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There was a panel, and now there’s a post

Ha! Finally found an outlet so that I can blog a little.  I’m at the Feminism 2.0 conference, which is about bringing feminism up-to-date with the netroots world.  I’ll admit that I was a little bemused—-Jessica Valenti could barely get a panel on the power of blogging at the NOW conference in 2006, and now the president of NOW is at a conference on new media. This isn’t a surprise in a world where all the bigwigs of the Democratic party come to Netroots Nation, but still, it’s funny how much has changed in such a short period of time.

Anyway, I moderated a panel on reproductive rights, ‘cause that’s just how I roll. Emily liveblogged it here.  There was some controversy over the title—-“Roe’s Safe: Now What?”—-which I chose because it’s a hook, not because I think Roe is “safe”, because it can’t be safe when it’s already been all but utterly destroyed through the incremental strategy.  Which of course we covered with our legal expert Gretchen Borchelt. 

I chose the title, as I’ve said before, because in our mainstream media’s eyes, reproductive rights=abortion=Roe v. Wade, and now that a direct overturn of Roe seems increasingly unlikely, that means an end of the issue.  I’ve seen a handful of sweet (and misleading) articles implying that the anti-choice movement is giving up and moving towards “prevention”, which is not true in any real sense, since the anti-choice movement as it exists has no interest whatsoever in prevention as most people understand it, which is preventing unplanned pregnancy.  When your average anti-choice nut talks about “prevention”, he means handing someone a box of diapers in hopes that it means that she won’t have an abortion.  The amount of social services that it would take to change women’s lives to the degree where many women suffering unintended pregnancies would change their mind away from having an abortion is an amount that conservatives certainly can’t sign on to, and most Democrats would shy away from, too.  Media coverage that implies that the formal anti-choice movement cares about “prevention” is misleading—-the movement stands against the only realistic form of prevention, which is contraception access so women who don’t want to be pregnant don’t have to be.

The anti-choice movement is adapting to the fact that they’re not seeing an overturn of Roe v. Wade.  Having already been wildly successful at their main goal of making abortion painful, expensive, and humiliating for the vast majority of women who can’t afford discreet access to the procedure, and knowing that even a formal overturn of Roe wouldn’t extend the horror to blue state women of means, they’re diversifying their attack on reproductive rights.  This is not the same as embracing “prevention”.  In fact, if anything, the attacks on prevention are increasing dramatically, and last week’s Medicaid debacle is just one sign of the new direction they’re moving—-having made abortion miserable and expensive for low income women, the plan is to make contraception miserable and expensive for low income women.  My concern, which I stated during the panel, is that the mainstream media is run largely by financially comfortable men whose interest with reproductive rights tends to begin and end with making sure that the women in their direct circle of acquaintances have access.  They don’t care if it’s time-consuming or expensive, as long as it’s affordable to the women in their direct acquaintance.  The diminishing of abortion rights doesn’t merit much coverage so long as the technical right exists, because middle class women in blue states will always have access as long as it’s not criminal.  I fear that similar attitudes about contraception will crop up—-as long as women who can pay exorbitant amounts out of pocket can pay for it, that’s all that matters, right?  Certainly Chris Matthews indicated that was his opinion when he said he supported the general right but saw no reason for Medicaid to pay for it.

So the question I have is how do we get around this issue?  Blogging helps, but blogging alone can’t eradicate prejudices that flourish when well-off men control the media.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 05:51 PM • (14) Comments

Okay, this is SO ANNOYING. Roe v. Wade is NOT the controlling case for reproductive rights.  Planned Parenthood v. Casey is the controlling standard.  The trimester framework is gone, and the “fundamental right” and the associative “strict scrutiny” has been downgraded to the ridiculous “undue burden standard”.  Why everyone still goes nuts about Roe is beyond me.

Comment #1: Antigone  on  02/02  at  06:05 PM

Casey + Carhart now, which took away the health exception, and has wide and troubling implications.

Comment #2: Amanda Marcotte  on  02/02  at  06:37 PM

Yeah, having health risk not be an “undue burden” makes the term functionally useless, doesn’t it.  Going over these cases in my law classes makes me want to throw things.

Comment #3: Antigone  on  02/02  at  06:44 PM

The contraception this is what really, really galls me about these folks.

If they are so absolutely convinced that abortion is wrong, and their real goal is to try to minimize the number of abortions out there, why in the hell can they not see the pragmatism of contraception access?  If contraceptives were made as widely available as they should be, if education gave kids ALL of the facts and not just “teh sex is bad!  ABSTAIN ABSTAIN ABSTAIN!!!”, it WOULD reduce the number of abortions performed.

