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The Point, You Have Missed It

imageThe Washington Post writes a story today about the terrible incivility of today’s viral world (read: bloggers).  And the opening anecdote shows the fundamental problem with the way they’re looking at this:

Late last month, Charisse Carney-Nunes fired up the computer at her home in Northeast Washington to check her e-mail. Her brain already was on morning drive time: breakfast for the kids, her day’s work at a government agency. She glanced down at her screen, then froze.

“Ms. Carney-Nunes,” began the e-mail from Michelle Malkin, a best-selling and often inflammatory conservative writer with a heavily trafficked Web site. “I understand that you uploaded the video of schoolchildren reciting a Barack Obama song/rap at Bernice Young elementary school in June. I have a few quick questions. Did you help write the song/rap and teach it to the children? Are you an educator/guest lecturer at the school? Did you teach about your book, ‘I am Barack Obama’ at the school? Your bio says you are a schoolmate of Obama. How well-acquainted are you with the president?”

Carney-Nunes looked at the time stamp—6:47 a.m.—and closed the file without replying. She knew Malkin had driven criticism of President Obama’s back-to-school speech, streamed nationwide, as an attempt to indoctrinate students. Now Malkin was asking about a YouTube video of New Jersey public school children singing and enthusiastically chanting about Obama from a Black History Month presentation.

It takes another six paragraphs before they actually get to the point of the story:

Carney-Nunes, swept up in a viral tornado of vitriol, had nothing to do with the children’s song. She was doing an author’s reading in the school that day.

...And then the story goes back to the “everyone’s so meeeeeean” story for another two and a half pages.

Yes, a great number of conservative bloggers and demagogues are terribly, stupidly mean, like cavemen who can’t understand why the rock doesn’t have delicious meat inside.  But more importantly, they’re terribly, stupidly dishonest, and it’s the dishonesty that’s the real danger.  The Washington Post spent eight paragraphs writing about a conservative scandal and only managed to toss in a single fact-checking line in paragraph nine, at which point they went back to being observant scolds of the political discourse. 

I understand that us bloggers use cursewords and invective and sometimes call reporters mud-flinging slapfucks (or we do now!), but the entire point of the conservative anger is that it allows them to push forward complete and total lies and yell down anyone who debates against them.  One of my favorite continually-told conservative stories is, “I just argued a liberal into complete and total submission using nothing but my facts, which are like a brain penis.  And a big one.”  And usually, if you break down the debate, it went in three parts.  The first is the conservative asking a fatally flawed question based on factually incorrect assumptions.  The second is the liberal attempting to answer.  The third is an explosion of conservative smugness so overwhelming that the liberal must escape out of fear for their own lives and weed stash. 

The reason conservatives are so able to build up lies is because, by being nasty about it, they know that the dreaded MSM will only focus on the nastiness.  Eventually, the entire thing turns into a series of op-eds by Davids Broder and Brooks excoriating both sides for lowering the discourse, asking where President Obama’s promise of postpartisanship went, and then endorsing the three elected Republican officials who haven’t accused Obama of flouridating our children’s water supply as a method of mind control as the new centrist way forward. 

But they totally called out Michelle Malkin for being bad, so there! She only needs to be on Meet the Press a few more times to get the message, I think.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 09:36 AM • (11) Comments

But they totally called out Michelle Malkin for being bad, so there!

Yep, and she’s a woman that even Bill O’Reilly doesn’t respect, so OOOOOH!  being tough on conservatives there.

I am sick to death of the “Some say the Earth is round.  Others say the Earth is flat.  Here we have the leader of the flat Earth Society and the leader of the Literal Bible As Truth faction to debate!”

Now the “oooh they can be such meanies!”

Fuck it.  They LIE.  They never FACT CHECK anything before pontificating about it.

THAT’S why the MSM has lost respect and why people turn to the internet.  Fox News remains popular b/c it’s an echo chamber for old, racist whiners.  The “real” news has let us down so badly with their “serious” journalists who DON’T FACT CHECK that they might as well all be Fox News. 

