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The ‘favorite lesbian blogstremist’

I guess we’re all “aberrant-sex activists,” so here’s a little weekend entertainment. Peter LaBarbera and I go way back. I’ve already earned the titles of “vicious anti-Christian lesbian activist” and “nutty lesbian blogger” from the the Illinois-based head of the curiously obsessive Americans for Truth Against Homosexuality, so this is just another endorsement to add to my blog’s left sidebar. He instructs his readers to “check out the hate-filled comments and vile anti-Christian insults that flow liberally on lesbian Pam Spaulding’s blog.” Don’t you think he’d want them to steer clear?

Anyway, the prince of gay bathhouse investigations (and fetish event exposes) and best buddy of Bam Bam “progressives = child sacrificers” Barber was a little late out of the gate on the Rick Warren dustup, but this entry was worth the wait. He and Matt must be smoking/snorting/imbibing strong stuff these days as their fourth-tier organizations scramble to do their end-of-year pickpocketing of wallets of elderly garden-variety “Christians” and brainwashed re-closeted homosexuals.

Tyrants of Tolerance Go After Obama for Inaugural Choice Rick Warren
Aberrant-sex activists demonize affable mega-church pastor as “homophobe” because he supported Prop 8

By blasting Obama for choosing Rick Warren as an Inaugural speaker — and demonizing Warren as a “homophobe”because he supported Prop 8 — homosexual activists are showing the world just how empty their “tolerance” ideology really is.

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Here’s an outstanding release from Pastor Bryan Fischer with the Idaho Values Alliance, an affiliate of American Family Association. Poor Barack Obama: he’s promised the world to one of the most demanding and unreasonable special interest movements on the planet. Imagine blasting the gregarious Warren as a “homophobe” because he supported Prop 8 in California. (Note the incredibly elastic, ever-expanding definition of 

homophobia

.) Our favorite lesbian blog-stremist Pam Spaulding chastises Warren for his “sad bigotry” HERE and hits Warren for“bigotry, small-mindedness and downright ignorance” (Pam and friends know a thing or two about small-mindedness). 

Also - Truth Wins Out's Wayne Besen gets The Peeping Peter hot under the collar as well. Take a look at Peter's tribute

Professional Homosexual Agitator Wayne Besen of the comically named “Truth Wins Out” specializes insmearing Christian groups like AFTAH and ex-homosexual leaders like Greg Quinlan

 

...Porno Pete?
As veteran AFTAH readers know, one of the favorite, ongoing “queer” lies against me is that I am a secret homosexual or, worse, a covert aficionado of (unspeakably evil and revolting) homosexual S&M and pornography. Hence the nasty slam against me concocted by homosexual spinmeister Wayne Besen“Porno Pete.” (I suppose if you use the logic of ‘Wayne’s World,’ someone who exposes abortionists secretly yearns to slaughter innocents in the womb — and Wayne himself, who monitors and exposes allegedly fraudulent “ex-gays” through his comically named Truth Wins Out — is a closeted fundamentalist Christian who TiVos every episode of “The 700 Club” while pretending to fight for Queer Liberation.)
Yep, aside from the murderous Islamic jihadists, it seems nobody hates (or lies) like the Left, and nobody on the Left hates like the homosexual militants. If you doubt me on this, take a detour into Loony Liberal Land for a few minutes and read the comments responding to one of Besen’s attacks on me and Americans For Truth 

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 10:34 PM • (89) Comments

I think this bit from Wayne Besen says it all:

LaBarbera’s former “ex-gay” spokesman, Wade Richards, described, in my book “Anything But Straight,” a trip into LaBarbera’s licentious lair:

Peter was very intense,” Richards said. “The office freaked me out. I had never seen so much gay pornography in my whole life…It was crazy . . .” There were “thousands (of gay magazines)—all kinds. . . ” He said they were “for research . . .

I had no clue what fisting was until I met Peter LaBarbera,” Richards said. “It was a crazy experience.”

In his letter to PlanetOut, LaBarbera tried to justify his obsession. “Yes, I once researched gay events, and still do occasionally, by attending them to get first-hand info.”

The issue I have with him isn’t his “first-hand” account; it’s that he keeps going back for second-, third- and fourth-hand accounts. Has he gleaned any new information from this month’s trip to the tubs? Is there some novel sexual technique he recently discovered that will help him showcase the evils of gay sex to unsuspecting church ladies? If not, than why keep going back?

Comment #1: Pam Spaulding  on  12/20  at  10:52 PM

Wait, you’re not a homophobe for merely kicking homos to the curb at your church?

What is a homophobe from their definition?

Comment #2: Crissa  on  12/20  at  10:55 PM

Um, well for someone who is not homosexual, he sure goes on and on about how not homosexual he is.

