There aren’t many Muslims in PA.

It wasn’t written at all, it was transcribed*.  So not only does it have to be true Arabic, but spoken like true Arabic.  Supposedly you have to go to the boonies in Yemen to get properly trained.

*if you accept the whole grand poohbahness of it all in the first place.  Trivia: poohbah comes from PBUH, which is Peace Be Upon Him, which is supposed to be said or written after mentioning a certain prophet.

I heard that the Bible was written in Jew, Greek, and Catholic before God told King James to translate it into His favorite language, Old English.

But that can’t be true, can it?...

The problem with this kind of stoopid is that it doesn’t just burn your eyes or your stomach—it burns little children to death in their beds.

Ah, hold on.  The UofN-Lincoln wants to give a talk on Islam and they hire a former, fundie failure senator from PA?  What am I missing here?

”—it burns little children to death in their beds.”

...it’s okay, because god told us to rain white phosphorus down on those little brown IslamoFascists.  If they didn’t want that, why didn’t they become good white christians like everybody else…?

Ah, hold on.  The UofN-Lincoln wants to give a talk on Islam and they hire a former, fundie failure senator from PA?  What am I missing here?

It’s even worse than that- the article says he’s TOURING college campuses with this garbage.

But at he same time, maybe also not as bad as you think- I’m assuming the invitations come from rightard student groups, not from administrations. At least I sure as hell hope so, or else some heads need to roll.

“A democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law”

The US founding fathers—even deists like Jefferson—believed that there was a Natural Law established by the creator and enforceable through the Courts as Common Law.  This view only went out of fashion at the beginning of the 20th Century, through the writings of Roscoe Pound and Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., and through decisions like Erie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins, 304 U.S. 64 (1938).

The Christian right still believes in Natural Law, and does not regard sttutes or decisions in conflict with their ideas of Natural Law as legitimate.  Santorum, of course, is a leading proponant of this view.

As we all know, the right is all about projection, and this is just another example.

Yay, I used to live in PA and I’m so glad that I got to vote to get rid of him and it worked.  Sometimes democracy works very well.  It’s bad that he got elected in the first place, but I can’t take responsibility for that because I wasn’t allowed to vote then because of my age.

*sings*

Cos little Ricky, Ricky won’t go home
But you can’t push Ricky round
Ricky won’t go, try tellin’ everybody but, oh no
Little Ricky, Ricky won’t go home

“I heard that the Bible was written in Jew, Greek, and Catholic before God told King James to translate it into His favorite language, Old English. “

Urk! English pedant overtaking rational thoughts! Aaaaaaaaaaaarghhh…..!!!

Ahem. Pardon me for the most inexcusable outburst. I do believe that you will find, however, that the King James Bible is written in Early Modern English, the approximate tongue of Shakespeare and Elizabeth I (I say approximate because spelling really was optional in those days). Old English is the language of Beowulf and the Anglo-Saxons.

But that should hardly be considered to stand in the way of your most excellent point. Next thing you know we’ll be talking about alignment languages out of the basic set of Dungeons & Dragons.

Thank you. That is all.

Hhhuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggg ... o thank god thats over I never want to think like that again sorry everybody its like the hulk you kno?

Islamic, Arabic, who cares? It’s a distinction without a difference, you liberal pedants, because all muslims are arabs. Oh, wait.

@Falconer - maybe the alignment languages are relevant here?  Santorum seems perfectly fluent in Lawful Stupid.

Actually Paul I think you may have hit on what Little Ricky here is all confused about. I mean, he’s talking about there being no “Middle Eastern” or “Islamic” democracies while Turkey is just sitting there in Anatolia being ignored. Turkey is democratic (ostensibly at least) and is in the Middle East (by any definition of the term) but what it is not is majority Arabic.

Modern Republicans can’t even do racism well. What is this country coming too!?

I thought there was another democracy that was majority Muslim.  In-..., Indo-..., in domine…  Something like that.  Some place with brown people in it.

Golly what could it be?

