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They’re Color Blind, You See

National Review inexplicably portrays Latina Sonia Sotomayor as a slanty-eyed Asian Buddhist

It’s not offensive because it’s someone else’s stereotype, like if I say a woman can’t do the same job a man can because women have hook noses and are obsessed with money.

Either that, or it was a preemptive “tribute” to David Carradine, because he was a conservative scholar on the level of Burke, Hayek or Glenn Reynolds.  Grab the pebble from the hand?  Heh.  Indeed.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 04:06 PM • (94) Comments

Maybe they really can’t tell any of them apart. All minorities are as one to the National Review. Let us meditate upon this wisdom, Ed Gruberman…

Comment #1: Scott  on  06/05  at  04:16 PM

Wow.  Wow.  That’s…  That’s impressive.

Comment #2: kaninchen  on  06/05  at  04:16 PM

Ohmmmm, Ohmmmm, Republicans are assholes, Ohmmmm, Ohmmmm, Don’t let them ruin your harmony, Ohmmmm, Ohmmmm.

*abject failure*

Comment #3: Magis  on  06/05  at  04:20 PM

know what else? those flowers are not what lotuses look like. They DO, however, look exactly like vaginas. Way to stay classy, NR! woman=vagina, don’t forget!!!!!

Comment #4: liviaclaudia  on  06/05  at  04:22 PM

Double-You. Tee. Eff.

Comment #5: HonestB  on  06/05  at  04:26 PM

we are not the sum of our parts, apparently we are *just* parts.

Comment #6: liviaclaudia  on  06/05  at  04:27 PM

My brain breaks anew, daily, at the whatthefuckery of the right.

Comment #7: taijiya  on  06/05  at  04:29 PM

The “Them Brown People” Convergence!

After all, there are no Latino/Latina models for wisdom - gotta appropriate one from some of them smarter people!

Comment #8: Ms Kate  on  06/05  at  04:29 PM

Aside from all of the other nonsense going on with this cover, what’s up with the deer in the background??

Comment #9: FashionablyEvil  on  06/05  at  04:34 PM

what’s up with the deer in the background??

A sign that she hates the Second Amendment?

Comment #10: Incertus, Nacho Daddy  on  06/05  at  04:36 PM

Wow. I guess the concept of an intelligent woman who doesn’t fit their preconceived notions of how such a creature should appear just broke their teeny tiny brains.

New concept: Capable, smart woman=Hispanic federal judge.

Sequence of events following this information: Aaaiiigghhh…sproing…drool…get up off floor and write racist claptrap.

Comment #11: HooksInMyHead  on  06/05  at  04:36 PM

Well, I get that they’re trying to ape Buddhist art and making a reference to the “wise Latina” bit, but yeah, there are no conventions in any Buddhist art anywhere of slanting the eyes. It could just be a bad caricature - the eyes make it look like maybe her head should be tilting forward, but the rest of the face doesn’t go along with it.

Comment #12: pseudointellectual  on  06/05  at  04:43 PM

Honestly, I thought they might have gone with Our Lady of Guadalupe-like imagery, but that might have caused Bill Donohue to pull his subscription.  Besides, too Christian.  Gotta make ‘er look like one a’ them evil pagan furriners.  No good pictures of Mohammed’s daughter Fatima, damn their cartoon-hatin’ eyes, plus our readership might not get it.

Oh, I know!  Let’s go all Yellow Peril on her!  The classics never die!

...

OK, I’m back.  Gotta floss my brain now…

Comment #13: damnedyankee  on  06/05  at  04:44 PM

It’s almost like they were trying to sell magazines.

Comment #14: norbizness  on  06/05  at  04:45 PM

It’s almost like they were trying to sell magazines.

Interesting what sells to some people.

And oo, look!  “Jonah Goldberg on his critics!”  Betcha that piece has more straw men in it than a scarecrow factory!

Comment #15: damnedyankee  on  06/05  at  04:49 PM

I can’t believe they didn’t pop out a boob Janet Jackson style. You know. For the win.

Comment #16: Orange  on  06/05  at  04:50 PM

Holy hell: They aimed their “wit” at Sotomayor and managed to insult Asians instead. What’s next - an armed “Muslim extremist” sporting ‘desert robes’ along with hooked nose, turban, and forelocks?