Comment #3: Luke  on  12/20  at  10:59 PM

These people think that unless you say the words “I hate homosexuals” you can’t be called a homophobe.

Comment #4: Fatman  on  12/20  at  11:10 PM

I just had my gaydar calibrated and it’s still hitting the rainbow zone for ol’ porno Pete.

Don’t hate yourself for who you are, Peter.

Comment #5: Joseph  on  12/20  at  11:31 PM

homosexual activists are showing the world just how empty their “tolerance” ideology really is

Yet another idiot who confuses “tolerance” with “agreement”.

“Waaaah!  Waaaah!  You’re oppressing me by not agreeing with me! ! !”

Comment #6: Notorious P.A.T.  on  12/20  at  11:37 PM

As veteran AFTAH readers know, one of the favorite, ongoing “queer” lies against me is that I am a secret homosexual or, worse, a covert aficionado of (unspeakably evil and revolting) homosexual S&M;and pornography

“OMG how dear they say I like gay porn! It’s gross! And EVIL! And gross! And! I just to know the ‘ins and outs’”!!!

Sheesssshhhh….
Of all the things a person could be doing with their life… I hope this guy finds out from his g-d that he’s wasted his entire time on earth doing this crap when he could have been actually helping people.

Comment #7: Danica Lefse Queen  on  12/20  at  11:43 PM

The issue I have with him isn’t his “first-hand” account; it’s that he keeps going back for second-, third- and fourth-hand accounts.

LOL

Comment #8: Notorious P.A.T.  on  12/20  at  11:53 PM

By blasting Obama for choosing Rick Warren as an Inaugural speaker — and demonizing Warren as a “homophobe”because he supported Prop 8 — homosexual activists are showing the world just how empty their “tolerance” ideology really is.

WTF?  It’s “intolerant” of us to object to Warren’s intolerance?  But, meanwhile, his—-which goes far beyond supporting Prop H8—-is fine and dandy?

How much does anyone want to bet that if Obama had selected a Muslim to do the invocation—-and not an extremist Muslim of the sort that speaks of the West and Christianity as evil, but a normal, decent, everyday American Muslim religious leader, this guy and others of his ilk would be up in arms about the proposed insult to Christianity and “American values?”  Yet Rick Warren has said things blatantly hostile to LGBT people, has declared us unfit to be a part of his church, and generally made himself objectionable to us, and these active insults to us are not considered justification for us to complain?

But then, I shouldn’t be surprised.  Objecting to people simply going about their own lives while saying they don’t have sufficient cause to object to deliberate injustices against them is conservative modus operandi, and has been since day one.

Comment #9: Kyra  on  12/20  at  11:57 PM

What I never understood is the vile hatred in the trolls Pam acrues. As if she’s actually mean or something.

Sure, Pete gets called out for his excesses, but in terms of actual mean-spiritedness in bloggers, I’ve never gotten anything but the idea that Pam is just the most wonderfully nice person. Like a Canadian Quaker, or a Lesbian Mr. Rogers.

I mean, sure, there’s some mocking of La Barbara, but that’s more to point out the error of his ways, and to let him know that even if he’s scared of it, it’s okay to be gay. Which is pretty different from the “SMOOTH MOVE BEING GAY, UGLY HOMO” schoolyard bullying insults he prefers.

Comment #10: karpad  on  12/21  at  12:52 AM

“The issue I have with him isn’t his “first-hand” account; it’s that he keeps going back for second-, third- and fourth-hand accounts.”

...um, how many hands does Porno Pete have anyway…?

Comment #11: MikeEss  on  12/21  at  01:04 AM

...um, how many hands does Porno Pete have anyway…?

Lest just say he buys lube in 55 gallon drums.

Comment #12: Big Bad Bald Bastard  on  12/21  at  01:54 AM

I love when they think it’s completely inoffensive to take away others’ civil rights, but when we call them homophobic for doing so, it’s a terrible insult. “We’re afraid their marriages will literally destroy society…but we’re not afraid of them.”

Comment #13: Lauren O  on  12/21  at  01:57 AM

I hope this guy finds out from his g-d that he’s wasted his entire time on earth doing this crap when he could have been actually helping people.

Or actually getting fisted.

Comment #14: Shaenon  on  12/21  at  02:14 AM

I’m so sorry about this guy and how horrible he is, but this is also HILARIOUS. I can’t believe how pathetic this organization is. I’m sure Fundies Say The Darndest Things will love it!

Comment #15: Becky  on  12/21  at  02:15 AM

What is it with wingnuts and the repeated use of underlines, boldface, and all caps, anyway?  I find it makes their prose even more unreadable than it already is.