And don’t forget that there are European Muslims as well.  Not only the Turks (Turkey is in both in Asia and Europe). There’s Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania and Bulgaria as well.

And scholars now refer to “Old English” as “Anglo-Saxon.” The English of the KJV is “Jacobean”.

Compulsive pedantry disorder or CPD is a terrible syndrome for which no effective medication has been found.

If your santorum is burning people, you might want to change your diet. Or look up Charles Xavier.

(What, nobody else felt like an anal sex and comic books joke this morning?)

Thank you Dan Savage, for the practice of naming things after right wingers. Saddlebacking is even better

I rather like the BBC commenter who pooh-poohed the idea that Christianity and Islam were different: “they’re both Judaism with the jokes taken out”.

If your santorum is burning people, you might want to change your diet. Or look up Charles Xavier.

Good advice for all of those saddlebacking teens.

UNL’s not exactly liberal, but this:

Santorum also gave the audience a lecture on Islam. When he asked the audience who knew the difference between the Sunnis and the Shi’ites, three audience members raised their hands. Santorum said this proved his point – America has been at war with Islam for seven years and doesn’t know the two branches.

Santorum said he supported the war when it was unpopular because he thinks not fighting could destroy western civilization. He said he believes that Muslims are America’s enemy because they read their religion literally and apply it to real life, instead of in historical context.

The lecture continued when Santorum pointed out what he thought were the main differences between Christians and Muslims. Santorum said Christians, who believe in Jesus Christ, never governed or conquered anyone, but Mohammed was a warrior and killed people.

Santorum said he believes Muslims’ religious views cannot be changed or altered, so Middle Easterners reject American, democratic ideals.

That’s the lead up to the main quote, and whole another level of stupid in between.  I’m surprised that the audience didn’t start throwing vegetables.

Okay, a) who the fuck would hire Rick Santorum to lecture on Islam, and b) what tortured logic does he use to sidestep the fact that Christians believe the Bible is perfect just the way it is.

Side note: When I began studying Hebrew, my not-quite-politically-correct grandmother’s response was, “Is it true you’re learning to speak Jewish?”

Ugh. I’m almost ashamed to be an alumna of UNL. Not that I wasn’t before after the Ayers debacle, but really UNL? If they wanted someone to give a lecture about Islam, they could have asked nearly anyone in their wonderful Classics and Religious Studies department. I can imagine just about all of my former professors were screaming inside when this was announced.

And here I thought that Idiocracy was just a movie.

CHristians? Never governed or conquered anyone?

What. The. Fuck?!?

How can he ignore over a thousand years of European history?

How can he ignore over a thousand years of European history?

Because he thinks his audience was born yesterday.

How can he ignore over a thousand years of European history?

The same way he can ignore that his head is stuck firmly up his ass.  He’s Rick Santorum.  His mind’s made up, don’t confuse him with facts.  Or with someone who knows facts.

The high point of my moving back to PA was voting to finally get his bone-stupid self out of office.

I rather like the BBC commenter who pooh-poohed the idea that Christianity and Islam were different: “they’re both Judaism with the jokes taken out”.

This sounds so much like something My Boyfriend Simon Schama would say, and he is an occasional BBC commentator, so I’ve decided he definitely must have said this.

Also, to the folks talking about what language the KJV was written in—I thought that was the point MikeEss was making.  Old English is to KJV as Islamic is to Koran?

The lecture continued when Santorum pointed out what he thought were the main differences between Christians and Muslims. Santorum said Christians, who believe in Jesus Christ, never governed or conquered anyone, but Mohammed was a warrior and killed people.

Santorum said he believes Muslims’ religious views cannot be changed or altered, so Middle Easterners reject American, democratic ideals.

Ow fuck I just snorted tofu out my nose.

Uh, guys, I think MikeEss knows that there are no such languages as “Jew” and “Catholic,” and that King James spoke Modern English.  It’s, like, satire.  Swift didn’t really eat babies either.

Em, I teach in Philadelphia, and it’s chock full of Muslim youths.  Some of them are better at English or Swahili or Urdu than Arabic, however.