Of course they’ll get a lot of flack for this, and they’ll celebrate their glorious achievement in the usual manner: by flinging feces at each other and publishing some of the bigger smudges in their next edition.

Comment #17: Nil  on  06/05  at  04:51 PM

Yeah, I was kinda wondering where her chest had gone in that one.

Comment #18: Punditus Maximus  on  06/05  at  04:52 PM

what’s up with the deer in the background??

When the Buddha was enlightened all sorts of animals came to hang out with him, so you’ll often see animals in the traditional Buddhist art depicting him. I think that’s what they were going for here.

Comment #19: pseudointellectual  on  06/05  at  04:53 PM

What the…?

This is like the guy I overheard at the pool last week, using racial slurs that I didn’t even know who they were supposed to be against.  (It was like a random slur generator.  Random noun + “head”  = instant racism!)

Comment #20: snowmentality  on  06/05  at  04:53 PM

It’s almost like they were trying to sell magazines.

I’m really tired of this particular cynical retort. Yes, capitalists will do whatever it takes to make money, and yes, the primary mission of publishers is to sell their product (and advertising)—we get that.  That doesn’t mean we should just shrug our shoulders when a for-profit institution sinks below our standards of decency.

Comment #21: Cris  on  06/05  at  05:03 PM

(It was like a random slur generator.  Random noun + “head” = instant racism!)

This country would be just fine if not for all the lollipopheads taking jobs from good Americans!

Comment #22: damnedyankee  on  06/05  at  05:09 PM

there are no conventions in any Buddhist art anywhere of slanting the eyes.

yeah, considering that Buddhism started in India and moved East, maybe they really CAN’T tell the non-whites apart.

Comment #23: Siobhan  on  06/05  at  05:11 PM

I can’t believe they didn’t pop out a boob Janet Jackson style. You know. For the win.

But they DID, Orange.  See, her right hand (on our left) is up and blocking the fact that that robe only covers one side.

They want the magazine to be on display, and not behind a wrapper.

My brain actually hurts from looking at that picture and realizing not only did the artist not get what was wrong, but numerous editors also didn’t get why this picture was inappropriate for publication.

Comment #24: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  06/05  at  05:11 PM

So…ummmm…..

Do these kinda people still do “Confucious say…” jokes?
or…ummm…Charlie Chan/Num-buh-one-son jokes?

Say it ain’t so!

Comment #25: Magis  on  06/05  at  05:17 PM

The proofs were probably passed around the office to many chuckles, with an attached Post-It:  “This’ll REALLY piss off the liberals!”

I mean, that seems to be the conservative method when they decide on public policy, so why not take the same approach with art direction?

Comment #26: damnedyankee  on  06/05  at  05:20 PM

Has anyone tried folding the thing yet? Because seriously, the only place I’ve ever seen that style of art before is on the inside back cover of MAD.

Comment #27: Llelldorin  on  06/05  at  05:24 PM

Holy hell: They aimed their “wit” at Sotomayor and managed to insult Asians instead. What’s next - an armed “Muslim extremist” sporting ‘desert robes’ along with hooked nose, turban, and forelocks?

This may be the second phase of the GOP followers’ do-it-to-themselves campaign. 

Phase 1: Alienate Hispanics by using racism to play up immigration fears and we’ll win 2006/8!!!

Phase 2: Phase 1 isn’t working out….lets bring in the Asians!!! Yeah by alienating two minority groups with which we had some chance of gaining support, we’ll…umm…err..triumph over those Democrats!!! Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Comment #28: exholt  on  06/05  at  05:28 PM

Phase 1: Alienate Hispanics by using racism to play up immigration fears and we’ll win 2006/8!!!

Phase 2: Phase 1 isn’t working out….lets bring in the Asians!!! Yeah by alienating two minority groups with which we had some chance of gaining support, we’ll…umm…err..triumph over those Democrats!!! Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Phase 3: Continue until the party consists of Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, and one guy living in Leonard, OK.

Comment #29: Llelldorin  on  06/05  at  05:35 PM

yeah, considering that Buddhism started in India and moved East, maybe they really CAN’T tell the non-whites apart.

One of history’s little secrets is that Buddhist art, especially in China, Japan and Korea, was heavily influenced by greek sculpture via Hellenistic Bactria, through which the Buddhist missionaries passed on their way to China.

Comment #30: Sarcastro  on  06/05  at  05:36 PM

I can just see the conversation going on at the magazine.