Comment #16: Captain Bathrobe  on  12/21  at  03:49 AM

I’m so glad you reproduced LaBarbera’s HTML formatting in all of its “this is how not to write HTML” glory. It’s like reading a leftover website from 1993 that some 13-year-old wrote for computer science class.

Or he’s just taking pointers from the Time Cube guy.

Comment #17: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  12/21  at  05:12 AM

I’ve never gotten anything but the idea that Pam is just the most wonderfully nice person. Like a Canadian Quaker, or a Lesbian Mr. Rogers.

Oh my! That sounds like a nice counter to The Peter’s endorsement. smile

BTW, a reader made this badge for my left-hand column:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pspauld/BlogPix/Headshots/L5smv9Mg.jpg

Comment #18: Pam Spaulding  on  12/21  at  08:37 AM

Why do these people have so much trouble processing a concept as simple as:
Objecting to someone’s intolerance is not a form of intolerance.
Are they just pretending to be too stupid to understand this, or are they this stupid for real?

Comment #19: Bill S  on  12/21  at  08:46 AM

Someone doth protest too much!!!! Time for a one-on-one conference with Ted Haggard, maybe the two of them can pray away the gay ...

Comment #20: Southern Beale  on  12/21  at  09:42 AM

I find it weird that LaBarbera acts like Rick Warren couldn’t possibly be bigoted because he is “affable” and “gregarious”. I’m sure there were, and still are affable and gregarious racists.

Warren is a bigot because he directly connects homosexuality with pedophilia and bestiality. He is a bigot because he refuses to allow out homosexuals to join his church. Finally, he is a bigot because he wants to deny any and all legal recognition of homosexual relationships.

It doesn’t matter how nice a guy he is, as long as those three things hold, he is a bigot.

Comment #21: penn  on  12/21  at  09:45 AM

It’s a bit scary that this (publicly) repressed creep lives across the street from a grade school. I hope he’s not sharing his research with the kiddies.

Comment #22: chuckling  on  12/21  at  09:47 AM

I first learned about Peter LaBarbera from Salon.com’s “Sinners in the hands of an angry GOP.” LaBarbera was at some family values conference where he read this supposed posting from a gay message board as a way of grossing people out:

“Hey guys, I know this is kind of gross and all, but I was wondering if I’m the only one. I’m usually the bottom in my relationship with my boyfriend. After having been the receptive partner in anal sex it’s only a few hours before I start to experience diarrhea ... it really stinks, because I really like sex, duh, but it takes the fun out of it when I know I’ll be tied to the bathroom for the next day.”

I don’t visit gay message boards but is this really the kind of thing one would see posted in such a place, or is this the kind of thing someone like Peter LaBarbera would make up and pretend he saw on a gay message board? PLB said of the post: ““I don’t think so-called GLBT teens are told anything like this” by their school counselors, LaBarbera said. “We need to find ways to bring shame back to those who are practicing and advocating homosexual behavior.”

What a reprehensible person.

Comment #23: Southern Beale  on  12/21  at  09:53 AM

I love how you don’t even have to read the article, b/c he blows it in the sub-title

Aberrant-sex activists demonize affable mega-church pastor as “homophobe” because he supported Prop 8

*  “Aberrant-sex” instead of LGBT or some neutral phrasing of the same
*  “demonize” instead of “protest”
*  homophobe =/= supporter of Prop 8. when Prop 8 was specifically designed to remove rights from human beings who happen to be LGBT.  A Prop 8 supporter is by definition a “homophobe” or hater of homosexuals et. al.  You don’t get much more hateful than stripping away civil rights.  The only thing worse is physical violence, which is next on the list.

He makes no sense before he even starts.

As for the “affable” part, W was the kind of guy you’d like to have a beer with, as opposed to that stuffed shirt Gore.  Affable W has killed, maimed, orphaned, widowed and displaced over 2 million Iraqis and after billions in rehabilitation, the nation still doesn’t have the functioning electric grid or the water and sewer system it had before we invaded.  The new constitution we had the write up has LESS support for women’s rights that that under Saddam (yes, Saddam was a horrible dictator, but just b/c he violated the constitution doesn’t mean that we should replace it with a WEAKER constitution.  Enforcing the rule of law, when the law is just, is always better).

But, hey, W is still affable, and boy howdy he can dodge shoes.

Hitler should have tried being more affable.  He would have ruled the world for sure.  Cause how can affable men do evil?

Comment #24: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  12/21  at  11:00 AM

But in Village politics (no, not the good Village, or even The Village) affability is to be prized far above honesty or lack of bigotry or even not ordering murders. Because you wouldn’t want to invite someone non-affable to your soiree, would you? And the people LaBarbera is writing for look up to their betters, even if they won’t admit it.

Is there an official kink designation for people who get off on outrage and faux loathing of what fascinates them? A pearl-trimmed hanky, perhaps?