Which is what should lead anyone to the obvious conclusion, that these folks don’t actually care about reducing abortions, they cafre about controlling women’s bodies, and legislating their sexual mores to the rest of us.

It’s got nothing to do with trying to get reduce abortions and EVERYTHING to do with trying to impose their Jesusy bullshit on the country.

And this is all borne out in empirical evidence - under our last Democratic POTUS, abortions went down, because contraceptive access went up.  His Jesusy successor took away contraceptive access and imposed his abstinence-only bullshit on our kids, and lookie there - abortions go up.

They aren’t just anti-abortion, they’re anti-sex.  In particular, anti-sexual autonomy for women.

Why the fuck anybody would be anti-sex is besides me.  It doesn’t care what your political views are, it can be fun for all of us when we just let it be and quit trying to complicate the fuck out of it with our ridiculous puritanical bullshit.

Comment #4: DTG in STL  on  02/02  at  06:45 PM

Grr, wish I could edit.

First line should have read:

The obstruction of contraception access is what really, really galls me about these folks.

Comment #5: DTG in STL  on  02/02  at  06:48 PM

The amount of social services that it would take to change women’s lives to the degree where many women suffering unintended pregnancies would change their mind away from having an abortion is an amount that conservatives certainly can’t sign on to, and most Democrats would shy away from, too.

Anyone who really wants women to choose to raise a child over an abortion every time birth control fails needs to change the world so radically.  They need to forbid ‘slut-shaming’ so that a teen or woman is not embarrassed to be pregnant.  Then need to insure that education and employment are not terminated because of pregnancy.  They need to have safe, reliable, educational daycare available, and the whole “mommy wars” shit of claiming putting children in daycare is damaging needs to end.

In short, women need to be valued as full human beings and need a social and societal support we can’t even begin to set in place, should we really want all abortions, legal as they should be, to be considered a terrible choice in almost any situation.

Currently, as crappy an option as unwanted surgery is, it’s much better than poverty, unemployment, ceasing education, and litters of children you can’t afford.

This anti-contraception shit really needs to be put out in the open.  I don’t how to make it clear that poor people deserve the right to have sex just as the rich do.  These assholes act like it’s only slutty teens having sex.  Married people have sex!  and don’t want children they can’t afford. 

Birth control is medicine.  The discussion should end there.  It’s no one else’s business but a woman with her doctor’s advice.  There is no other decent argument—>you don’t want to pay for birth control?  I don’t want to pay for Iraq.  We’re Americans, so we suck it up and vote for change.

Comment #6: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  02/02  at  06:49 PM

I don’t think they’re anti-sex. They’re just anti-woman and anti-family. They know that people will have sex—they rely on it to generate so much of their outrage—but they want the women to be punished. And they want to destroy poor families, because they know money-and-kid troubles will eventually tear pretty much any couple apart.

Comment #7: paul  on  02/02  at  10:57 PM

Well, maybe we can study the tactics of our opponents, get out of our perpetual defensive crouch, and go on the offensive for once.

Comment #8: ema  on  02/03  at  03:08 AM

Ema,

Are you referring to using videos on the Internet?

‘Cause I gather Amanda is already on it.

Actually isn’t that sort of what her post was about?

Or are you referring to using deceptive scare tactics?

I’m afraid the other side will always have the advantage there:

1) They have Crazy-Fu. We can’t make up parodies of their beliefs nuttier than those beliefs themselves; we can’t outclass them in fervent and convincing delivery of balderdash. If we are to be fervent and convincing, we need to be telling the truth as we see it—which is complicated and nuanced.

2) Their fear-mongering has legs and leverage because they make the consequences real in real life; the power system is set up to do that.

I realize this sounds circular and insane—but that’s the nature of a self-perpetuating social system of exploitation, isn’t it? If it were linear, these people would wise up. If it were sane, they’d snap out of it.

Wising up is our secret weapon. But it doesn’t work the way theirs does.

Means and ends—pretty much inseparable.

Actually, the maniacal deviousness of our opponents gives us opportunities to be fervent, true to our complex perception and yet simple, because they set up situations where they overstep and we can build consensus among the majority that actually, these people are scary and nuts.

The scary thing about the current Roman Catholic initiative (which, I gather from listening to my very right-wing Catholic parents as much as I can stand to on the subject, is currently targeted at defeating FOCA) is that it does propose to put the whole force of Catholic congregations into it. I went to a meeting of progressive Catholics last week; I mentioned it here at Pandagon but here, I left out the part of the meeting—and it was the first item on the business agenda (which came after about 45 minutes of prayer and sharing)-about FOCA. I heard no dissent against the national bishops’ (unanimous) call for all Catholics to join in an anti-FOCA postcard campaign plus all manner of other attacks on reproductive rights.