Editor 1:  “What ethnic group haven’t we pissed off yet?”
Editor 2:  “Darkies?  Check.  Wet Backs?  Check.  The French?  Check.  What’s that big country west of California where all the slanty eye midgets with the tiny penises that do all our manufacturing live?”
Editor 1:  “Asiaria?”
Editor 2:  “Yeah, that one.  Let’s make fun of them.”

Comment #31: Zifnab  on  06/05  at  05:37 PM

When the Buddha was enlightened all sorts of animals came to hang out with him, so you’ll often see animals in the traditional Buddhist art depicting him. I think that’s what they were going for here.
pseudointellectual on 06/05 at 03:53 PM

Anyone see who the cover artist is attributed to?  If none, my guess is the appropriation of some clip art.

Comment #32: phylosopher  on  06/05  at  05:56 PM

Oops, should have read “cover art”

Comment #33: phylosopher  on  06/05  at  05:57 PM

Zifnab: I think that’s the theory I’m working on… Frank Luntz did some polling suggesting that Asian-Americans are the only demographic that don’t actively hate Republicans worse than anal warts (still worse than diarrhea, though), and by golly someone should do something about that.

Comment #34: norbizness  on  06/05  at  06:00 PM

know what else? those flowers are not what lotuses look like. They DO, however, look exactly like vaginas. Way to stay classy, NR! woman=vagina, don’t forget!!!!!

I’m not sure the editors at NR have ever actually SEEN a vagina in person so this may, in fact, be an accident…

Comment #35: Woodrowfan  on  06/05  at  06:18 PM

At this rate NR readers should be fleeing for the independent nations of undersea colonies and oil platforms in no time.

Comment #36: cynickal  on  06/05  at  06:28 PM

One of history’s little secrets is that Buddhist art, especially in China, Japan and Korea, was heavily influenced by greek sculpture via Hellenistic Bactria, through which the Buddhist missionaries passed on their way to China.

Now you are just sooooooo way over the wingers heads.  Stop it.  You mention exotic civilizations, history, art, and not-Christian religion all in a couple of sentences.  Do you want the poor dears to explode?

Comment #37: Magis  on  06/05  at  06:53 PM

Modeling her like Joe Camel to play into anti-Arab stereotypes would have violated copyright.

Comment #38: Ms Kate  on  06/05  at  06:53 PM

Cover art trolling.

Comment #39: pseudonymous in nc  on  06/05  at  06:54 PM

Fun fact:

Until 2000, Asian Americans were by and large solidly Republican in elections.

In 2000, they were split. By 2008, they’re Democrats.

Same for Arab-Americans (the majority of whom, btw, are actually Christian).

And I’m gonna bet the Republicans are so stupid they have no idea how they alienated them.

Comment #40: Ben D.  on  06/05  at  06:56 PM

It’s too bad that Michelle Malkin won’t notice or care.  Otherwise her honorary White Man status might not be enough to prevent her from standing up against the one form of bigotry she might care about.

OTOH, she did defend the WWII Japanese internment camps, so maybe she’s had her Asian roots surgically removed…

Comment #41: MikeEss  on  06/05  at  06:56 PM

I doubt the National Review will understand they have been offensive. They probably think they were being complimentary by comparing her to a wise Buddha.

Comment #42: wondering  on  06/05  at  07:03 PM

What I think riles the wingnuts even more: Sotomayor is neither an immigrant nor brown.

Heck, my natural skin tone is darker than hers is by several fine shades of makeup/people crayons!

Comment #43: Ms Kate  on  06/05  at  07:04 PM

what’s up with the deer in the background??
Wasn’t Buddha’s first sermon given in a deer park, to deer*?

...I looked it up: Sarnath.

* I could be wrong about some of this. Everything I know about Buddhism, I learned from manga

Comment #44: Andrew_F  on  06/05  at  07:05 PM

Eh, there’s no love lost between Fillipinos and Japanese so the “defense” of internment isn’t totally surprising (though still massively fucked up)?

Comment #45: Ben D.  on  06/05  at  07:07 PM

Woodrowfan:

there is no way that’s an “accident” - the fact that they look nothing like the flowers they’re pretending to look like is a dead giveaway. They know what they’re doing, creepy as it is. It’s extremely noticeable as well.

but sure, these guys are creeps, they never get dates, har har.

