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The invisible, inaudible Bishop Gene Robinson

If you were channel surfing to catch HBO’s inaugural concert coverage at the Lincoln Memorial where openly gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson delivered the invocation, you didn’t see him. Remember, this was the supposed salve on the wound to the LGBT community for the upcoming high-profile appearance of Rick Warren at the actual inauguration on Tuesday, which will be seen by millions and will float out there on YouTube in perpetuity. I had no illusions that Robinson’s appearance would reach the same level of exposure as Warren’s, but damn—no broadcast of it at all? That’s just freaking rich.

Leah McElrath Renna at HuffPost reports that some fundies showed up to protest Robinson’s appearance. These folks were “Brother Ruben and the Official Street Preachers” since they didn’t even bother to come up with original signs.

With a diverse and otherwise joyous crowd of adults and children of all ages streaming by, the three protest participants shouted about hate, hell and “homo-sex” - using a megaphone to assert that “homosexuals are eternally damned” and “Jesus doesn’t love homosexuals.”

On its website, the group claims to “preach a loving message to sodomites. We tell them the truth, that unless they repent they shall likewise perish in Hell Fire!”

Kenny Yum of the Canada’s National Post was liveblogging the event and reported that many there couldn’t even hear Robinson (mic problems?) and were shouting “We can’t hear you.”

The exclusion from the broadcast was a decision made by the Obama Presidential Inaugural team,

not the cable network

, btw (AfterElton):

Contacted Sunday night by AfterElton.com concerning the exclusion of Robinson’s prayer, HBO said via email, “The producer of the concert has said that the Presidential Inaugural Committee made the decision to keep the invocation as part of the pre-show.” Uncertain as to whether or not that meant that HBO was contractually prevented from airing the pre-show, we followed up, but none of the spokespeople available Sunday night could answer that question with absolute certainty. However, it does seem that the network’s position is that they had nothing to do with the decision.

Sarah Pulliam of Christianity Today did shoot video and posted it:

UPDATE (1/19. 3:30 PM ET): HBO, Presidential Inaugural Committee still pointing fingers over invisible Robinson invocation

Via Leah McElrath Renna @ HuffPost:

Coming on the heels of the controversy caused by selection of Rick Warren to deliver the Invocation at the Inauguration, the omission of the prayer delivered by openly-gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson from the broadcast of the pre-Inaugural concert at the Lincoln Memorial is creating a controversy of its own.

In a conversation with this writer, Jeff Cusson, Senior Vice President for Corporate Affairs for HBO, confirmed that HBO was not involved in the decision to move Bishop Robinson’s remarks to a time prior to the beginning of the actual broadcast:

“HBO had no involvement in the scheduling of those who appeared as part of the televised event. You’ll have to talk to PIC about all of the scheduling decisions. We had a set broadcast time and went forth accordingly.”

I just received a statement from the Obama camp/Presidential Inaugural Committee:

“We had always intended and planned for Rt. Rev. Robinson’s invocation to be included in the televised portion of yesterday’s program.  We regret the error in executing this plan – but are gratified that hundreds of thousands of people who gathered on the mall heard his eloquent prayer for our nation that was a fitting start to our event,” said PIC communications director Josh Earnest.

Take that for what it’s worth.

Bishop Robinson was on NPR’s Talk of the Nation today. The audio, according to the web site, will be up around 6PM ET.

I thought I’d run some reactions from the blogosphere…

Lisa Derrick of La Figa:

I got off of the plane from LA to DC, rushed to my friend’s house, ordered Chinese take out, tuned to HBO—and WTF?! They edited out Bishop Robinson! No Bishop Robinson?! Why? We can speculate, they can prevaricate, but they did this, and it sucks, and if this is act symbolizes the opening of Obama’s administration, as handled by corporate media, America, we are fucked.

Jim Burroway, Box Turtle Bulletin:

[B]y pointing out that Rev. Robinson’s invocation would come at the start of the HBO-aired live concert in front of one of America’s best-loved memorials, this high-profile announcement was portrayed as a separate-but-almost-equal bookend to Warren’s invocation at the Capital steps.

Well, except it turned out not to be nearly so equal. In yet another deep insult to injury, HBO did not air Rev. Robinson’s invocation. The salve to the gay community meant to calm the outrage over Warren’s selection was for naught.

