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Today’s moments in over-the-top wingnuttery

Via Roy Edroso comes some more troubling examples of Michelle Malkin’s special brand of intellectual dishonesty.  See, there’s a story out about how Michelle Obama won’t visit South Carolina, because of possible security concerns.

U.S. House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn said Friday that a conversation with White House staff left him with the sense that a hostile environment in South Carolina is keeping the first lady from visiting.

The high-ranking South Carolina Democrat said he has received more than 100 invitations for Michelle Obama. But this summer when he brought one of those requests to her staff on behalf of his alma mater, South Carolina State University, Clyburn said her security was an issue.

The conversation came after former Richland County GOP activist Rusty DePass suggested on Facebook in June that an escaped zoo gorilla was not harmful because it was probably one of Mrs. Obama’s ancestors. DePass’ comment was coupled with a remark in July from U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, a Republican. DeMint said that beating the president’s health care plan would be a ‘Waterloo’ moment for Obama.

Congressman Joe Wilson’s ‘You lie!’ outburst during Obama’s joint address on health care reform last month didn’t help either, Clyburn said.

‘A lot of it has to do with the fact that the climate in South Carolina just is not good, and that’s a shame,’ Clyburn said at a roundtable discussion at his Columbia office.

Of course, Clyburn has been marched through the routine apologies for noting the obvious about South Carolina.  However, the real reasons here are probably not going to be something we learn about.  It could be a combination of security concerns and political calculation, but the fact that there’s likely security concerns should give decent people reason to be upset with potential terrorists, not with the Obamas.  But naturally Malkin says that merely not visiting South Carolina is “criminalizing dissent”.


On one hand, she’s being incoherent, since no one is being subject to the criminal justice system for dissent.  But I wish that I could just leave it at that, but unfortunately, Malkin has a history of minimizing right wing terrorism.  When the DHS put together a report on violent right wing extremists, Malkin called it a “a sweeping indictment of conservatives.”  It wasn’t…..unless you’re trying to signal that you think right wing terrorism should be normalized and mainstreamed.  In the context of those comments, I’m afraid this may be another example of how Malkin is quietly reinforcing the self-justification of violent right wing extremists.  Because there’s one way to read that comment that isn’t incoherent—-if you’re suggesting that domestic terrorists have a right to act out violently in revolt, then you’d take umbrage with criminal sanctions against terrorism, which you’d call “dissent”.  Comments like hers are perfect in that way.  Most of us think, “What the fuck is she babbling about?”, but her readers who are congenial with the idea of domestic terrorism get reinforcement of the idea that acts of violence in service of their ideology are merely “dissent”. 

Minimizing the potential for right wing domestic terrorism goes hand in hand with the other favorite wingnut hobby: Accusing all Muslims of being terrorists.  Jeff Fecke linked this Politico story about a group of four batshit crazy Congress critters who want to launch an investigation against the Center for American-Islamic Relations, who they claim is “infiltrating” and spying by engaging in the same old lobbying efforts every other non-profit does. 

The proclamation from the four Republicans came in advance of a book, entitled “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” which includes a forward by Myrick. The author of the book, Dave Gaubatz, an anti-Islam activist who wrote last year that “a vote for Hussein Obama is a vote for Sharia Law.”

The lawmakers also released a one page “strategy” document they said they obtained from CAIR. But the document basically lays out a fairly straight forward public relations and lobbying strategy and indeed, one of the goals is “placing Muslim interns in congressional offices” and registering people to vote.

So there you have it—-in the world of wingnuts, Christian right wingers who actually plan acts of violence should be considered nothing but “dissenters” who should be ignored, but Muslims who engage in peaceful lobbying efforts should be treated like they’re a terrorist organization.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 11:25 AM • (66) Comments

Aren’t these the same people that say that women are to blame for being beaten by their intimate partners because they don’t just leave and stay away?

Maybe their leaving and saying away would be criminalizing dissent?  By wingnut anitlogic, that is ...

Comment #1: Ms Kate  on  10/15  at  11:58 AM

Everyday I say “There’s nothing they can do or say that will shock me anymore”. And everyday, they do or say something that shocks me.

“Christian right wingers who actually plan acts of violence should be considered nothing but “dissenters” who should be ignored, but Muslims who engage in peaceful lobbying efforts should be treated like they’re a terrorist organization.”

that is really hitting the nail on the head. If your not a christian, you belong in jail.

