. Looks great paired with black.

What must not come back: caterpillar eyebrows. Blech! Hair metal can stay dead, thanks.

Goth kids gone wild? ahahahaha… all of us from the original crowd are middle aged now. Some of us stayed wild, some others settled down a bit and had little baby bats. Me, I’m intent on instructing the younger generation of d00m on how to wear makeup properly (Do! Not! Scribble! On! Your! Face!) and where to get decent clothes, forget the stupid band shirts and black jeans all the time.

Yeah I remember the big hair. I had this apple pectin mousse stuff with red coloring in it. That plus a curling iron, whoo hoo!

Comment #35: Creepy Doll  on  03/20  at  04:08 PM

I love neon light blue.  And the short but attractive women’s hairstyles.  Hate shoulder pads and recession.

Comment #36: lonespark  on  03/20  at  04:13 PM

What parts of the 80s do you want to see come back?

Well produced, non-brutal and even, occasionally, non-misogynistic porn.

What parts should stay buried forever?

Saturday morning cartoons.

Comment #37: Sarcastro  on  03/20  at  04:25 PM

the only thing I know is “in” right now is the black and white houndstooth pattern. it’s on everything.

Comment #38: Stephanie  on  03/20  at  04:36 PM

I submit that David Bowie is one of the better parts of whichever decade he happens to be part of.  Not that I’ve had a huge crush on him since the 80s or anything, gracious no.

Comment #39: kaninchen  on  03/20  at  04:36 PM

I do have a fair amount of ‘80s music in my collection (high school years), but otherwise I’ll take the ‘90s in a heartbeat.

I’m with BlackBloc on 2000-2008 (probably 2009 and 2010, too). As for the ‘70s, my opinion boils down to a question I asked my parents: what were you people thinking?!

Comment #40: Gracchus.  on  03/20  at  04:39 PM

I say skip the 80s revival and start doing something new for the big 00s (and start thinking about what we’ll do for the 10s). I have had enough of 80s nostalgia while I was a punk growing up in the 90s. Or are we to suffer through an unending string of revivals? I mean, already people remember the 70s revival of the 90s… I’m guessing if we revive the 90s we’re also going to be reviving the 70s revival? Kill me now!

I suspect these things follow generational cycles in some way.  The reason, IMHO, we’re seeing a fairly strong 80s revival (which I’d argue started around the mid-90s if 80s collection albums are any indication) is because the demographic that has memories of 80s popular culture is now moving into positions of cultural influence and productivity, and the audiences that are most receptive to what they produce will be folks in a similar age cohort.  It’s not just in popular music, but you see it in television, movies, books, etc.

Think about the nostalgia there was for the 1950s during the 1970s (Grease, Happy Days, etc.) and the even strong nostalgia for the 1960s during the 1980s (“classic rock” radio, The Wonder Years, etc.).  I realize that these are just a few examples and I may be overgeneralizing here, but I do think that there’s something to the notion of a 20 or so year revival pattern.

Comment #41: Linnaeus  on  03/20  at  04:52 PM

Should the 80s come back? A fair and balanced analysis.

Next Week On the Amanda Marcotte Show:  The Pros and Cons of sticking your hand in a blender.

Comment #42: Zifnab25  on  03/20  at  04:53 PM

I submit that David Bowie is one of the better parts of whichever decade he happens to be part of.  Not that I’ve had a huge crush on him since the 80s or anything, gracious no.

I think Bowie’s best stuff was in the 1970s, but that’s due to the influence of my mother.

Comment #43: Linnaeus  on  03/20  at  04:54 PM

I was just thinking about Salt n Pepa last night.  More of that kind of stuff would be great.

But no shoulder pads, please.

Comment #44: rowmyboat  on  03/20  at  05:18 PM

I say skip the 80s revival and start doing something new for the big 00s (and start thinking about what we’ll do for the 10s). I have had enough of 80s nostalgia while I was a punk growing up in the 90s. Or are we to suffer through an unending string of revivals? I mean, already people remember the 70s revival of the 90s… I’m guessing if we revive the 90s we’re also going to be reviving the 70s revival? Kill me now!

Indeed. I’m just tired of the backward glance in everything. Maybe it’s my middle-aged crankiness and distrust of nostalgia kicking in, but I’m just not interested in that stuff anymore, if I ever was in the first place.

Comment #45: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  03/20  at  05:47 PM

i’m really surprised no one has mentioned the mullet. in my neck of the woods, the straight hipster girls are wearing leggings and long shirts (although i suspect that trend is fading- i worked in a middle school where “tights are not pants” was an actual morning announcement a few weeks ago. if the 12 year olds are doing it again, the hipsters aren’t long for it) and awkward hair,

but the queer girls are rocking the overcoats and mullets like nobody’s business. i don’t know if i am pro or con. up until a few months ago, i hated (!!) mullets. But seeing the dyke-y andro punk mullets in my neighborhood is sorta changing my mind…

Comment #46: cedarcrane  on  03/20  at  06:19 PM

Beware!  We’re running out of Retro!

