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The final sadistic throes of Darth Cheney: ‘Guantanamo Has Been Well Run’

Jeebus H. Christ, January 20—where are you?!

Vice President Dick Cheney crawled out of his undisclosed location to do an imaginary victory lap in the MSM, and big surprise, he made an appearance on hillbilly heroin devotee Rush Limbaugh’s show to reiterate his believe that conditions at the detention facility at Guantanamo were A-OK. (Obama has promised to close it). Via Think Progress (it has audio):

  CHENEY: I think so. I think Guantanamo has been very well run. I think if you look at it from the perspective of the requirements we had, once you go out and capture a bunch of terrorists, as we did in Afghanistan and elsewhere, then you’ve got to have some place to put them. If you bring them here to the U.S. and put them in our local court system, then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens. […]

  So Guantanamo has been very, very valuable. And I think they’ll discover that trying to close it is a very hard proposition.

Amanda Terkel notes:

Guantanamo is not well-run, and its presence is putting U.S. servicemembers at risk rather than saving lives. As former Navy general counsel Alberto Mora has explained, Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib are “the first and second identifiable causes of U.S. combat deaths in Iraq.”

Cheney also said this about the expansion of executive powers during Bush’s reign of terror.

“Once they get here and they’re faced with the same problems we deal with every day, then they will appreciate some of the things we’ve put in place,” Cheney said during an interview on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show.

“We did not exceed our constitutional authority, as some have suggested,” Cheney insisted. “The President believes, I believe very deeply, in a strong executive, and I think that’s essential in this day and age. And I think the Obama administration is not likely to cede that authority back to the Congress. I think they’ll find that given a challenge they face, they’ll need all the authority they can muster.”

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 10:10 AM • (24) Comments

If you bring them here to the U.S. and put them in our local court system, then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.

No, rights aren’t just for American citizens.  Priveleges are, but not rights.  Rights are something EVERY human being is born with—it’s self evident, if you aren’t an evil fucker who deserves to spend the rest of his life in a small cell.  He really believes torture is just fine and dandy.

Poor Joe Biden has the most thankless, yet important, role.  He has to make the VP role one of waiting in the wings again.  Visiting dignitaries at funerals.  Glad-handing while powerless.  It’s a particularly hard thing to give up power, but that power was stolen.  There is no 4th branch of government.  The VP is not supposed to make laws or shepherd policy.  Returning to sanity means Joe has to just sit there, but sitting there powerless as the VP is going to be one of the most important functions in this administration.

Comment #1: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  12/17  at  10:26 AM

If only American Citizens get those rights then Cheney had nothing to fear, because only a couple were American citizens (who should get those rights regardless…correct?).

However, if, as Caren says, humans get those rights, and not just Americans, then you’re admitting what you did is illegal.

You can’t have it both ways Darth, and some day there might be a tribunal in The Hague to prove we’re right and you’re wrong.

Hell’s awesome and terrible gaping maw awaits your shriveled soul (and Bush’s, and Condi’s, and Rummy’s, etc.)...

Comment #2: MikeEss  on  12/17  at  10:38 AM

Word just in - Dante has arisen and is writing sequel to Inferno.  Wherein added circles of hell are prepared for neocons and wingnuts.

Comment #3: phylosopher  on  12/17  at  11:07 AM

And from The Guardian:

He referred to a comment from Hillary Clinton likening him to the Star Wars character Darth Vader. “I asked my wife about that, if that didn’t bother her. She said, no, it humanises you.”

Yup, in order to humanise Dick Cheney, you have to compare him to the epitome of evil.

Comment #4: Dunc  on  12/17  at  12:18 PM

“Barack, I am your father . . .”

Oh, no!

Comment #5: rea  on  12/17  at  12:32 PM

A New Hope? Oh dear, I don’t like where this is going… Maybe his birth certificate is a forgery.

Comment #6: Dunc  on  12/17  at  01:00 PM

it humanises you

Since the election, time seems to have taken on a weird molasses-like quality, where each day lasts a week, and weeks are months long. It will pass, I know, but… shoe-throwing… self-congratulatory “legacy campaigns”... Cheney claims Gitmo’s a wonderful vacation spot…

The ten minutes I took to read the post and comment? Forty-eight hours long.

Comment #7: Neddie Jingo  on  12/17  at  01:01 PM

Well, I might rise to the level of appreciation for FISA, Gitmo, the Patriot Act, rendition, waterboarding, and no habeas corpus if they’re used to keep the domestic Christian terrorists from bombing nightclubs, sporting events, and health clinics; murdering American citizens; and terrorizing Americans to advance their political agendas.  If these tools are used to monitor certain activities, get suspects to admit to their crimes and reveal their funding sources and those who conspire with them, maybe then.  If we confiscate all their assets to help fund the system that finds them.

Look, we know these people will use bombs and set things on fire.  We know they think hunting humans is ordained by their god.  We know they use the threat of biological warfare such as anthrax to terrorize Americans.  These people are everywhere, and they very well could work in military labs.  They could have access to WMDs.  One of them could be planning to nuke a major American city right now.  We know how much they hate those “liberal” cities. 

