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The MSM ‘discovers’ fringe paranoia news outlet WorldNetDaily

In an unintentionally hilarious article by Peter Wallsten in the Los Angeles Times, “Some fear GOP is being carried to the extreme,” we learn just how out of touch the MSM is about the crazies, bigots and wingnut conspiracy theorists that write and hang out at Joseph Farah’s WorldNetDaily.

I mean come on, LGBT bloggers in particular have been writing about the lunacy and homo-hate being excreted from the keyboards of the writes there for years.WND has been in bed with the GOP for ages, depending on the news organ churning out content to stir and inflame the Base of the party. Now that President Obama is the center of the site’s bashing—endless birther articles, socialist/communist/Nazi screeds, all of a sudden the lazy MSM wakes from its slumber. Also, as prominent Republicans, now afraid of the hate from the Base spinning out of control, they want the party to sever (at least in public) ties to WND:

Some are pressuring the Republican National Committee and other mainstream GOP groups to cut ties with WorldNetDaily.com, which reports some of the allegations. Its articles are cited by websites and pundits on the right. More than any other group, critics say, WorldNetDaily sets the conservative fringe agenda.

Critics charge that the RNC has paid WorldNetDaily for access to its mailing list, estimated to number in the hundreds of thousands, and that the RNC is therefore subsidizing the website’s anti-Obama writings.

RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho did not respond to questions on the matter.

The chilling part of the article, and it only confirms what we’ve already thought, is that the GOP’s scorched-earth, patently unpatriotic political strategy based on racism and fear-mongering will continue because they need that unbalanced demographic to win.

Insiders’ criticisms have been dismissed by some conservative leaders, who argue that the party needs an energized base—even if it’s extreme—to gain in future elections. Some analysts think that conservatives’ summer revolt against Obama’s healthcare agenda helped erode public approval of Democratic leadership enough that the GOP could pick up as many as 30 House seats next year.

To show you how scared Republican pols are of the Base (and WND and Glenn Beck, Rush, et.al.), the article cites the cowardly (and idiotic) lockstep behavior of Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) when it came to vote on the nomination of Obama regulatory nominee Cass Sunstein. While holding views favorable to business (which should be pleasing to GOPers), the talk-show bleaters declared Sunstein “radical” and built up a frenzied base.

One leading conservative Republican senator, Jim De- Mint of South Carolina, said in an interview over the weekend that he decided to oppose Sunstein after hundreds of calls from constituents demanding a “no” vote due to Sunstein’s “extreme views.”

Asked to say which of Sunstein’s views he considered extreme, DeMint could not answer. A DeMint spokesman later said, echoing the arguments of Beck and others, that his boss objected to the fact that Sunstein had once called for a ban on hunting and to his past statements on the legal rights of animals.

This is a completely steamrolled party that cannot think for itself, it’s a tool of ignorant, bigoted, unelected goons on the air, or in the case of WND, online, who marshall low-information, paranoid voters out there to threaten the party’s small-donation dollars. That’s why you see Michael Steele and the rest of “leadership” bend over for Rush et. al. That’s why you see Mitt, Huckabee and the 2012ers sucking up to the fundies. The moderates are dead in the water in the GOP in terms of any sane influence.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 02:15 PM • (36) Comments

In other news, the Los Angeles Times reports that water is wet and the large glowing ball of light in the sky is the sun.

Comment #1: tannenburg  on  09/14  at  02:47 PM

I get my rightwing POV from jewishworldreview.com. Plus they have Andy Capp comic strips.

Comment #2: Hector B.  on  09/14  at  02:50 PM

I like to tell some of my friends that, unless they’re currently sociopathic, genocidal paranoids who hate gays but also find themselves unable to resist having sex with people of their own gender, they’re not actually Republicans. So far, I’m just getting some “Ha ha, very funny” and “You’ll never catch me” joshing, but I do expect to eventually hear from some of them that I was right…  smile

Comment #3: Scott  on  09/14  at  03:08 PM

From Politico (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B5AFACCF-18FE-70B2-A83E17FB16188418) via DougJ (http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=26804):

House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio and other Republicans also privately asked Wilson to make an apology on the floor, but he wouldn’t comply, according to GOP insiders.

They’re obeying Glenn Beck, Rush and WND over their own party leaders. The entire party is going to crumble; the question is whether someone’s going to get killed in the process.