Comment #46: liviaclaudia  on  06/05  at  07:29 PM

It’s too bad that Michelle Malkin won’t notice or care.

Oh, she’ll notice. She just won’t care.

Comment #47: Jeff Fecke  on  06/05  at  07:50 PM

Honestly, I thought they might have gone with Our Lady of Guadalupe-like imagery, but that might have caused Bill Donohue to pull his subscription.

That could be arguably worse.  Our Lady of Guadalupe is the patroness of Mexico; the patroness of Puerto Rico is Our Lady of Divine Providence.  Which means that modeling the caricature too closely on the details of Guadalupe iconography, or explicitly labeling the caricature as a Guadalupe, would be a very common faux-pas that annoys Puerto Ricans: “all Hispanics are Mexican.”

In my experience, Puerto Ricans as a general rule don’t mind being compared to Mexicans, but they sure don’t like being confused for them.  But generalizing from that, I think a lot of you people are focusing your criticism on the wrong aspect of this cover caricature.  The argument of the post seems to be that the caricaturist and the intended audience are confusing Hispanics with Asians, which I just don’t buy.  I think the caricature compares Sotomayor to the Buddha without confusing Hispanics for Asians.

What I focus on in that caricature, however, is (a) the slant on the eyes, which really is a grotesquely racialized depiction of Asians, and (b) the whole system of stereotypes about the wisdom of the Orient.

Comment #48: sacundim  on  06/05  at  08:00 PM

What I focus on in that caricature, however, is (a) the slant on the eyes, which really is a grotesquely racialized depiction of Asians, and (b) the whole system of stereotypes about the wisdom of the Orient.

Yep. Point (a), along the very toothy grin, make this look like something that would have been drawn ca. 1943.

Comment #49: Jeff Fecke  on  06/05  at  08:04 PM

Sacundim—I think the slanted eyes act as an actual point of confusion.

Comment #50: Punditus Maximus  on  06/05  at  08:35 PM

Oh, this is fucking rich.

Apparantly the editor-in-chief emeritus for The Washington Times is not only a wingnut conservative (to be expected from the Moonie paper), but a candidate for Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan.  In perhaps the most wantonly racist editorial hit piece against our president I have ever read in any American newspaper, shitstain Wes Pruden offers the following criticism regarding President Obama’s speech in Cairo yesterday:

Mr. Obama’s revelation of his “inner Muslim” in Cairo reveals much about who he is. He is our first president without an instinctive appreciation of the culture, history, tradition, common law and literature whence America sprang. The genetic imprint writ large in his 43 predecessors is missing from the Obama DNA … Kenya simply routed Kansas.

Fuck you, Wes Pruden.  Go give another speech to the “Daughters of the Conferacy”, you vile, inbred racist piece of shit.

Comment #51: DTG in STL  on  06/05  at  08:41 PM

Speaking of David Carradine, rumor has it his last words were “Pai Mei taught you the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique?”

Comment #52: Tommykey  on  06/05  at  08:48 PM

Holy hell: They aimed their “wit” at Sotomayor and managed to insult Asians instead.

Devil’s Advocate, NR has a history of doing that.  I recall some years ago they had a cartoon of Hillary Clinton on their cover that was a bad Chinese caricature.  I think the caption was “The Manchurian Candidate”.

Comment #53: Tommykey  on  06/05  at  08:50 PM

MikeEss:

I suspect Malkin doesn’t see Japanese people as Asian, or at least not Her Kind Of asian. Don’t forget, the Japanese aren’t especially popular in east Asia—growing up as the daughter of Filipino immigrants like she did, I figure her parents must have been some of the ones that reeeeeeeeeallly hated the Japanese, and she just spread the hate out to everyone else.

Comment #54: BrianX  on  06/05  at  08:55 PM

I’m gonna guess NR was expecting Obama to nominate Margaret Cho, and had already paid for the cover art.

Comment #55: Hector B.  on  06/05  at  09:54 PM

Oh dear, Pruden is channeling Westbrook Peggler again.

Interesting how a man who claims to hold two countries dear in his heart as a southerner still has the hypocrisy within to accuse Obama of not being a real American because he has African roots.

SRSLY.

Comment #56: Ms Kate  on  06/05  at  10:20 PM

I suspect Malkin doesn’t see Japanese people as Asian, or at least not Her Kind Of asian.