Now at this meeting and prior ones I have heard people in this group argue that as under Clinton, fewer abortions will be the outcome of the Obama Presidency—but they can’t come out and say that some of that is because of more available birth control and so forth. And on abortion—well, any Catholic who comes out and says that actually, abortion is not a terrible moral evil might as well just not show up for Mass or any other Catholic thing. It was this meeting that decided me, I had no business hanging around even a body of very progressive Catholics. I just don’t share the same mental world they do. At any rate, for me to hang in there would involve a kind of lie on my part.

But I can’t gauge whether this recent clarion call to action is going to be more effective than the past 40 years of Catholic stances on these issues, which have remained essentially the same.

If this effort falters, it will be because a decisive number of Catholics, whatever they say and even think on top of their minds, understand at some level that this is really not the right battle for them to fight, because winning would be bad.

That’s wising up, to some degree. We win—and so do they, as people if not as exponents of a dangerously intolerant system.

Comment #9: Mark Foxwell  on  02/03  at  03:47 AM

I’m going to blockquote the same text as Caren to make a different point.

The amount of social services that it would take to change women’s lives to the degree where many women suffering unintended pregnancies would change their mind away from having an abortion is an amount that conservatives certainly can’t sign on to, and most Democrats would shy away from, too.

We ought to be able to offer that level of service to anyone as a matter of course, just because we’re a just, caring and capable society. We should also offer a world-class education free of charge to anyone capable of benefiting from it, among other things.

Not only should we do these things because they’re the right things to do, we should do them because we’d all be better off if we did them. We all live in the world we make.

Comment #10: bad Jim  on  02/03  at  07:14 AM

Anyone who really wants women to choose to raise a child over an abortion every time birth control fails needs to grow the fuck up and leave Stereotype Land, b/c not every woman wants a child, no matter what supports are in place.

That’s not directed at you, specifically, Caren, but even to work with that assumption to write your post makes me |=(

Comment #11: bomberE  on  02/03  at  07:40 AM

Supporting abortion access in public will get a Catholic layperson excommunicated if word gets around. There may have been some Catholics who would support the FOCA at that meeting, but they sure weren’t going to talk about it in a wide group. My guess is that people who don’t agree with the efforts to lobby against FOCA will simply take the postcards at church, and then drop them in the round file at home.

Comment #12: NancyP  on  02/03  at  04:43 PM

Mark Foxwell,

Yes, using videos, media ads, etc. to counteract the wall of propaganda and talking heads. What Amanda is already doing is great, but her videos are educational. I don’t think facts and figures are effective at countering something like the “Obama in utero” video or “the black race is being aborted” message.

We shouldn’t use deceptive scare tactics but there’s no reason why we can’t try to use their Crazy-Fu to our advantage. Put out something like a “pedophile priest in utero” video and see what happens.

My point is that our current tactics of being factual, nuanced, and delicate don’t seem to be working.

Comment #13: ema  on  02/03  at  08:39 PM

personally…
i think that birth control should be automatic, and that the only to concieve a child is for a couple (or, i guess if we are going artifical inseminsation, i could just be the mother) to take a free and universally available counter-agent. but then again, i am pretty radical on this issue, and i am aware of the fears that this idea causes - we have a pretty bad track record when it comes it involuntary sterilization, and while i think that this COULD be implemented without any discriminatory practices, there is absolutley no fucking way that even the far-left progressive wing could endorse such a concept. i know this. which is why i don’t talk about this idea much. it is NOT a “population growth zero” concept, it would NOT restrict reproduction, except inasfar as people would have to make a conscious effort, beyond having sex, to actually get pregnant, so that accidental and/or unplanned pregnancies wouldn’t happen. and that is ALL. people could still have two dozen kids, they would just have to take a counter-agent to do it.

as for spreading the word that repro rights are in acute danger of becoming a privilege that only the wealthy and affluent can access; i have blogged about it a lot, like everyone else. i sometimes go to fundy blogs and argue (so i guess i’m a troll…?). i agree with the idea of making counter-commercials, but i have nothing else to contribute there. i really don’t know what to do about it, except to KEEP PUSHING for FULL sex ed in schools and KEEP PUSHING to keep birth control AT LEAST as inexpensive as fucking Viagra. and really, i think hitting people over the head with Viagra, comparing and contrasting the available access to ED meds to BC meds, would be a good route, but again, i don’t know HOW.

but if someone starts something that i can help with, i will.

Comment #14: denelian  on  02/04  at  12:59 AM
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