Comment #4: RickMassimo  on  09/14  at  03:24 PM

The GOP may be pitifully weak, but the Dems aren’t a lot better. The Democratic leaders seem to be taking all their talking points from the same place the Rethugs are—the looniest of the right-wing fringe…

Comment #5: Scott  on  09/14  at  04:08 PM

That’s why you see Mitt, Huckabee and the 2012ers sucking up to the fundies.

I gotta disagree on one point here… Huckabee isn’t sucking up to the fundies, because the man himself IS a fundie.  Sure, he has always been (falsely) perceived as a “nice” fundie because he doesn’t scream about hellfire and brimstone and has a pleasant demeanor and appears amiable in front of a camera, but the man was a fundie long before it became this trendy to be one on the Right.

If anything, Huckabee’s sucking up to the Club for Growth “let them eat cake” free marketeer faction of the party, a group that Romney probably already has locked up.

Oh dear Lord, I just had a thought… Huckabee satisfies the fundie Talibangelical segment of the base, and Romney satisfies the libertardian “fuck the poor” segment of the base.

I’m afraid that there’s a strong chance we’re gonna see a Romney-Huckabee or Huckabee-Romney ticket in 2012.

Comment #6: DTG in STL  on  09/14  at  05:11 PM

I so agree with this, cant we report on some REAL news and some serious issues, like….say….oh I dont know, the fact that ACORN is advising people how to cheat on their taxes and cover up child prostitution rings. Oh it was an isolated incident….ok maybe two. Or three, I cant remember (but i hear there is more to come….time for popcorn). Not a single word on this site or KOS about this huh? No outrage at all for this criminal enterprise called ACORN?  Say what you will about “right wing” sites, they at least report the good with the bad. The left….just ignore the bad.

Comment #7: Casp  on  09/14  at  05:16 PM

So I’m reading this post about the paranoia of the lunatic right-wing noise machine and even after three re-reads, I can’t tell whether Casp’s comment #7 is performance art.

This does amuse me, though: “The moderates are dead in the water in the GOP in terms of any sane influence.”

I’ve been dealing with a little alcove where the talk generally centers on Obama and democratic politics, and we’ve seen a lot of creeping in of articulate, respectful but right-leaning folks.  They’ve come to talk to us because we’re _sane_, respectful and willing to discuss things intelligently, unlike basically any set of their peers.  And we do try to get along and give them a bit of room to discuss things, even if we think their views are wrongheaded, as they’re basically displaced.  We’re sitting in an Obama-centric group letting gold bugs talk (to some extent) about the abolition of the federal reserve—because even those guys can’t stand the racist, incoherent crazies…

Comment #8: asbo zaprudder  on  09/14  at  05:32 PM

But again, Casp, the Republican Party is currently dominated from, as they say, top to bottom by sociopathic, genocidal paranoids who hate gays but also find themselves unable to resist having sex with people of their own gender.

Comment #9: Scott  on  09/14  at  05:45 PM

”...cant we report on some REAL news and some serious issues…”

Yeah! 

Dick Cheney’s original name was Ming the Merciless!

Sarah Palin was the result of Nazi medical experiments involving the surgical removal of the human soul!

The United States used torture to obtain false “information” to support the invasion of Iraq!

(I guess the last one doesn’t count because it’s true…)

Comment #10: MikeEss  on  09/14  at  05:49 PM

I so agree with this, cant we report on some REAL news and some serious issues, like….say….oh I dont know, the fact that ACORN is advising people how to cheat on their taxes and cover up child prostitution rings.

You mean like when the 25-year-old woman went to Planned Parenthood, told an outlandish story about being a 14-year-old incest victim, and then used it to claim that if PP believed her completely fake story, that proved they were bad people who were covering up for child rapists?

Maybe you guys should try coming up with some plausible scenarios the next time you try to run a “sting” operation, because saying that you showed up pretending to be a pimp and ho and ACORN, like, totally bought the story just makes you look like children playing dress-up on Halloween bragging about how the neighbors were scared of you and really thought you were Edward from Twilight.

Comment #11: Mnemosyne  on  09/14  at  05:58 PM

Mnemosyne, please..did you see the tapes?  Any honest individual should be outraged that your tax dollars are going to this criminal enterprise. How exactly would YOU defend ACORN after viewing the tapes? What I saw was disgusting and criminal.

Comment #12: Casp  on  09/14  at  06:21 PM

Mnemosyne, please..did you see the tapes?