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29830

Oh, The Onion, does your boundless archive ever lack in something relevant?

Comment #47: tannenburg  on  03/20  at  06:35 PM

I wish Joe Strummer could be brought back.

One of the things I like best looking back on it was the freedom for men to experiment more with hair and clothing.  Some didn’t work out so well, but damm I think I looked good with skinny ties, 60s vintage suit jackets and spiky hair.

the 90s sucked far worse for fashion.  I hope plaid flannel shirts never, ever comes back.  I also prefer jeans that fit and are cut to the right length.  So the baggy ass jeans with too-long, raggedy cuffs, can stay dead too IMO.

Comment #48: Ron O.  on  03/20  at  06:41 PM

I wholeheartedly agree that tights are not pants. And that neon should remain minimal at most. Relevant quote from a friend of mine: “It was the ‘80s. There was so much coke and so much neon…those things were definitely connected.”

Comment #49: Lauren O  on  03/20  at  07:14 PM

Does this mean I can pull my skinny ties out of storage??

Comment #50: Woodrowfan  on  03/20  at  07:14 PM

Limited neon WITH BLACK.  Not that I’m so pro-black only outfits anymore, but if everything else is neutral/black, then the neon pops and it doesn’t hurt your eyes.

Comment #51: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  03/20  at  07:38 PM

Yes, please bring back the fun, non-misogynistic hip hop!  I believe in the second coming of Salt n Pepa.

On the other hand, I have to restrain myself from screaming “LEGGINGS ARE NOT PANTS” several times a week.

Comment #52: LauraB  on  03/20  at  08:10 PM

I thought it was the Onion, but it turns out it was Frank Zappa of all people:

“The end of history will come when the interval between an event and nostalgia for that event dwindles to zero.”

Comment #53: felagund  on  03/20  at  09:08 PM

I never got to wear the signature ‘80s looks that were featured at Commander Salamander n Georgetown, Washington, D.C., near where I live.

I do remember (a) a neon terry tube dress that I wore at age 12, around 1982;
(b) a chain called Foxmoor, with countless jingly accessories, including a necklace in the shape of a scarf made from pastel chain mail;
(c) Jacquard sweaters in fourteen basic colors (just the same as the colors on your Apple screren!)
(d) granny boots, especially with built-in sock tops;
(e) cowboy shoes and boots, which the “it” girls at my school wore, and which I couldn’t afford;
(f) the bizarre proportions of clothes—huge shoulders and armholes, dropped waists, or cinched paperbag waists, pants with baggy thighs and pegged ankles.

Nobody is bringing back these proportions. When my family went through some bags of clothes from my and my sisters’ 1980s high-school days, we had to throw them all out because the proportions were so out of date.

Comment #54: sara  on  03/20  at  11:04 PM

I was a child in the ‘80s, but there are a few things I remember that I wish would stay dead and buried.  Among them, the big hair, tapered leg jeans with waists that went up to your bustline, dresses with waists that slung along the hips, and all the icky, floppy bows and puffed sleeves. 

It’s not really a matter of taste (except for the hair thing).  None of the fashions above are even remotely flattering for my body type, and, well, tapered leg jeans don’t make anyone look good.

Though if they brought back Jelly shoes and slap bracelets, I’d be totally cool with that.  Oooh, and slinkies!

Comment #55: Karinna A.  on  03/21  at  01:12 AM

I want to see 80s white boy soul… only sung by girls. Like this (well… a cover in this case):

the bird and the bee “can’t go for that”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw25zcErQws

Comment #56: encephalopath  on  03/21  at  02:41 AM

I’d love jelly shoes to come back. Who knew plastic could be so comfortable?

Comment #57: Samantha Vimes  on  03/21  at  06:28 AM

Linnaeus, you aren’t wrong. When I was in high school in the 70’s there was a big 50’s revival, with jitterbug classes and Happy Days and all.

I’ve also noticed that some things come back changed. Country Line dancing was Disco Line dancing with a different soundtrack, which was itself probably something previous with a different music. If you overlook obvious specifics, there’s a lot more recycling going on than just Time-Life Music collections.

Just please, no mullets.

Comment #58: Lymis  on  03/21  at  09:59 AM

Rosie & the Goldbug were the worst offenders I’ve seen this weekend—-they had a song that’s intro was a someone chanting the names of designers like Dolce & Gabbana and Prada.

Especially lame since Chicks On Speed already went down that road with their cute little “Fashion Is For Fashion People” track 4-5 years ago.  And they did it without namedropping any lame designers every idiot in Podunk, Idaho, already knows about.

Also agree that Leggings Are Not Pants, and really really hoping waterfall bangs don’t make a comeback.