Mike Tidmus:

Could it be that the American media has finally decided these public events should be 100% secular? Don’t count on it, friends, because you know as well as I do that pop-pastor Rick Warren will be front and center and at full volume to kick off President-Elect Obama’s formal Inauguration on Tuesday.

Dan Savage::

When you’re throwing folks a bone it’s a good idea to make sure they can, you know, see the bone.

More at: Joe.My.God, Good As You, Queerty and many more.

If you want to read Robinson’s prayer in full, it’s below the fold.
From the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire web site. The video was shot by Christianity Today.

A Prayer for the Nation and Our Next President, Barack Obama

By The Rt. Rev. V. Gene Robinson, Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire

Opening Inaugural Event
Lincoln Memorial, Washington, DC
January 18, 2009

Welcome to Washington!  The fun is about to begin, but first, please join me in pausing for a moment, to ask God’s blessing upon our nation and our next president.

O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will…

Bless us with tears – for a world in which over a billion people exist on less than a dollar a day, where young women from many lands are beaten and raped for wanting an education, and thousands die daily from malnutrition, malaria, and AIDS.

Bless us with anger – at discrimination, at home and abroad, against refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

Bless us with discomfort – at the easy, simplistic “answers” we’ve preferred to hear from our politicians, instead of the truth, about ourselves and the world, which we need to face if we are going to rise to the challenges of the future.

Bless us with patience – and the knowledge that none of what ails us will be “fixed” anytime soon, and the understanding that our new president is a human being, not a messiah.

Bless us with humility – open to understanding that our own needs must always be balanced with those of the world.

Bless us with freedom from mere tolerance – replacing it with a genuine respect and warm embrace of our differences, and an understanding that in our diversity, we are stronger.

Bless us with compassion and generosity – remembering that every religion’s God judges us by the way we care for the most vulnerable in the human community, whether across town or across the world.

And God, we give you thanks for your child Barack, as he assumes the office of President of the United States.

Give him wisdom beyond his years, and inspire him with Lincoln’s reconciling leadership style, President Kennedy’s ability to enlist our best efforts, and Dr. King’s dream of a nation for ALL the people.

Give him a quiet heart, for our Ship of State needs a steady, calm captain in these times.

Give him stirring words, for we will need to be inspired and motivated to make the personal and common sacrifices necessary to facing the challenges ahead.

Make him color-blind, reminding him of his own words that under his leadership, there will be neither red nor blue states, but the United States.

Help him remember his own oppression as a minority, drawing on that experience of discrimination, that he might seek to change the lives of those who are still its victims.

Give him the strength to find family time and privacy, and help him remember that even though he is president, a father only gets one shot at his daughters’ childhoods.

And please, God, keep him safe.  We know we ask too much of our presidents, and we’re asking FAR too much of this one.  We know the risk he and his wife are taking for all of us, and we implore you, O good and great God, to keep him safe.  Hold him in the palm of your hand – that he might do the work we have called him to do, that he might find joy in this impossible calling, and that in the end, he might lead us as a nation to a place of integrity, prosperity and peace.

AMEN.

Barack Obama’s speech at the Lincoln Memorial:

I want to thank all the speakers and performers for reminding us, through song and through words, just what it is that we love about America.  And I want to thank all of you for braving the cold and the crowds and traveling in some cases thousands of miles to join us here today.  Welcome to Washington, and welcome to this celebration of American renewal.

In the course of our history, only a handful of generations have been asked to confront challenges as serious as the ones we face right now.  Our nation is at war.  Our economy is in crisis.  Millions of Americans are losing their jobs and their homes; they’re worried about how they’ll afford college for their kids or pay the stack of bills on their kitchen table.  And most of all, they are anxious and uncertain about the future - about whether this generation of Americans will be able to pass on what’s best about this country to our children and their children.

I won’t pretend that meeting any one of these challenges will be easy.  It will take more than a month or a year, and it will likely take many.  Along the way there will be setbacks and false starts and days that test our fundamental resolve as a nation.

But despite all of this - despite the enormity of the task that lies ahead - I stand here today as hopeful as ever that the United States of America will endure - that the dream of our founders will live on in our time.