Nope, didn’t bother.  I’m not interested in amateur theater.

Comment #13: Mnemosyne  on  09/14  at  06:24 PM

Oh, and speaking of “disgusting and criminal,” you do realize that entrapment pretty much guarantees that your case will be thrown out of court, right?  So even if your heavily edited videotape shows what your little friends claim that it shows, nothing will happen, because entrapment is illegal.

Huh, funny how now those ACORN people have no way to defend themselves in a court of law because your guys just happened to fuck up in a way that ensures that the case would never go to trial, isn’t it?  Almost as though your pals knew their case was so flimsy that the only way they could sell it was in the court of public opinion, because any actual judge would laugh them out of the courtroom and slap them with some sanctions for wasting his time.

Comment #14: Mnemosyne  on  09/14  at  06:29 PM

Mnemosyne , Entrapment?.  LOL ..Do you even know what that means? Start reading more then the lefty blogs and get a clue. In terms of them (acorn workers) being (personally) charged criminally with anything is doubtful, but the group is now in the crosshairs where it belongs. And to even argue this point without even watching the tapes is laughable. I’m a conservative, but at least I’m honest, I call shit as I see it (republican or democrat). I’m loving the MSM ignoring all these stories, calling tea party people racists..keep it up please….please. This is Carter all over again.

Comment #15: Casp  on  09/14  at  07:30 PM

“I’m a conservative, but at least I’m honest…”

Fatal contradiction?...

Comment #16: MikeEss  on  09/14  at  07:33 PM

What I saw was disgusting and criminal.

Well…now the troll knows most of the country felt for the last 8 years.

Comment #17: Sour Kraut  on  09/14  at  07:36 PM

Senate Votes to Cut off ACORN Housing Funds - Drudge

Guess that amateur theater paid off huh? And to think, all that and it was only reported by “right wing” media. Anyone gonna ask OBAMAs opinion on the controversy? nah…

Comment #18: Casp  on  09/14  at  07:38 PM

In terms of them (acorn workers) being (personally) charged criminally with anything is doubtful, but the group is now in the crosshairs where it belongs.

In other words, they didn’t actually do anything illegal, but you were able to get enough of a fuss going that you scared people off from supporting them.  Good job there, Sparky.

Guess that amateur theater paid off huh?

It sure did.  You guys are absolute masters at taking fake controversies—like claiming that allowing doctors to counsel seniors on their options for end-of-life care is putting them in front of “death panels” to be euthanized—and getting wimpy Democrats to act like you actually have a sane point while everyone else is wondering WTF you’re going on about.

I guess that if the only thing I had to sell was lies and fake controversies, I’d be proud of them, too, but that’s like being proud that you made a really stinky poo-poo that Mommy had to clean up.

Comment #19: Mnemosyne  on  09/14  at  07:47 PM

If its so fake then go march on Washington in support of ACORN, go find all those good Americans who will back you up after seeing the tapes (with more to come too!). My point about them not being personally charged was not to say that they did not do anything wrong, absolutely they did criminally and morally), but the leadership (after many search warrants) will be going down (and hopefully to jail). This is a known criminal enterprise and its days are numbered.

Comment #20: Casp  on  09/14  at  07:54 PM

Heck, employees of one of our loyal government contractors—DynCorp International—were caught actually selling 12 to 15 year old girls into sex slavery in Bosnia, back in 2000. DynCorp fired the employees and the company continues to receive some $2 billion a year from the U.S.

So condoning a sick joke, as these ACORN people seem to have done, should not harm the flow of taxpayer cash to it at all, once the responsible employees have been fired, because the U.S. government doesn’t have a double standard.

Comment #21: Hector B.  on  09/14  at  09:00 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0512270176dec27,0,1632557.story

Here’s the article on DynCorp from the Chicago Tribune. Halliburton is named for human (but not sexual) trafficking as well.

Comment #22: Hector B.  on  09/14  at  09:01 PM

Hey Hector, I see that these incidents you are talking about were issues with sub contractors overseas, gimme a break. You think bad shit dosent go on overseas when dealing with subcontractors and foreign governments? This is hardly POLICY of HAllibirton or DynaCorp to traffic in humans for sex or otherwise. Thats the best you got? Acorn is under investigation in 15 states. The fact that all of these incidents (acorn) follow the same line of logic proves that there is someone feeding them this stuff. Not investigation worthy in your opinion huh?...millions to this group that is obviously defrauding the taxpayer. Amazing.