Interestingly enough, since the 1868 Meiji Restoration, Japan has hesitated between disassociating themselves from “backwards Asia” and embracing Asia.  This historically vacillating attitude along with the colonialist rampages they unleashed upon East and SE Asia are reasons why there are still lingering suspicions about Japan’s foreign policy motives in some quarters. 

Don’t forget, the Japanese aren’t especially popular in east Asia—growing up as the daughter of Filipino immigrants like she did, I figure her parents must have been some of the ones that reeeeeeeeeallly hated the Japanese, and she just spread the hate out to everyone else.

Though this may have played a part, another factor is her seeming collusion with those who regarded anyone who is “foreign-looking” as permanently foreign…..even those who first or more generation US-born….

Comment #57: exholt  on  06/05  at  10:20 PM

One of history’s little secrets is that Buddhist art, especially in China, Japan and Korea, was heavily influenced by greek sculpture via Hellenistic Bactria, through which the Buddhist missionaries passed on their way to China.

Now I have learned something.  Thank you!

Comment #58: Siobhan  on  06/05  at  10:24 PM

Thanks for the info, sacundim.  I was just thinking about how when the wingnuts hear “Hispanic” they go straight to Mexico, do not pass “GO,” etc.  That’s where that was coming from.

Comment #59: damnedyankee  on  06/05  at  11:07 PM

there is no way that’s an “accident” - the fact that they look nothing like the flowers they’re pretending to look like is a dead giveaway. They know what they’re doing, creepy as it is. It’s extremely noticeable as well.

I would be inclined to agree, except for one thing.  Making flowers deliberately resemble something else would require at least a modicum of subtlety.  Not a lot; a little bit.

These people don’t do subtlety.  They’re about as subtle as a brick in the face.

I conclude that the appearance of the genitalia blooms is some kind of Freudian slip.  If you were on staff at the NR, what would really scare the living poop out of you?  How about an all-powerful Latina Goddess figure surrounded by a divine aura floating on a whirling disk of fiery throwing star vaginas?

Comment #60: ummeli  on  06/05  at  11:19 PM

  I suspect Malkin doesn’t see Japanese people as Asian, or at least not Her Kind Of asian.

A lot of Asian Americans go in for the self-hate thing. May not go any further than that.

Comment #61: gwangung  on  06/06  at  12:07 AM

ummeli—the result doesn’t have to have been conscious.

Comment #62: Punditus Maximus  on  06/06  at  12:15 AM

Hey corwin, you dumb fuckstick…

Name one current member of the Supreme Court who was more qualified for the job at the time of their appointment than Sonia Sotomayor?

Just one, you racist shitforbrains.

Comment #63: DTG in STL  on  06/06  at  01:07 AM

Has anyone tried folding the thing yet? Because seriously, the only place I’ve ever seen that style of art before is on the inside back cover of MAD.

Llelldorin, FTW!

Comment #64: hamletta  on  06/06  at  01:09 AM

(I ask this ,because in my job,it’s extremely important that when I refer to a ,say, oncologist, I’d like him/her to know what a CLL looks like under the ‘scope and what to do with it. )

I was unaware that white men had special vision that means only they can see a CLL.  Out of curiosity, what part of the eye of white men gives them that special ability that means that no woman or person of color could possibly see a CLL under a microscope?  I’m sure someone’s done a research study on it.

Comment #65: Mnemosyne  on  06/06  at  02:09 AM

that means that no woman or person of color could possibly see a CLL under a microscope

Best oncologist I know is a little brown woman.

Other sayings that threaten white men:

“A woman has to work twice as hard as a man to be thought of as half as good. Luckily this is not difficult”

“Don’t forget Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards . . . and in high heels!”

Comment #66: Hector B.  on  06/06  at  02:40 AM

Scroll down here for original Buddha picture thanks to Sadly, No! commenter cowalker.

Comment #67: Zarquon  on  06/06  at  06:18 AM

Corwin, if you can’t even figure out a fucking comma, I don’t think you have room to talk about anybody’s professional prowess.

L2write, n00b.

Comment #68: speedbudget  on  06/06  at  09:19 AM

Has anybody submitted this fine art work to MOBA yet?  I didn’t see it up in a theater basement.

http://www.moba.org

Comment #69: Ms Kate  on  06/06  at  10:20 AM

crap - they moved their website to http://www.museumofbadart.org/

Comment #70: Ms Kate  on  06/06  at  10:21 AM

Corwin sure ran away quickly…even less sticking power than most trolls who are completely pwned on their first post.