What gives me that hope is what I see when I look out across this mall.  For in these monuments are chiseled those unlikely stories that affirm our unyielding faith - a faith that anything is possible in America.  Rising before us stands a memorial to a man who led a small band of farmers and shopkeepers in revolution against the army of an Empire, all for the sake of an idea.  On the ground below is a tribute to a generation that withstood war and depression - men and women like my grandparents who toiled on bomber assembly lines and marched across Europe to free the world from tyranny’s grasp.  Directly in front of us is a pool that still reflects the dream of a King, and the glory of a people who marched and bled so that their children might be judged by their character’s content.  And behind me, watching over the union he saved, sits the man who in so many ways made this day possible.

And yet, as I stand here tonight, what gives me the greatest hope of all is not the stone and marble that surrounds us today, but what fills the spaces in between.  It is you - Americans of every race and region and station who came here because you believe in what this country can be and because you want to help us get there.

It is the same thing that gave me hope from the day we began this campaign for the presidency nearly two years ago; a belief that if we could just recognize ourselves in one another and bring everyone together - Democrats, Republicans, and Independents; Latino, Asian, and Native American; black and white, gay and straight, disabled and not - then not only would we restore hope and opportunity in places that yearned for both, but maybe, just maybe, we might perfect our union in the process.

This is what I believed, but you made this belief real. You proved once more that people who love this country can change it. And as I prepare to assume the presidency, yours are the voices I will take with me every day I walk into that Oval Office - the voices of men and women who have different stories but hold common hopes; who ask only for what was promised us as Americans - that we might make of our lives what we will and see our children climb higher than we did.

It is this thread that binds us together in common effort; that runs through every memorial on this mall; that connects us to all those who struggled and sacrificed and stood here before.

It is how this nation has overcome the greatest differences and the longest odds - because there is no obstacle that can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change.

That is the belief with which we began this campaign, and that is how we will overcome what ails us now.  There is no doubt that our road will be long.  That our climb will be steep.  But never forget that the true character of our nation is revealed not during times of comfort and ease, but by the right we do when the moment is hard.  I ask you to help me reveal that character once more, and together, we can carry forward as one nation, and one people, the legacy of our forefathers that we celebrate today.

Here’s another photo of the sad sack homophobic protestors at the concert, courtesy of Lambda Rising:


The crowd that surrounded them—which seemed to be mostly young straight guys—delighted in chanting “Hate is not a family value” and “Homosex is in!” Some, noting the substantial girth of several of the protesters, chanted “Gluttony is a sin!” and others asked “Isn’t that polyester you’re wearing?”

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 04:09 PM • (56) Comments

Shit, gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins. Homosexuality didn’t even make the list.

Comment #1: Essie the Elephant  on  01/19  at  04:26 PM

Over at Firedoglake, there’s a story claiming that the decision not to air Robinson came from the “inaugural committee”.

i.e. Obama’s people.

If that’s true (and it wouldn’t surprise me), then that really, really does not bode well. On any number of levels.

Comment #2: John D.  on  01/19  at  04:32 PM

I notice that the Mormons made the list of people warned about judgment.

Guess joining your oppressors in the oppression of others only does so much for your popularity, huh?

Comment #3: Kyra  on  01/19  at  04:32 PM

O God of our many understandings.

This is perhaps the first time I’ve heard an official speaker address their deity in such a way that it might refer to mine as well.

Thank you, Bishop Robinson.

Comment #4: Kyra  on  01/19  at  04:43 PM

“Sports Nuts” are going to Hell! Did you hear that, Bears fans? Red Sox fans? Lakers fans?

Awesome, please put these guys on television over and over again.

Comment #5: atheist  on  01/19  at  04:46 PM

Kyra,
That’s been fairly typical of UU at public invocations et al for at least a couple of decades.  Or at least I first heard a UU pastor use it over 25 years ago.  In Idaho.

Comment #6: Helen H  on  01/19  at  04:53 PM

It’s Obama and his team.

Face it, Obama isn’t going to stick up for you when it’s HIS party! Reminds me of Bill Clinton.

Comment #7: DogBreath  on  01/19  at  04:53 PM

The decision to air this on HBO was classist to begin with. Why wasn’t it on broadcast television and not a pay service? Because the poor don’t matter. And GLBTQ people don’t matter. We are going to have to get in the new administration’s face every day to prove that we do.