Comment #2: Mark  on  10/15  at  11:59 AM

I keep getting stuck at the word “criminalizing” in that quote.  I don’t think that word means what she thinks it means.

Comment #3: preying mantis  on  10/15  at  12:10 PM

But naturally Malkin says that merely not visiting South Carolina is ”criminalizing dissent”.

She Lies!

Conservatives want only their own ilk to vote—look at the ACORN sting.

Comment #4: Hector B.  on  10/15  at  12:11 PM

<blockquote>I don’t think that word means what she thinks it means.</blockquote)

True, Mantis.  However, I don’t think most words in the dictionary mean what she thinks they mean, or wishes they meant.

Comment #5: Magis  on  10/15  at  12:15 PM

The president’s spouse must go to places where she will face angry, possibly armed and unhinged protesters, or the terrorists have won. That’s why Laura Bush made so many trips to—oh, I forgot, there weren’t a lot of armed protesters against her husband.

Comment #6: paul  on  10/15  at  12:19 PM

So…by not going to SC and getting herself hurt or killed, Michelle Obama is oppressing the freedom-loving, conservative patriots who just want to express their “dissent” to her personally.  Is that right?

On that note, I’m pretty fed up with theocratic assholes who think that their First Amendment right to be free from government impediments of speech means that they are allowed to force any particular person to listen to them. 

Chicago just passed a law creating 50 foot buffer zone around abortion providers’ workspaces.  Within 50 feet of the building, you cannot approach someone closer than 8 feet without her permission.  The ACLU is actually on the theocrats’ side in this, evil socialists they are, b/c it’s hard to leaflet from 8 feet away.

Anyway, tons of screaming about how these wonderful people who never harmed anyone and have saved countless baybeez are being discriminated against and not being allowed their freedom of speech.

You can talk.  You just can’t talk to a specific person if they don’t want to listen: that’s called harassment. 

Specifically to this post, no one is stopping anyone in SC from dissenting.  If they can’t behave like civilized people or like Americans, then it’s their own fault if they can’t have nice things like a visit from the First Lady.

Comment #7: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  10/15  at  12:23 PM

Remember when Bush was in office and anyone critizing him was branded as a traitor and UnAmerican? Why is it ok to do that to President Obama?

Comment #8: pitbullgirl65  on  10/15  at  12:41 PM

I worked for a non-profit educational organization. In September 2001 Laura Bush was scheduled to address our school year opening assembly which that year was held in Madison Square Garden’s Paramount Theater. The security precautions were extensive, to say the least. There were two sweeps of the theater, the organization staff had to arrive extra early to be let in between those sweeps, and the volunteers also had to go through security checks. Those are the measures we could see, I don’t know what was done or planned that we did not see (like the actual sweeps of the auditorium).  And the private breakfast meeting we had planned for her with a selection of our larger donors was canceled.  I can see where the agencies involved would not want to send Michelle Obama anyplace for which they had security concerns. Malkin is an idiot.

Comment #9: PurpleGirl  on  10/15  at  12:48 PM

“Remember when Bush was in office and anyone critizing him was branded as a traitor and UnAmerican? Why is it ok to do that to President Obama?

Duh! He’s black!

Comment #10: Mark  on  10/15  at  12:50 PM

“But the document basically lays out a fairly straight forward public relations and lobbying strategy and indeed, one of the goals is “placing Muslim interns in congressional offices” and registering people to vote.”

OMFG!  We’ve got to go to DEFCON 5!...

Comment #11: MikeEss  on  10/15  at  12:53 PM

“Remember when Bush was in office and anyone critizing him was branded as a traitor and UnAmerican? Why is it ok to do that to President Obama?”

Remember when the late and unlamented Jesse Helms told President Clinton not to visit any military bases in North Carolina because the troops might not be able to contain their natural hatred for Clinton?

The rules are different for Democrats and Republicans…

Comment #12: MikeEss  on  10/15  at  01:02 PM

I lived in Georgia for 12 years and as a white male form the south, I didn’t feel comfortable visiting South Carolina, and it was just across the river. If I were Obama, (Barrack or Michelle) I wouldn’t go down that stretch of 95 without a Kevlar vest.

Comment #13: Keith  on  10/15  at  01:09 PM

Malkin is an idiot.