Comment #23: Casp  on  09/14  at  09:30 PM

Funny that DynCorp employees and one supervisor become subcontractors in Casp’s mind. But anyone who has no problem with government contractors having real sex with real children, while reserving his condemnation for people who are obviously humoring a couple of nutcases, has gone off the rails entirely.

Get a sense of proportion, man.

Comment #24: Hector B.  on  09/14  at  09:39 PM

You gotta wonder what kind of trauma would make someone like Casp so suggestible.

Comment #25: paul  on  09/14  at  10:49 PM

If its so fake then go march on Washington in support of ACORN, go find all those good Americans who will back you up after seeing the tapes (with more to come too!).

That would be like marching on Washington because I didn’t like how “The Bachelor” turned out last season.

My point about them not being personally charged was not to say that they did not do anything wrong, absolutely they did criminally and morally), but the leadership (after many search warrants) will be going down (and hopefully to jail).

Let me know how that turns out for you.  The Clintons were exonerated at least three times in Whitewater, and yet you guys are still convinced there was a there there.  You can’t explain what it was, because every piece of “evidence” you had has been discredited, but you don’t need no stinkin’ facts or evidence, do you?  You “know” ACORN is a criminal enterprise and that’s all you need to know, QED.

Comment #26: Mnemosyne  on  09/14  at  10:54 PM

Casp, your problem is as clear as the blog post which you are purposefully ignoring: movement conservatives are delusional and given to mindlessly repeating fringe propaganda and told, daily, what to think and what to repeat.

As we can see, he is completely unable to deal with a situation where a blog post does not conform to the daily talking points he has been fed.

Comment #27: Tyro  on  09/14  at  11:59 PM

Hmmm…. Let’s see;  Some Whack-a-loon organization dresses up and a “Pimp and Ho” and tries 4 different times (that we know of) to entrap ACORN workers into offering advice on tax evasion and people smuggling and catches one pair on tape.

ACORN immediately fired them.

Haliburton (you know the company that Dick Cheney id Senior VP of?) is accused of having employees repeatedly raping a coworker and keeping her in a container truck, them permenantly stationing the rapists over seas so the case can never go to court in the US.

Two TOTALLY equal cases.  And sure to bring down ACORN and the Obama administration.  Just like the Haliburton case brought down Dick Cheney and Haliburton.

Comment #28: cynickal  on  09/15  at  01:02 PM

Two TOTALLY equal cases.  And sure to bring down ACORN and the Obama administration.  Just like the Haliburton case brought down Dick Cheney and Haliburton.

Well, to be fair, Dick Cheney is a Republican.


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No, really, that’s all I’ve got.

Comment #29: Mnemosyne  on  09/15  at  03:20 PM

I say another Dynacorp posting on Hotair this morning. is that you Hector?. These are two completely different cases and should be handled as such. Hallibutons issues were with a subcontractor….it ain’t the U.S. and we cant prosecute a subcontractor for crimes. If you have proof of Halliburton as POLICY enslaves people, then Id be glad to look at it. As for Dynacorp, they were apparently paying for hookers overseas. Was it the COMPANY knowingly paying for hookers? There were a few employes (the fact that he was a head guy is immaterial really) doing things they shouldn’t have and they were terminated. If sex with underage prostitutes is a crime in Bosnia then they should have gone to jail there too. But, I see people are quick to change the subject from Acorn to some BS case from 2002 that from all appearances, was handled as well as it could be, considering the jurisdictional issues. Acorn is under fire for many reasons, this is the tip of the iceberg, we will see if OBAMA can stand the heat and refuse an investigation of his former employer. It certainly appears to be the policy of these offices to “help the community” even if it means breaking the law.

Tell me.. if a lib had secret tape of a Halliburton executive saying"We like to get labor really cheap so I told the boss we should just kidnap some bosnians and make them work for peanuts” would Halliburtons excuse of “oh we fired them” satisfy you? Only honest answers accepted.

Comment #30: Casp  on  09/15  at  05:52 PM

Tell me.. if a lib had secret tape of a Halliburton executive saying"We like to get labor really cheap so I told the boss we should just kidnap some bosnians and make them work for peanuts” would Halliburtons excuse of “oh we fired them” satisfy you? Only honest answers accepted.

Well, it would be better than what Halliburton actually did, which was to tell the US government to suck it and not punish the people who imprisoned a woman for three days because she complained about being raped.