Comment #8: tata  on  01/19  at  04:56 PM

Amid all the hysteria did nobody in the USA exmine BO’s record. He has a track record for this kind of sneakiness. “Promise them the earth and hand them a pile of dirt.” That’s Obama, he will go with the party that offers him the most personal advantage.

But hey, that’s politics and who would ever be fool enough to think a selof -proclaimed messiah who promised hope and change would ever deliver?

Comment #9: Ian Thorpe  on  01/19  at  05:01 PM

One thing about the HBO broadcast: they made it available to all cable subscribers, not just premium channel subscribers.  I don’t get HBO, but was able to choose to watch it during the live event or the 7:00 or 11:00 pm re-brodcasts, as well as a live-stream on their website.  I was frantically searching for it at about 3:00 yesterday afternoon when I finally figured that out. (I tried CNN and MSNBC, but they were only showing the Biden and Obama speeches.)

Comment #10: MAJeff, God of Biscuits  on  01/19  at  05:07 PM

I’m actually having trouble believing that this was intentional.

Because damn.

Comment #11: jericho  on  01/19  at  05:16 PM

This is just one of many disappointments. Not supporting homosexual marriage, changing on the war, and now this…..and he hasn’t even been sworn in yet!

It’s going to be a long four years.

Comment #12: DogBreath  on  01/19  at  05:17 PM

@Ian Thorpe on 01/19 at 03:01 PM:

Could you provide a link to/cite the quote wherein Obama states “I am the Messiah,” or what have you? “Self-proclaimed” means that an individual has verbally identified themselves as such, usually in a public fashion, so I’m assuming he must have done so at some point. If one of our Presidential candidates or President elect was suffering from messianic delusions, one would think the news would’ve reported on it, but for some reason I never heard anything about it. Thanks!

Comment #13: vervain  on  01/19  at  05:20 PM

It’s going to be a long four years.

Your concern is noted.

Comment #14: atheist  on  01/19  at  05:27 PM

Invisible and inaudible is exactly what “Bishop” Robinson should be.

Comment #15: Gallo-Roman in a time of Salian Franks  on  01/19  at  06:00 PM

Hooka Hooka? EEEEEE!!!

Comment #16: chimpanzee in the time of monkeys  on  01/19  at  06:04 PM

“Invisible and inaudible is exactly what “Bishop” Robinson should be.”

You can always tell the bigots by their barely veiled death threats.

Comment #17: Gypsy Lee  on  01/19  at  06:07 PM

Yeah, those Episcopal bishops aren’t the real thing.

Wait - you mean GRiatoSF wasn’t referring to the Episcopal/Catholic divide? What else could he be referring to - seeing as how the man went through the usual Episcopal process plus some.

Comment #18: Tapetum  on  01/19  at  06:20 PM

The situation certainly sucks. Hopefully Obama will do better on GLBT issues in the future.

Comment #19: atheist  on  01/19  at  06:21 PM

“You can always tell the bigots by their barely veiled death threats.”

Polish your crystal ball cuz’ it ain’t workin’ dimbulb.

Comment #20: Gallo-Roman in a time of Salian Franks  on  01/19  at  06:26 PM

It’s normal for the live feed for an event to be broadcast to go quiet prior to going live.  They may also have been switching over from the mikes going to the PA only, to them going to HBO and then re-routing to the PA.

That doesn’t make it less of a fuckup that the prayer itself was then not going over the PA to the audience.  Apparently others who presented before the broadcast portion were heard through the PA.

If he was supposed to be before the broadcast, he should have been scheduled to appear before the audio blackout period and everyone should have known.  If he was supposed to be in the broadcast, he should have been in the broadcast.

Whoever was responsible for this should be fired.  That is what happens in the media business.  It doesn’t matter if it was accidental or intentional.  It doesn’t matter if the person has a good excuse, is very sorry, or anything else.  Fuck up, get fired.

Comment #21: oldfeminist  on  01/19  at  06:32 PM

Whoever was responsible for this should be fired.

You want to fire Obama??