This just in…

Comment #14: liberalrob  on  10/15  at  01:19 PM

I don’t get the Hussein Obama. Barack is just as weird and Middle Easterny as Hussein. All they have left is sputtering rage. However, when the only point is to halt, kill, and destroy, sputtering rage is all you really need.

Comment #15: Seebach  on  10/15  at  01:20 PM

Back when The Tinpot Warlord Jesse Helms roamed free, I thought North Carolina was nuts. (You remember, “If President Clinton comes down here for a visit he’d better bring security because we have a lot of military bases in NC”, right.)

Is there a dime’s worth of difference between the two states now?

Comment #16: ThresherK  on  10/15  at  01:25 PM

“South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for a lunatic asylum.”—James L. Petigru, 1860

Comment #17: rea  on  10/15  at  01:25 PM

“Is there a dime’s worth of difference between the two states now?”

Pam Spaulding lives in NC, so that’s a plus for them…

Comment #18: MikeEss  on  10/15  at  01:30 PM

For being such a lovely woman, Michelle Malkin has one of the most unpleasant personalities I’ve ever seen.

And it has little to do with her politics; it’s all about the way in which Malkin conducts herself: rude, obsessive, caustic, paranoid, and bitter - with a dash of nativism tossed in for good measure (which is ironic as hell considering she’s a first generation American).

Comment #19: CHV  on  10/15  at  01:37 PM

Aren’t these the same people that say that women are to blame for being beaten by their intimate partners because they don’t just leave and stay away?

Was Bill Hicks a right-winger? I didn’t get that impression.

Comment #20: snobographer  on  10/15  at  01:39 PM

I don’t get the Hussein Obama

Successor to Walker Bush, Jefferson Clinton, Herbert Walker Bush, Wilson Reagan, and Earl Carter*.

And we haven’t executed any dictators named Barack lately.

*I didn’t look up any of those. I hope you’re suitably impressed.

Comment #21: Hershele Ostropoler  on  10/15  at  01:41 PM

In their defense, North Carolina did vote for Obama by a narrow margin. And they voted out Elizabeth Dole as their Senator after she made those horrible remarks about her opponent not being a good Christian. That may qualify as a dimes worth of difference.

Comment #22: DC Fem  on  10/15  at  01:41 PM

Not visiting someone is the same as criminalizing them? I see why my mother-in-law is so upset with me now.

Comment #23: kristin  on  10/15  at  01:53 PM

Let me see if I’ve got this right. Michelle Obama is a big meaniepants for thinking all the people who make noises suggesting they might like to kill her would actually do something so terrible as act on all their veiled threats. That’s “criminalising dissent” according to Malkin? Those dissenters are nice boys, they’d never do anything really wrong.

However if something did happen in South Carolina I guess it would be Michelle Obama’s own stupid fault for ignoring the hostile climate and visiting there anyway. She should have been able to tell how dangerous those people are.

So the process is to normalise right wing terrorism the way rape is normalised, so that the threat of it is always in the air and it’s always the victim’s fault when it actually does happen. You know, for ignoring all those constant threats.

I hope I haven’t got it right, because that makes me feel ill.

Comment #24: daisyparker  on  10/15  at  01:54 PM

Two things bug me about this:

1. They are blaming Michelle, when in fact it’s probably her security detail that would yay or nay a visit to any particular place. It’s not like she sits around all day and studies nutjobs in order to decide on where to travel next.

2. People assume that the SC nutjobs they hear about on the news “aren’t that bad” or “it’s only a couple” so “why are they being wimps?”. Please. Do they think presidential/first lady security details READ THE NEWS to study the dangerousness of a location? Yeah right. They probably have information about scary people we don’t know about yet and they wouldn’t broadcast that information to world if there was an investigation going on.

And you know what? If there’s a little bit (or a lot) of it just being a snub for the gorilla-type comments,  so what? If well-known, “important” South Carolinians are saying this sort of thing, god only knows what the “regular” people are willing to say and do.

Comment #25: akinoluna  on  10/15  at  01:54 PM

Uhm, after a couple exchanges in my local paper (yeah, I know, why bother, but someone has to put in a fact or two on occasion), I’m wondering if there’s been a push from the rightwing leaders to take more than verbal action.  From two separate posters, there were the “the debates over[sic]” and “your sides the insurgency so we have a right to put down an insurgency with force” threats.

Anybody know if their usual shit is more shitty than usual?