“Uh, guys, I think MikeEss knows that there are no such languages as “Jew” and “Catholic,” and that King James spoke Modern English.”

...god I hope so…

I was trying to make a couple points, first, reinforcing the observation that Santorum is a lot more than a few sandwichs short of a picnic, and second, the mongrel ancestry of the Christian Bible is nothing to brag about, especially if you’re denigrating the Quran by implying that it is falsely considered perfect by the unthinking barbarous hordes of Mooslims…

Oh.My.Dog.

We can’t even have edumacated racists in this country!

I rather like the BBC commenter who pooh-poohed the idea that Christianity and Islam were different: “they’re both Judaism with the jokes taken out”.

That’s brilliant seeker!  Where did you find that?

Islamic is so a language. Jihad means hello, goodbye, and I love you.

Because he thinks his audience was born yesterday.

Well, most were born again yesterday.

The lecture continued when Santorum pointed out what he thought were the main differences between Christians and Muslims.

Wait, didn’t Chris Rock do this sketch, like, 10 years ago?

Oh snap!  And here I was telling everybody I’m an Arabic minor.  I should tell my professor about that we need to change the class name to Islamic…

The lecture continued when Santorum pointed out what he thought were the main differences between Christians and Muslims. Santorum said Christians, who believe in Jesus Christ, never governed or conquered anyone, but Mohammed was a warrior and killed people.

Besides the already pointed out conquering stuff (C’mon Little Ricky!  The Crusades?)  Muslims most certainly do believe in Jesus Christ.  They don’t believe he was the Messiah, but they believe he was an important prophet.

Goodness, I’ve had so many cab drivers lecture me on how Christians are soooo much better than Jews because Jesus was such a rocking prophet.  This before they offer to marry me, providing I wear a hijab or burka.

The lecture continued when Santorum pointed out what he thought were the main differences between Christians and Muslims. Santorum said Christians, who believe in Jesus Christ, never governed or conquered anyone, but Mohammed was a warrior and killed people.

OK, I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was poor sentence structure, and they meant that Jesus never governed or conquered, while Mohammad did.

However, God is fucking badass and governed and conquered (and smote) the shit out of people in the Old Testament, and Christians still believe in that, right?

Since I’m sure that an alarming number of fundies think Jesus spoke English, Santorum’s statement comes as no surprise.

“Since I’m sure that an alarming number of fundies think Jesus spoke English, Santorum’s statement comes as no surprise.”

Hell, it was a complete pain for little Jesus to saddle up the dinosaur every morning, to make the trek over to the English teacher’s house.  But when you read the KJV Bible, you can really tell the results were worth it…

Or it might be a slip of the tounge.  I didn’t think Obama really believed their were 57 states either.

This sounds so much like something My Boyfriend Simon Schama would say, and he is an occasional BBC commentator, so I’ve decided he definitely must have said this.

‘Fraid not, Opop.  The Beeb’s “News Quiz from Radio 4”; Schama darling wasn’t a guest.
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=265307784
If my memory is correct, it is the show from Friday February 13 2009

ummeli :
See above comment for where I got it. 

ummeli, Opoponax:
If you don’t have iTunes then contact me through seeker6079 on gmail and I will be glad to send you the mp3s.  I have been listening to them on my PDA and getting some strange looks as I burst out laughing.

and biblical literalists who believe the bible is the literal word of god have the exact same problem.

What? you mean the problem isn’t people who have a different faith, but the absurdly dogmatic who accept no desent among their “perfect” law as set in traditions passed down from the ages?

That can’t be right. The founding fathers would never have intended that.

Why do people keep giving the voted-out, discredited Santorum a platform to continually pull this shit out of his ass?

Because he hates the right people, and to them, that’s all that matters.  Sure, he’s a crazy, stupid, ignorant, hateful bastard with a serious man-on-dog fetish, but who cares?  He hates DEM QUEERZ and DEM BROWN PEEPLEZ, and that’s what’s important to the people who give him a chance to speak.

Rick Santorum (R-PA): Making Dan Quayle sound like a Rhodes Scholar, one utterance at a time.