Were there 70,000 teabaggers in DC or 2,000,000 on 9/12?  It’s easily demonstrable that there’s no way to justify Beck’s inflated numbers, but if you never FACT CHECK, then all opinions are equally valid.

Except they’re not.  Some opinions are based on fact and reality.  There are reasonable bases for people to disagree.  But when one side consistently MAKES SHIT UP, and the so-called other side NEVER FACT CHECKS or bothers to report that the first side is LYING LIKE A RUG there’s no possibility of a reasonable debate. 

Even if both sides were talking calmly and <b>nicely</i>.  It’s not Malkin et. al.‘s meanness  that’s the problem.  That’s unpleasant, but it’s the LYING and the constant acceptance of the LIES that’s the problem.

Comment #1: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  10/11  at  11:00 AM

This is all basically a set-up to associate Michelle Malkin with those who will publicly criticize or send e-mails to reporters when they get stories wrong.

Comment #2: Tyro  on  10/11  at  11:41 AM

What Caren says.  Why not fact check?  They have simple answers:
“My bosses won’t pay me to do so.”
“My bosses don’t want me to do so.”
“My bosses will fire my padded ass if I report the results of the fact check.”
“Working is hard.”
“I can pretend to be Murrow without actually doing anything to merit it.”
“It’s more fun blaming bloggers for being wrong when I’m the one who’s wrong.”

That last one may be the most apropos: blaming other people for your own errors and projecting your own worst failings and vices on to them is pretty much the CMSM response.  It’s also what conservatives do all the time, so it’s hardly surprising that they have so much in common and spend so much time in be together.

(sings)
“Happy loving couples make it look so easy,
Happy loving couples always talk so nice….”

Comment #3: seeker6079  on  10/11  at  11:45 AM

I can’t count the number of times this gambit has worked for me in an online forum:  a rightwinger makes a pretty damning claim about a Democrat or a liberal or anyone else who’s on their hate list for that day, and without knowing a thing about it, I respond:  “that’s a lie.”  After a few nasty back-and-forths on it, including going to a link the wingnut itself provides, it turns out that, you’ll be shocked, the claim was indeed a lie.  And the proof that it’s a lie comes from the very source the wingut provides.  Before I realized it was this easy, I used to go looking for the facts myself, but I found that if you goad these slugs enough they provide the rope for their own hanging.  It’s fun!

Comment #4: digitusmedius  on  10/11  at  02:41 PM

The xkcd parody cartoon writes itself.

Liberal says something bad:  “Liberals are so mean!”

Conservative says something bad:  “Everyone is so mean!”

Ugh.

Comment #5: Crissa  on  10/11  at  05:27 PM

“It takes another six paragraphs before they actually get to the point of the story”

I agree with your larger point but this sentence is at least disingenuous. It took five very short paragraphs before getting to the sixth which explained why the attack on Carney-Nunes was so absurd. We’re talking about less than a minute of reading, tops.

But as you pointed out, the article itself has larger problems. Basically, what Caren said. Hell, the fact-checking of some of the right-wing bullshit wouldn’t even be all that tiring; reporters just have to fucking do it.

Comment #6: SufferingBruin  on  10/11  at  07:32 PM

digitusmedius:  You noticed that too!  I thought it was just me.

Comment #7: Punditus Maximus  on  10/11  at  09:53 PM

P.M.: The average person reads a headline and then maybe a paragraph or two before moving on to the funny pages. Six paragraphs, even short ones, are for those few who have actually attained an eight-grade reading level.

Comment #8: weirdnoise  on  10/12  at  09:30 AM

Why would anyone read more than the first few paragraphs of a stupid story like this? (Yeah, I know that’s a little self-contradictory, but the powerful thing about lies is that even as you recognize that they’re lies part of your brain has already filed them away.)

Comment #9: paul  on  10/12  at  03:45 PM

let’s not forget the other “point” of the article - to give more oxygen to the finger-biting story.  conservatives say mean things, but liberals will inflict bodily injury!

Comment #10: cj  on  10/12  at  05:44 PM

First of all, the expression on the child’s face is utterly priceless.

Is she being scolded for her own beautiful innocence?

Comment #11: Magis  on  10/12  at  06:50 PM
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