Comment #26: phylosopher  on  10/15  at  02:16 PM

If I were Michelle Obama, I wouldn’t want to visit a state that flies the Confederate flag on their Statehouse, either.  In fact, if I were me, I wouldn’t want to visit that state.

Comment #27: Denise  on  10/15  at  02:17 PM

I still want to know who taught right-wingers that their speech should have no consequences.  Did they all have those parents who let them throw temper tantrums in restaurants or what?

Comment #28: Mnemosyne  on  10/15  at  02:40 PM

Mnem:

I still want to know who taught right-wingers that their speech should have no consequences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Hypothetical_causes

Comment #29: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  10/15  at  02:47 PM

“Was Bill Hicks a right-winger? I didn’t get that impression.”

Bill Hicks was a legislator and/or judge?  Odd how that always gets left out of his bios.

Comment #30: preying mantis  on  10/15  at  02:54 PM

#30 - Is Michelle malkin a legislator or a judge? News to me. My point was, misgynistic victim-blaming isn’t exclusive to right-wingers. At all. A bit obvious, but it seemed a necessary point to make.

Comment #31: snobographer  on  10/15  at  03:10 PM

Is there a dime’s worth of difference between the two states now?

Seriously, SC exists to allow those in NC to make jokes about it. NC’s Triangle now has one of the highest concentrations of high-skilled, highly-educated people in the US. SC has mustard barbecue sauce. And Charleston. And Stephen Colbert.

Comment #32: pseudonymous in nc  on  10/15  at  03:31 PM

Don’t forget Asheville!

The East’s Answer to Taos!

Comment #33: shah8  on  10/15  at  03:38 PM

SC has mustard barbecue sauce. And Charleston. And Stephen Colbert.

Hey, give ‘em credit. At least they ditched that stupid law that required bars to stock booze only in those itty-bitty airline bottles.

Comment #34: Bitter Scribe  on  10/15  at  03:50 PM

Where was she when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney refused to visit Vermont?

Comment #35: Ben D.  on  10/15  at  04:00 PM

“Is Michelle malkin a legislator or a judge?”

I took the line as a reference to the habit South Carolinian legislators and judges have of going on record about how domestic violence victims don’t deserve protection from or judgments against their batterers due to their colossal and collective failure to magic the abusers out of their lives.  For instance, that time they decided that cock-fighting should be upgraded to a felony but domestic violence should remain a misdemeanor.

Comment #36: preying mantis  on  10/15  at  04:01 PM

“Not visiting someone is the same as criminalizing them?”

Sure, in the minds of people who think pointing out racism is racist; not believing in gods is a religion; and not being male as “asking for it”.  etc.

Comment #37: Gypsy Lee  on  10/15  at  04:09 PM

Really, it all begins with, malkin is an idiot.  Anything else just justifies her exceptionally disingenuous rants (I wouldn’t dignify them by calling them arguments).

Like any hysterical child (and this has nothing to do with malkin’s gender), she needs a nice, long time out.

Comment #38: ice weasel  on  10/15  at  04:12 PM

“michelle malkin is an idiot”

film at 11.

lest we all forget, it was S.C. that led the move for secession, and fired the first shots in the civil war. kind of ironic, since they were less than enthusiastic about breaking away from england.

my parents live in charleston (transplants, originally from nyc), so i spend a reasonable amount of time down their visiting. what i’ve learned, in the years since they relocated there, is that:

1. south carolinians (at least in charleston) are, as a whole, lovely people: charming, friendly, hospitable, regardless of race or gender.

2. they are, as a whole (but mostly white), nuts. they’d sooner spend money on continuing to fight the civil war, then on their (pathetic) public school system. by the same token, they happily gorge on federal largesse, from the huge military bases, while at the same time complaining that their taxes are too high. the nearly total lack of self-awareness is a thing to behold.

i say this as one who has come to like SC, in spite of itself.

Comment #39: cpinva  on  10/15  at  04:19 PM

Charleston is to South Carolina as Austin is to Texas.

Comment #40: Ben D.  on  10/15  at  04:27 PM

Jefferson Clinton

That sounds like the adopted name of a porn star.

Comment #41: Ben D.  on  10/15  at  04:55 PM

JFK is criminalizing dissent if he doesn’t visit Dallas.

Michelle Malin is like the siren (the loudest one) drawing people to the rocks, for anyone who pays her any serious attention.