I just think, well, what I mean to say is that I might be a bit relieved to know that something is being done about it.  It would be a nice change as opposed to the coddling and pep rallies the Republicans hold for the domestic Christian terrorists.

A unitary exective with lots of executive privilege for national security reasons.  Sure, why not.  If it’s to fight terrorists and terrorism on American soil.

Oh, I also recall during my travels around the FISA reading that most “triggers” are conversations about guns.  I don’t own any, so why should I care?

I’ve learned a lot from the Neocons.  I can see Dick’s perspective. 

Snark?  I’m not sure yet.  Cheney is mesmerizing.

Comment #8: JB  on  12/17  at  02:20 PM

I meant to write, “godless” liberal cities.  You know, the ones the domestic Christian terrorists claim are destroying America.

Comment #9: JB  on  12/17  at  02:24 PM

then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.

that says it all right there. only americans are actual humans. fuck darth cheney.

Comment #10: chibi  on  12/17  at  02:48 PM

Read Angler, you’ll have nightmares.

Comment #11: Ben D.  on  12/17  at  02:58 PM

Maybe they compare him to Vader on the right. On the left, I always thought we compared him to Palpatine.

Comment #12: Brian X  on  12/17  at  03:07 PM

If he’s Palpatine, though, wouldn’t that make George W. Bush Vader? I can’t see that. I see W. as Jar-Jar.

Comment #13: Ben D.  on  12/17  at  03:09 PM

Run? No. Hidden? Yes.

Comment #14: Ms Kate  on  12/17  at  03:09 PM

I think the Obama administration will appreciate the things Bush/Cheney put into place. Once they start tapping the phones of the republican enemy, declaring anti-choice Christians to be enemy combatants, holding members of the previous administration w/o habeus recourse, and so on.

Comment #15: M. Peachbush  on  12/17  at  03:13 PM

You whiney DEMONcraps know that Gitmo is like a resort, so just shut up about it.  Who wouldn’t love to be on a tropical island, being served free food while living in a dog kennel environment?

Comment #16: Rugged in Montana  on  12/17  at  04:36 PM

This man is vile, reprehensible and a disgrace to our country. He should be indicted.

If the Bush years remain too controversial a gold mine of suspicions for indictable offenses - such as torture by the USA, rendering people to torturers in other countries, kidnaping, illegal detention and transportation - I suggest a probe of the extent of his involvement in other crimes against humanity. We could start by finding out the extent of his involvement with Videla in Argentina, as Ford’s Chief of Staff.

Comment #17: Luke  on  12/17  at  04:42 PM

If you bring them here to the U.S. and put them in our local court system, then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.

Shorter Dick—If we’d brought them to America, we couldn’t have tortured ‘em.

And American citizens are so exceptional that they are entitled to all kinds of rights that the rabble of the rest of the world does not deserve ... like ... life, liberty, property, or due process before the surrender of any of these.

And the Pres., et al., wonder why so much of the rest of the world hates Americans and their “exceptional” status, rights, and freedoms.  Suuch a mystery.

Comment #18: blondie  on  12/17  at  06:16 PM

then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.

Every time. Every time I think I’ve seen the last Republican official who’s never picked up a copy of the Constitution, fate has to prove me wrong.

Comment #19: Rebecca  on  12/17  at  07:15 PM

Good Christ, Cheney truly lives in another reality than the rest of us.

Comment #20: CHV  on  12/17  at  09:35 PM

I’m trying to figure out, at this date, whether Cheney is delusional enough to believe anything he’s saying or just likes to epater les sane people. Aha! that’s it: he’s preparing an insanity defense.

Comment #21: paul  on  12/17  at  10:14 PM

A unitary exective with lots of executive privilege for national security reasons.  Sure, why not.  If it’s to fight terrorists and terrorism on American soil.

Oh, I also recall during my travels around the FISA reading that most “triggers” are conversations about guns.  I don’t own any, so why should I care?

I’ve learned a lot from the Neocons.  I can see Dick’s perspective. 

Snark?  I’m not sure yet.  Cheney is mesmerizing.

JB on 12/17 at 12:20 PM

There’s a word for people like you. The word is slave.

Comment #22: atheist  on  12/17  at  10:26 PM

If you bring them here to the U.S. and put them in our local court system, then they are entitled to all kinds of rights that we extend only to American citizens.

It gives me chills to think that this man has been Vicepresident of the US.  It’s OK if he didn’t attend any school of law, but given his position the consequences of such lack of knowledge could be disastrous… oh wait, that already are.

Comment #23: elgie  on  12/18  at  04:11 AM

It was well-run! It was excellent at accomplishing the actual agenda behind the place - dehumanizing people with dark skin, catering to the Republican Party racist/sexist/homophobic/TERRISTS! base, setting the precedent for secret trials and the stripping of due process… Yeah, extremely well run.

Comment #24: Renee  on  12/18  at  09:37 PM
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