Comment #59: The Opoponax  on  03/21  at  10:37 AM

It’s not just in popular music, but you see it in television, movies, books, etc.

There’s a Smashing Pumpkins song in some commercial that comes on all the time here, and every time I hear it my main thought is, “nooooooooo! I’m not old yet! Stop the ride! I want to get offfffffffff!”

I also had a weird run-in in a clothing store where I had to promise the girl in the next dressing room over that the floral babydoll dress she was trying on was NOT too Reality Bites, and she should definitely get it, and how weird that early 90’s fashion is making a comeback…

Comment #60: The Opoponax  on  03/21  at  10:48 AM

but the queer girls are rocking the overcoats and mullets like nobody’s business. i don’t know if i am pro or con. up until a few months ago, i hated (!!) mullets. But seeing the dyke-y andro punk mullets in my neighborhood is sorta changing my mind…

It’s all in the shape of the mullet.  Hockey hair and/or the Billy Ray Cyrus?  No.  Something that looks like something Carol Brady would have rocked?  No.  Well, probably not - in the right hands it could be brilliant.  What you want is something a little more Euro, more punk, more arty.  Like you let a friend run loose with the scissors just to see what happened. 

I have a low hairline in back which grows faster than the rest of my hair, and I’m thinking about just giving in and sporting some kind of mullet-esque asymmetricality.  I mean, as long as it’s stylish, why not?

Comment #61: The Opoponax  on  03/21  at  11:10 AM

Hey, if the 90’s come back, does that mean that the 80’s alternative box set I’ve been long lusting after will finally go down in price?

Comment #62: damnedyankee  on  03/21  at  11:23 AM

I’d like the Specials to reunite and the two-tone revival to happen. Everything else I liked from the 80s is back already.

Comment #63: elena  on  03/21  at  01:30 PM

Well, the part of the 1980s I want to come back are surging conservatism and the Reagan Administration, though I’d guess that this isn’t what Amanda had in mind!  smile

I’m a blue jeans and work shirts and boots kind of guy, and I don’t even remember what was supposed to be in fashion back in the 80s.  Heck, I’m not even certain what’s supposed to be in fashion now, other than I absolutely hate the look that men’s shorts come half-way down their calves now.  Whoever decided that that looked good?

However, Caren wrote:

No cowl necked sweaters.

My wife had several of those, but they dated from the late 70s; we were married in 1979.  I remember this because when she’d pull one on, the neck would be stretched over her head, covering her face, and I’d grab her nose through the cowl-neck.  Somehow, she wasn’t terribly amused.

Comment #64: Dana  on  03/21  at  02:01 PM

All you need to do to know that the 80’s SHOULD NOT COME BACK is watch About Last Night. Those oversized clothes managed to make Demi Moore look terrible. And Elizabeth Perkins looked like she was 40. There was nothing good about that time fashion-wise.  Leave it buried.

Comment #65: kajey  on  03/21  at  03:29 PM

Also:  No Gunne Sax! That’s more early 80’s, but come on!  Grown women in ruffles?  That cannot be revived!

Comment #66: kajey  on  03/21  at  03:37 PM

I <} gunnesax!  When I was 15.

Here’s something fun: I went to college in 1984 and my parents moved from the trailer to a real house with real closets in 1988.

My mother, packrat that she was, apparently stashed a whole bunch of shit from my tiny room in a closet that is now in my Aunt’s room.  The rods and stuff in that closet collapsed and my aunt found all this stuff in the back when she cleaned it out to get a closet system.

I’m headed back home for work reasons in May ... and I’m going to go through the 1980s time capsule!  Should be fun.

Yes, there were Gunnesax dresses in there - auntie already gave them to the girl across the street.

Comment #67: Ms Kate  on  03/21  at  04:32 PM

Artists whose musical output was dramatically better before the 1980s than during the 1980’s:

Stevie Wonder
The Ramones
The Clash
The Rolling Stones
Miles Davis
Jaco Pastorious
James Brown
David Bowie
Elvis Costello
Sting
Randy Newman
Anyone involved in Parliament/Funkadelic
The Talking Heads (N.B. 1980 is still part of “the 1970’s”)
99% of soul/R&B;artists
100% of country artists

Artists whose musical output was dramatically better during the 1980’s than before the 1980’s:

Prince

The prosecution rests.

Comment #68: DJA  on  03/21  at  05:16 PM

I just like the 80’s retro trend because my middle aged brain finds it comforting to be surrounded by fashions and sounds that are comfortingly familiar.

Makes me think I magically escaped pop cultural obsolescence.  An illusion, but I like it! smile

BTW, you needn’t go any farther than M83 to prove that even the overprocessed sounds of the era are beautiful when presented the right way.

Comment #69: Dr. Locrian  on  03/22  at  06:29 PM
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