Comment #22: DogBreath  on  01/19  at  06:35 PM

“Polish your crystal ball cuz’ it ain’t workin’ dimbulb. “

*lol* aww, isn’t that cute, the death-threatening bigot can’t spell.

Comment #23: Gypsy Lee  on  01/19  at  06:40 PM

“Bless us with anger at discrimination, at home…, against… gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

The good Rev. Gene Robinson’s prayers have been answered.
I’m angered, are you?

Comment #24: Anthony Look  on  01/19  at  06:42 PM

“*lol* aww, isn’t that cute, the death-threatening bigot can’t spell. “

Point out the alleged mistake dimbulb.

Comment #25: Gallo-Roman in a time of Salian Franks  on  01/19  at  06:49 PM

“Point out the alleged mistake dimbulb.”

Big boys do their own homework, bigot.  Go real slow and take lots of breaks. We don’t want your three brain cells exploding from overwork.

Comment #26: Gypsy Lee  on  01/19  at  06:54 PM

Ignore the trolls, folks.

Comment #27: MAJeff, God of Biscuits  on  01/19  at  07:00 PM

“Big boys do their own homework, bigot.  Go real slow and take lots of breaks. We don’t want your three brain cells exploding from overwork. “

In other words, you can’t because there is no mistake therein. Really, I was convinced of your mediocrity before; there is no need to demonstrate it further.

Comment #28: Gallo-Roman in a time of Salian Franks  on  01/19  at  07:02 PM

“Ignore the trolls, folks. “

Okay, okay.  Apologies. But look how easy it was to distract him!

Comment #29: Gypsy Lee  on  01/19  at  07:03 PM

If Robinson weren’t openly gay the fundies would still have their undies in a bunch over his prayer to “god of our many understandings”. Because it’s only their understanding of god that matters.

Comment #30: Molly  on  01/19  at  07:06 PM

Well, I did my homework, and looked up the website of the Presidential Inaugural Committee, which plainly states on its website that it operates

at the direction of President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden,

and that it will

organize an inclusive and accessible inauguration that reflects the new Administration’s commitment to leadership that sets aside partisanship and unites the nation around our shared values and ideals.

Congratulations: you’ve been triangulated!

Comment #31: Dana  on  01/19  at  07:09 PM

I missed most of it the first time through (it’s on again right now)but I know Pete Seegar and Bruce Springsteen’s microphones weren’t working on most of “This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land”.  Pete was supposed to say the lines first, so everyone could sing along, but you couldn’t hear him till near the very end.

No excuse for why HBO/Obama didn’t air the good Reverend, but mic problems happened throughout the show.

Comment #33: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  01/19  at  07:16 PM

I’m sorry, but with the amount of bandwidth that’s been used over Rick Warren, and then asking Bishop Robinson pray at the Lincoln, you don’t just *oops* accidentally put the Rt. Rev. in the pre-game show. Either the PIC team is seriously amateurish in the ways of Washington and politics, or this was deliberate and they hoped that noone would notice. I’m guessing the latter - and sure, maybe it wasn’t malicious, just an effort to squeeze in all the “real” stars, but it was a boneheaded move. I wish they’d apologize publicly and effusively to Bishop Robinson and the members of the public who were anxious for inclusive preachers to outnumber the homophobic sexist ones.

Comment #34: MeEloise  on  01/19  at  07:22 PM

I stood to stare & laugh at those fundie protesters, as did most other people passing by.  The best was when the one with the bullhorn declared that America’s political & social problems began when women won the right to vote.  Audible booing commenced.

Comment #35: SarahMC  on  01/19  at  08:01 PM

One thing about the HBO broadcast: they made it available to all cable subscribers, not just premium channel subscribers.

Not exactly.  They made it available to all cable subscribers where available.

In my market, Charter Communications is the local provider, and in order to be able to access HBO, one must subscribe to digital cable services, which require a converter box.  The majority of Charter’s customers here DON’T have digital cable, just the plain old analog expanded basic cable.  If you were a cable customer in STL without a digital converter box, you were shit out of luck yesterday.

And that was true ina huge number of markets yesterday, as well.  I don’t have digital cable, and the highest channel my non-digital TV can reach is 138.  HBO broadcasts on channel 500 with my cable procider.  Without a converter box, I was unable to watch the concert at home.