Comment #25: paul  on  12/21  at  12:30 PM

Karpad wrote:

I’ve never gotten anything but the idea that Pam is just the most wonderfully nice person. Like a Canadian Quaker, or a Lesbian Mr. Rogers.

[snort!]  The imagery here is just too much fun!  smile

Comment #26: Dana  on  12/21  at  12:31 PM

Well, Dana, when I was a big fan of Mr Rogers’s Neighborhood, when I was 3-4 years old in 1968 or so, my Dad used to get mad that I was watching “the faggot,” as he characterized him.

Attacks like that, on what appeared to me to be harmless victims, were one factor in my developing conviction that there was something vicious and wrong in conventional “wisdom” re gender roles.

Nowadays it’s pretty easy for me to picture a lesbian counterpart of the late Rev. Fred Rogers—heck, all I have to do is remember some of the sweeter nuns I knew in Catholic school, and just picture them having the freedom to have an acknowledged sex partner, which I would have known nothing about and would have made no difference to me until my Dad gave me the sex briefing when I was in 4th grade.

An openly lesbian, partnered teacher would no doubt have blown my Dad’s fuses, but as I say he was disgruntled enough by the heterosexual, married Rev. Rogers.

So I might smile at the image—a warm smile for a caring, nurturing, spiritually strong role model for children and adults alike—but not snicker.

The snickering is a form of hate, Dana, and it easily leads to worse. What does your Right Reason tell you about that?

Comment #27: Mark Foxwell  on  12/21  at  02:18 PM

Wow, but Porno Pete sure does seem upset: Fonts in four sizes, from three families, in three colors.

THREE COLORS! He’s bringing out the big guns now – and he’s arming those guns with made-up words like “blog-stremist.”

Is it so much to ask that people coin only clever terms, instead of producing dumb word-abortions like “blog-stremist”?

If Porno wishes to go full retard on this issue, however, I’m more than happy to help him out:

* Extremosexual
* Faggist
* Queerrorist
* Homosextremist
* Homocidal
* Hetmonger

Comment #28: The Devil's Advocate  on  12/21  at  03:19 PM

Oh my! That sounds like a nice counter to The Peter’s endorsement.

yeah, feel free to use that as a blurb on the back of a book sometime.

Incidentally, Mr. Rogers is pretty much single handedly the only reason I do not write off the religious categorically.

Also, This is still the thing that fills me with more fury than anything. Ever. I have no words for how vile this is.

Comment #29: karpad  on  12/21  at  05:55 PM

If you’re his favorite lesbian blog-stremist, Pam, who is his least favorite?

Comment #30: Bitter Scribe  on  12/22  at  12:00 AM

You owe “Bam-Bam” a thank you note.

Comment #31: Bruce  on  12/22  at  03:25 AM

Even though I’m straight, I’d kinda like to be a Queerorist!

It sounds so impressive & scary!

Comment #32: atheist  on  12/22  at  03:34 AM

* Extremosexual
* Faggist
* Queerrorist
* Homosextremist
* Homocidal
* Hetmonger

You’re forgetting homosexualist and Islamosexual.

Comment #33: Rugged in Montana  on  12/22  at  06:06 AM

Man, this LaBarbera fellow presents many symptoms of Craig-Haggard Syndrome, doesn’t he? I know life is tough (to say the least) in many ways for “out” GLBT people in America, but I can’t imagine it being as personally exhausting as living a public lie 24/7 for one’s whole life. That’s the stuff of chronic depression, anxiety, stomach ulcers. or worse.

Incidentally, Mr. Rogers is pretty much single handedly the only reason I do not write off the religious categorically.

From the article, this is particular is why the Faux News and Xtian bigot crowd hated Fred Rogers:

5. He Might Have Been the Most Tolerant American Ever
Mister Rogers seems to have been almost exactly the same off-screen as he was onscreen. As an ordained Presbyterian minister, and a man of tremendous faith, Mister Rogers preached tolerance first. Whenever he was asked to castigate non-Christians or gays for their differing beliefs, he would instead face them and say, with sincerity, “God loves you just the way you are.” Often this provoked ire from fundamentalists.

Here’s one of the best things I’ve read about Fred Rogers, from a commenter named “Pastabagel” on Metafilter.

Comment #34: Gracchus  on  12/22  at  11:27 AM

<blockuote>* Extremosexual
* Faggist
* Queerrorist
* Homosextremist
* Homocidal
* Hetmonger</blockquote>

Don’t forget the sleeper cels of Al-Gayda (with thanks to Margaret Cho)

Comment #35: MAJeff, God of Biscuits  on  12/22  at  12:56 PM

Al-Gayda? Isn’t that the guy that married Star Jones?

I’ll show myself out.

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