Comment #42: News Nag  on  10/15  at  05:19 PM

”kind of ironic, since they were less than enthusiastic about breaking away from england.”

Not all that ironic, although most slaves at the time believed that a British victory would lead to the abolition of slavery, and many (most) individual British & Loyalist officers give aid and comfort to slaves who escaped from known rebels, British government policy was to explicitly refuse to free any slaves just so that they would not upset loyalist slave owners

Comment #43: jefft452  on  10/15  at  05:25 PM

I don’t get the Hussein Obama. Barack is just as weird and Middle Easterny as Hussein.

Saddam Hussein.  That’s why.  Hussein=evil arab dictator, in their minds.

Comment #44: liberalrob  on  10/15  at  05:27 PM

<blcockquote>
Do they think presidential/first lady security details READ THE NEWS to study the dangerousness of a location? Yeah right. They probably have information about scary people we don’t know about yet and they wouldn’t broadcast that information to world if there was an investigation going on.
</blockquote>

And by information, you mean death threats made by local nut jobs. While none have been made public, we do know that the Obamas were receiving death threats even before the election, which is why they had to have Secret Service protection even before moving into the White House.

I would be in no big hurry to visit a state known for it’s virulent racism and notorious for being the ones to start a civil war.

Comment #45: Keith  on  10/15  at  05:33 PM

I spent a summer in Tennessee in 1960 as a child when my father worked there.

Not only did Colored and White drinking fountains and bathrooms shock the hell out of me, but as a (then) Catholic, I felt my life threatened.

Going to Mass the first Sunday there, my mother complimented one of the church ladies on their pretty white building.

The parishoner replied something to the effect, “Yes, we like it, and we’ve managed to keep it for awhile—all our previous churches were burned down.”

Haven’t been further south than Virginia since then. (Except for Florida, and the northern border of that is too damn close to Georgia for my taste.)

You can say that half a century has passed, but South Carolina is south of Tennesee, and nothing I’ve read about or heard from that state has tempted me in the slightest.

If I were Michelle Obama I’d avoid that swath of the South like the plague.

Not only for security reasons (and those would be monumental), but why go anywere you know there’d be armed protestors with signs comparing her and the President to apes and Nazis?

Comment #46: judybrowni  on  10/15  at  05:34 PM

The East’s Answer to Taos!

Oh, that was last year; it’s now ‘the Boulder of the East’.

Comment #47: pseudonymous in nc  on  10/15  at  05:38 PM

“and many (most) individual British & Loyalist officers give aid and comfort to slaves who escaped from known rebels”

PS
Oliver DeLancey (Who Delancey street and square in NYC is named after) was somewhat notorious for this, to the point where slave owners would come complain only to find his ex-slaves in uniform with muskets and fixed bayonets and be told I don’t see any black guys, do you see any black guys? None of these guys are your property right? I didn’t think so

Comment #48: jefft452  on  10/15  at  05:53 PM

The Republican’s just keep digging their grave deeper. When this satire was produced a couple months ago, it seemed over the top. Today, it looks like a documentary:

http://bit.ly/fxv3G

Comment #49: bondwooley  on  10/15  at  06:05 PM

Not only for security reasons (and those would be monumental), but why go anywere you know there’d be armed protestors with signs comparing her and the President to apes and Nazis?

A couple of reasons.  First off, there are a lot of African Americans in South Carolina.  Not enough to put the state over the top in a Presidential Election, but enough to want to stop by and pay your respects.  They donate money to the campaign just like everyone else.

Second off, balls.  Walking into the state that clung to the Stars and Bars and receiving a standing ovation as a black woman makes a very big point to everyone watching.  The flow of history is in our favor, but spotlights like that really drive the point home.

Comment #50: Zifnab  on  10/15  at  06:16 PM

“Second off, balls.  Walking into the state that clung to the Stars and Bars and receiving a standing ovation as a black woman makes a very big point to everyone watching.  The flow of history is in our favor, but spotlights like that really drive the point home.”

Agreed

But then again, instead of just not going or saying “I have other commitments” you leak that you are refusing to go because of security concerns makes a very big point too

Comment #51: jefft452  on  10/15  at  06:22 PM

I don’t get the Hussein Obama. Barack is just as weird and Middle Easterny as Hussein.

Perhaps, but as far as I know, Iraq never had a dictator named Saddam Barack in their history.