Lots of people got left out yesterday, including lots of non-digital cable customers.  More than half the country wasn’t able to watch it on TV, despite total cable saturation around 80%.  Lots got left out because they don’t have digital cable.

Comment #36: DTG in STL  on  01/19  at  08:13 PM

MeEloise wrote:

I wish they’d apologize publicly and effusively to Bishop Robinson and the members of the public who were anxious for inclusive preachers to outnumber the homophobic sexist ones.

Well, of course they will!  They’ll issue some sort of apology, which will be noted by Pam Spaulding and bloggers interested in this subject, and paid attention to by no one else.  The people who are interested in this issue and who were offended by the action will then forgive all, while the intended effect of not having Bishop Robinson on television where everyone could see him will still be preserved.

You’ve been triangulated right under the bus!

Comment #37: Dana  on  01/19  at  08:47 PM

Unless I’m mistaken, the majority of posters on this board are atheists.  I would think you would object to the very notion of having a clergyman speak at all during the inaugural festivities, much less be promoting the appearance of one.

Comment #38: Direwolf  on  01/19  at  09:29 PM

I would think you would object to the very notion of having a clergyman speak at all during the inaugural festivities

Many of us are atheists, but few of us are stupid. The US population in general likes religious ceremonies of this kind and we would be fools to try to stop them.

Comment #39: atheist  on  01/19  at  09:44 PM

I would think you would object to the very notion of having a clergyman speak at all during the inaugural festivities, much less be promoting the appearance of one.

I’m agnostic and couldn’t give a shit one way or the other.

Comment #40: Joshua  on  01/19  at  09:52 PM

My PREFERENCE would be a 100% secular ceremony.  But since there WAS an invocation by someone with progressive views (a departure from the norm) I’d like for his thoughts and prayers to be included in the official broadcast.

Comment #41: SarahMC  on  01/19  at  09:58 PM

[quote=Dana]You’ve been triangulated right under the bus!

Why so goddamn gleeful, dude? It’s not like us queers are plausibly going to give up on (say) health-care in droves, so… I dunno, it comes off a tad personal.

Comment #42: jericho  on  01/19  at  10:06 PM

I dunno, it comes off a tad personal.

Dana’s calculus is that he can get more digs in over the long haul if he acts polite most of the time. I suppose he’s correct, though I don’t quite see what he gets out of it.

Comment #43: atheist  on  01/19  at  10:15 PM

I don’t entirely accept the under-the-bus claim, anyhow. As time goes on, I see more and more evidence that Obama has a kind of emotional tone-deafness w/r/t gay issues: doesn’t understand them on a gut level, doesn’t really feel that they’re important. But he has enough of a dry, theoretical understanding that he probably won’t sell us short on the big stuff. So though I anticipate lots more hurtful crap like the Warren pick, where he and his team underestimate the harm and then apparently dismiss us as hysterical (oh, privilege), but I’m not pessimistic as such. After all, I never thought Obama was my cuddly black messiah.

Comment #44: jericho  on  01/19  at  10:28 PM

So though I anticipate lots more hurtful crap like the Warren pick, where he and his team underestimate the harm and then apparently dismiss us as hysterical (oh, privilege), but I’m not pessimistic as such. After all, I never thought Obama was my cuddly black messiah.

I’m glad you’re not pessimistic. I don’t see reason to be, at least not now.

I, on the other hand, was kinda hoping Obama could be my cuddly yet steely Black Radical Marxist Emperor with a whip, but I guess I’ll settle….

Comment #45: atheist  on  01/19  at  10:45 PM

Scream Barackula Scream!!!!

Comment #46: atheist  on  01/19  at  10:50 PM

Well, apparently the entire Lincoln Memorial “concert” INCLUDING Bishop Robinson will be aired in the Mall before the inauguration.

Not good enough, but something a bit more than an apology.

Comment #47: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  01/20  at  12:03 AM

I heard Bishop Robinson on NPR a few days ago, and he said he would pray to the God of many understandings. He said that reading through inaugural prayers of the last few decades, he was struck by how “aggressively Christian” they were, and he wanted a prayer that was broad enough to include all Americans. The interviewer said it probably would be the first time many Americans heard a prayer offered to the God of many understandings.

Robinson’s response: I’ve done a lot of things for the first time.