Comment #71: jjcomet  on  06/06  at  10:34 AM

Interesting ... if those are “vaginas”, then that must be why they are lined up like shark’s teeth.

Comment #72: Ms Kate  on  06/06  at  12:13 PM

Does being a Wise Latina make up for a lack of knowledge in her area of supposed expertise ?

Please provide evidence of Sotomayor’s “lack of expertise” related to the position.

Comment #73: Clio  on  06/06  at  12:55 PM

corwin:

Learn to type, you babbling idiot.

Comment #74: BrianX  on  06/06  at  01:30 PM

I guess in corwin-world, Princeton hands out summa cum laudes in boxes of Cracker Jacks.

Comment #75: damnedyankee  on  06/06  at  01:42 PM

I think any of the current justices-assuming they had an IQ in triple digits are more qualified than SS.

OK, first off, you apparently haven’t bothered to check out the IQs of the current justices and are just talking out of your ass since you’re just assuming here.  Second, you’re implying that Sotomayor has an IQ less than triple digits.

Please explain the summa cum laude from Princeton and her graduating as the #1 in her class with a less than average IQ.  Or is that just your touchy, fluffy, non-measurable racism and sexism showing?

.The point I was making is you people as a group tend to assign fluffy, non measurable traits rather than commenting on her qualifications.

Check the site.  You’ll notice we reference her many years as a Federal judge and her education as her qualifications—and the fact that she has far more years of experience as a Federal judge than any other nominee in 100 years.

That’s measurable.  It’s why we say she’s more qualified than any of the current judges were upon their nominations—she IS.

Comment #76: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  06/06  at  02:04 PM

I guess in corwin-world, Princeton hands out summa cum laudes in boxes of Cracker Jacks.

Being a Latina in corwin-world is like being white in Eddie Murphy’s imagination:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10356/saturday-night-live-white-like-me

Comment #77: Hector B.  on  06/06  at  03:21 PM

That’s measurable.  It’s why we say she’s more qualified than any of the current judges were upon their nominations—she IS.

Well, C-S-B-C-O-A-P, that may be true. But she’s a Latina, so therefore she’s stupid. Or at the very least, stupider than a white guy.

/corwin

Comment #78: Jeff Fecke  on  06/06  at  03:32 PM

Hey guys, I’m a talking asshole with access to the Google trolling a feminist website pretending to be a physician to try to give myself some of that thar credubil, uh, creda… uh…. some of that fancy talk so I sound like I know what I’m talking about.

I reality, I’m a pathetic little man who has been rejected by every woman I have ever talked to, and I continue to express my fury at those mean sluts by posting useless twaddle on the internets from my parent’s basement.

Love,

corwin

Comment #79: DTG in STL  on  06/06  at  03:44 PM

A guy who writes like a seventh grader is telling us that Sotomayor is unqualified? The mind boggles.

Comment #80: Ben D.  on  06/06  at  04:30 PM

A guy who writes like a seventh grader is telling us that Sotomayor is unqualified?

Hey! That’s unfair. Seventh graders write much better than Corwin.

Comment #81: Jeff Fecke  on  06/06  at  04:41 PM

I really don’t think you know any oncologists. But, this is the net. And , It’s a pathologist who does that
looking the the microscope stuff.

This is interesting, because previously corfam typed:

(I ask this ,because in my job,it’s extremely important that when I refer to a ,say, oncologist, I’d like him/her to know what a CLL looks like under the ‘scope and what to do with it. )

I’m pretty sure oncologists know what cancer cells look like, so I don’t know why he’s having an argument with himself. Unless he, an illiterate, is claiming to be a pathologist. He might be confused; I’m prepared to believe he’s pathological.

Comment #82: Hector B.  on  06/06  at  05:06 PM

Oh, too bad I didn’t respond to Corblab soon enough, as I was busy flying a plane while performing delicate surgery and, oh, practicing law during a trial.

/buckaroo banzai

Comment #83: Ms Kate  on  06/06  at  06:12 PM

Yeah, Ms Kate, but you skipped out on band rehearsal.  How are we gonna get that tight sound without you on the sax?

Comment #84: damnedyankee  on  06/06  at  08:45 PM

I do want to give DTG a special “Swifty’ -named for after the famous Jonathon.  As most of you undoubtedly (don’t) know John von Neumann was probably the brightest person of the last century(“Who’s he?” the murmurs arise. Just another person with shit for brains.)