I love how Casp’s “rule of law” works:  it’s not the crime that matters, it’s the jurisdiction.  Sure, Halliburton employees kept a rape victim imprisoned for three days and Dynacorp employees ran a child prostitution ring out of their offices, but what’s really important is that a couple of lunatics dressed up in Halloween costumes and got an ACORN employee to say some stupid things on tape since we could actually prosecute that. 

Which, actually, we can’t because of the whole entrapment thing, which leads us right back around to square one, which is Casp making up Just-So Stories about how he’s totally unearthed a government conspiracy and this one is going to blow the whole thing sky-high!  And then when nothing happens, you’ll just keep clinging on like a good little Montanist, convinced that this will be the apocalypse!  I swear!

Comment #31: Mnemosyne  on  09/15  at  06:59 PM

Mnemosyne , again with the entrapment crap….you have no idea what you are talking about…IT IS NOT ENTRAPMENT..trust me I know a thing or two about the law.

Oh and BTW…did you see the latest vid to drop today….Jawdropping….

I await your brilliant response to that vid. *and more to come!)

and back again to the halliburton thing (because you go on and on about it) If the US has no jurisdiction over the case…WTF would you like them to do? Jail them themselves?

Comment #32: Casp  on  09/15  at  08:03 PM

Mnemosyne , again with the entrapment crap….you have no idea what you are talking about…IT IS NOT ENTRAPMENT..trust me I know a thing or two about the law.

Yes, please share with us your vast knowledge of criminal cases where there was a conviction based on a sting operation staged by private citizens.  I’m sure you can come up with at least a dozen cases, right?

Oh and BTW…did you see the latest vid to drop today….Jawdropping….

So is the one of Tom DeLay dancing.  And it has exactly as much of a relationship to reality. 

and back again to the halliburton thing (because you go on and on about it) If the US has no jurisdiction over the case…WTF would you like them to do? Jail them themselves?

So, just checking—if a company owned and run by American citizens employing American citizens is caught covering up a crime because they imprisoned the crime victim, who is also an American citizen, you’re perfectly fine with shrugging your shoulders and saying, “Well, no one has jurisdiction since it happened in Iraq, so carry on.  Oh, and here’s an extension to your contract.”  So much for Rule of Law.

You can go ahead and say it, Casp—you see nothing wrong with American companies engaging in forced prostitution of children and other criminal acts overseas, so you see no reason why the American government should even investigate it, much less prosecute the people involved.

Comment #33: Mnemosyne  on  09/15  at  09:11 PM

Does anyone else find it hysterically funny that Casp is calling for the heads of people who were advising people on how to evade their taxes?  I thought it was the patriotic duty of all conservatives to avoid paying their taxes whenever possible.

Comment #34: Mnemosyne  on  09/16  at  12:12 AM

That shocking, shocking ACORN video from San Bernadino where the ACORN employee says that she killed her ex-husband?  Turns out there were amateur theatrics going on from both sides:

Kaelke said she decided to tell actors “outrageous things with a straight face.” According to an ACORN press release, Kaelke stated of the actors who filmed her, “They were not believable. ... Somewhat entertaining, but they weren’t even good actors. I didn’t know what to make of them. They were clearly playing with me. I decided to shock them as much as they were shocking me. Like Stephan Colbert does—saying the most outrageous things with a straight face.” The press release also stated: “When the actors approached Ms. Kaelke with their provocative costuming and outlandish scenario, she could not take them seriously. So she met their outrageousness with her own personal style of outrageousness. She matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios.”

San Bernardino police investigated and every one of Kaelke’s exes is alive and well.  And yet Casp bought her story hook, link and sinker.  In fact, I guarantee you that, like Gretchen Carlson on Fox News, Casp will ignore the facts and continue living in his fantasy world where ACORN employees commit murder and get away with it.

Comment #35: Mnemosyne  on  09/16  at  02:30 PM

Cass Sunstein is a very prolific author of both law textbooks and books aimed at the lay (non-lawyer, non-academic) population. He helped edit an academic book on animal rights legal history and trends, contributing a short introduction and a short article “Can Animals Sue?”. Since I am busy, I didn’t try to read bits of it on Amazon preview. Now, the Amazon search took about 5 minutes, 3 of which were spent retrying a bad connection to the preview function.

Right wing people work hard to preserve their ignorance.

Comment #36: NancyP  on  09/16  at  05:42 PM
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