I’m not a believer, but the guy is a class act. What happened today was pretty shitty. It seem too dumb to be on purpose, but Obama seems to smart for it to be an accident. Whichever it was, Jericho’s read on Obama seems about right.

Comment #48: chingona  on  01/20  at  01:58 AM

I am a believer, and I hate the custom of having prayers at civic ceremonies.  Hate it, hate it, hate it.  I can be religious on my own time thankyouverymuch.

That said, I think Robinson’s invocation was one of the best invocations ever.  Ever.

Comment #49: JupiterPluvius  on  01/20  at  02:20 AM

It was a great invocation. I love that he prayed for tears, for anger, for discomfort, before praying for patience, humility, compassion. It’s a shame it didn’t get broadcast, not just because of the political implications, but because I would love for people to hear such a complex, engaged prayer, where normally you get inoffensive generalities.

Comment #50: chingona  on  01/20  at  02:30 AM

I see it pretty much the way jericho does. I also hope that Obama will get a sort of ‘coach’ who is more sensitive and can explain why these things (Warren, for instance) are really not good ideas.
But as for Obama being too smart for it to be an accident… the scheduling? Or the mike failure? Because I have seen a lot of mike failures over time, including very professional events. other than that, I also agree with chingona.

I seem to be very agreeable tonight, except for the urge to give Dana a shove under a metaphorical bus one day.

Comment #51: Samantha Vimes  on  01/20  at  08:20 AM

Miss Vimes wrote:

I seem to be very agreeable tonight, except for the urge to give Dana a shove under a metaphorical bus one day.

Well, I sort of get that at noon today, though not quite.  Getting thrown under the bus usually implies that you were riding on that bus, and I was never a rider on the Obama Bus.  Perhaps getting run over by that bus would be a more accurate description.

But hey, that’s democracy for you: my guy won the last two times, and this time your guy won. I’ll just have to live with it for the next four years, and do what little I can to help the Republicans defeat him in 2012.

Comment #52: Dana  on  01/20  at  09:52 AM

Well, Obama’s team has tried to play us. Putting Robinson in the closet hurts, and this won’t be easy to forgive; they’re going to have to work to make up for this somehow. Obviously Bishop Robinson will have to be invited back and televised on basic cable and local broadcast channels for the 2013 inauguration. But that’s way too long from now, so in the meantime they’ll have to find a way to squeeze him in for some other highly visible events with the President.

Comment #53: whatnow  on  01/20  at  10:04 AM

Why so goddamn gleeful, dude? It’s not like us queers are plausibly going to give up on (say) health-care in droves, so… I dunno, it comes off a tad personal.

That’s because it is personal. The thing to understand about Dana is that he subscribes at some level to the Xtian fantasist idea that women exist in this world mainly to serve men—as chattel, as baby machines, as whores, as eye candy, as secretaries, etc.

The existence of open (and happy) homosexuals and women’s reproductive rights both threaten that sexist worldview. So poor old Dana takes every chance he can to express glee when someone—especially someone who’s ultimately an ally of liberals—short-changes either cause. Those two issues are the basis of his support for the likes of Bush and Cheney, and they’re why he spends a seemingly unusual amount time around an atheist blog that supports equal rights for GLBT people and women.

There’s a lot of hatred of the modern world (well represented by Obama despite this obvious slight) simmering underneath Dana’s polite and reasonable exterior, try as he might to affect the persona of a hapless and genial 1950s sitcom dad. The amusing part for me is watching his little “tells” and hooking them to his retrograde core views, and the way he tries to cover them. Today’s theme will likely be “injured dignity.”

Comment #54: Gracchus  on  01/20  at  10:09 AM

Unless I’m mistaken, the majority of posters on this board are atheists.

You are mistaken. The proportion of atheists here is higher than the general population. Still, most commenters and readers of Pandagon are theists. You may have gotten the other impression because many of the theist regulars don’t comment on Amanda’s atheist-related posts, and then in those threads most of the people who do post naturally mention their [lack of] belief.

Comment #55: asdf  on  01/20  at  10:42 AM

The proportion of atheists here is higher than the general population.

We’re a bit noisier here, too. We feel less constrained.

Comment #56: atheist  on  01/20  at  11:53 AM
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