I’m sorry, I don’t quite understand?

Comment #85: Matty  on  06/06  at  08:58 PM

I do want to give DTG a special “Swifty’ -named for after the famous Jonathon.  As most of you undoubtedly (don’t) know John von Neumann was probably the brightest person of the last century(“Who’s he?” the murmurs arise. Just another person with shit for brains.)

I’m sorry, I don’t quite understand?

Corwin, or more appropriately, shitforbrains, is attempting to position himself as the intellectual equivalent of an academically esteemed Hungarian mathemetician.

What shitforbrains has demonstrated is a tremendous acumen for using the Google to find obscure intellectuals that aren’t germane to the conversation at hand.

Simply put, anyone can do a search for “mathematicians of the 20th century”, pick a random name from the list on the first link, and then drop the name in a blog post comment thread to try to demonstrate: “See, I am teh smart.  I am not a moran.”

Comment #86: DTG in STL  on  06/06  at  10:11 PM

What shitforbrains has demonstrated is a tremendous acumen for using the Google to find obscure intellectuals that aren’t germane to the conversation at hand.

Jon von Neumann is not obscure for people in engineering and computer science. Nevertheless, corwin is an incoherent idiot.

I think any of the current justices-assuming they had an IQ in triple digits are more qualified than SS. The point I was making is you people as a group tend to assign fluffy, non measurable traits rather than commenting on her qualifications.

Her qualification is that she was a successful law and longtime federal and circuit court judge. The rest of your babbling just reflects a love of seeing yourself type.

Comment #87: Tyro  on  06/06  at  11:57 PM

Jon von Neumann is not obscure for people in engineering and computer science.

Fair enough.  But for the 95% of the population not in those fields, I’d say he’s obscure.  After reading his bio, he appears to be a giant in his field, but that said, I’d guess the overwhelming majority of Americans have never heard of him.

Comment #88: DTG in STL  on  06/07  at  12:07 AM

von Neumann really should be well known (of course I say that since I’m in math and he actually partially worked in my field) since he was a big name in computer science, quantum mechanics, math, dabbled in game theory, and worked on the Manhattan project. What’s ironic is that he was big in logic, which corwin doesn’t seem to have a familiarity with.

Comment #89: JohnL  on  06/07  at  12:35 AM

Jon von Neumann is not obscure for people in engineering and computer science.

Click! And it all slides into place. I’m not saying that all computer scientists/engineers are misanthropic MRA-types (most aren’t), but there’s a huge proportion of the misanthropic/MRA-types who are comp sci/engineering folk. Never sure why, but it seems to follow hand-in-glove.

Comment #90: Jeff Fecke  on  06/07  at  01:34 AM

Slight derail:  it’s not only computer scientists and engineers that know of Von Neumann, but science fiction readers as well; Von Neumann machines are a common trope.

Of course there are plenty of Libertarian types in that demographic too, so the point still stands, I think.  What was the point again?

Comment #91: Dr. Locrian  on  06/07  at  10:38 AM

In any case, I’ve read enough pathology reports to know that this guy really would have a very hard time staying employed in that field.  Pathology reports have to be very clearly written or dictated, or really bad things can happen.

Comment #92: Ms Kate  on  06/07  at  02:47 PM

What is “a” CLL? Does he mean chronic lymphocytic leukemia but can’t use the correct article? CLL is first suspected because of blood test results, and then confirmed by the presence of an overabundance of enlarged lymphocytes in the bone marrow. But then, the pathologist wouldn’t need to know what “a CLL” looks like, but what abnormal lymphocytes look like. And why wouldn’t he use, by way of example, something like non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, which can be confused with mono, even when affected lymph nodes are biopsied? (And having actually had non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, I know two oncologists, one Turkish man and one Brazilian woman. Know why the cancer center paired them together? The Brazilian woman had a much better bedside manner and was indeed more empathetic.) I call bullshit, for the 100th time, on corwin. And will also point out that Sotamayor has more judicial experience than the past four confirmed nominees put together.

Comment #93: Liz212  on  06/07  at  07:26 PM

Does anyone know the minimum number of minority groups you have to despise before you can get a subscription to NR?

Comment #94: Tom P  on  06/09  at  05:37 PM
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