The Hussein thing isn’t just about trying to imply that Obama is a secret Muslim, it’s also about trying to conflate him in a not-very-subtle manner with a pretty universally reviled dictator (no, I’m not even remotely a supporter of the Iraq War, but virtually no one disputes the fact that Saddam Hussein was, in fact, a mass-murdering asshole and a generally not very good human being).

Calling President Obama by his middle name is specifically about trying to connect Obama to Saddam Hussein, even if only in the subconscious.

Comment #52: DTG in STL  on  10/15  at  06:30 PM

Back when The Tinpot Warlord Jesse Helms roamed free, I thought North Carolina was nuts. (You remember, “If President Clinton comes down here for a visit he’d better bring security because we have a lot of military bases in NC”, right.)

Is there a dime’s worth of difference between the two states now?

Absolutely there is.  It’s called Research Triangle.  The exact same U.S. Senate seat once held by the fiercely racist conservative asshat Jesse Helms is now held by Democrat Kay Hagan.  In the 2008 U.S. presidential election, one state went to Obama, the other went to McCain.

I don’t think North Carolina is the new Berkeley, California or anything, but it’s definitely become a more progressive state than its neighbor to the south.

Comment #53: DTG in STL  on  10/15  at  06:36 PM

Ah, Tennesee. About five years ago I met a random girl in Tennesee who, upon hearing that I was currently living in Albany, Georgia, made a face and said, “I don’t know how you can live around all those black people.”

Comment #54: akinoluna  on  10/15  at  07:21 PM

lest we all forget, it was S.C. that led the move for secession, and fired the first shots in the civil war. kind of ironic, since they were less than enthusiastic about breaking away from england.

So… “South Carolina, where we hate the US every step of the way.” I’ll keep that in mind.

Comment #55: StarStorm  on  10/15  at  07:28 PM

Back when The Tinpot Warlord Jesse Helms roamed free,...

I’m still happy he’s dead.

Comment #56: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  10/15  at  07:38 PM

PS
Oliver DeLancey (Who Delancey street and square in NYC is named after) was somewhat notorious for this, to the point where slave owners would come complain only to find his ex-slaves in uniform with muskets and fixed bayonets and be told I don’t see any black guys, do you see any black guys? None of these guys are your property right? I didn’t think so

Do you have a link for a bio on this guy, more than on the Wikipedia?  He sounds like an interesting character.

Comment #57: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  10/15  at  07:49 PM

“Do you have a link for a bio on this guy, more than on the Wikipedia?  He sounds like an interesting character.”

sorry no, my knowledge of him comes from pre internet days when I was a AWI reenactor

He was an interesting guy, and a little bit crooked
He was mostly a loyalist because Livingston was a rebel and he hated Livingston with a passion. Delanceys Brigade served as military police in NYC and Long Island and he used it to extort money from people who were in debt to him.  The brigade had a reputation as quasi-criminal mob of cattle thieves until they were sent to Carolinas where they had the reputation as the most disciplined and least atrocity prone of all the loyalist troops.

Specifically had the right to recruit “Mulattoes and sailors” written into his Beating Warrant (authorization to form a regiment) and stretched it to take escaped slaves and deserters from the Royal Navy

His family was on the losing side of the religious wars in France and went to England, on the loosing side of English Civil war and ran to New York, on the loosing side of American Rev and moved to Canada

Comment #58: jefft452  on  10/15  at  10:19 PM

PS
One private in DeLancey’s Brigade was arrested for being a Royal Navy deserter, he was acquitted because his ships records had him listed as “Discharged, Dead”
Having been shot in the stomach, his Captain just left him on the dock when his ship made port and marked him as dead so he wouldn’t have give him his back pay

Comment #59: jefft452  on  10/15  at  10:45 PM

South Carolina’s problem is this:

Florida has everything from Orland/Tampa south. Virginia has the D.C. suburbs, and to a lesser extent Richmond and Hampton Roads. North Carolina has the research triangle and Charlotte. George has Atlanta.

South Carolina only has smaller cities and rural areas. There’s no big metro area to balance out the rural crazy.

Comment #60: Ben D.  on  10/15  at  11:29 PM

Holy Crap!
Any body else see this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33332436/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

“HAMMOND, La. - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.”

Comment #61: jefft452  on  10/15  at  11:45 PM

Holy Crap!
Any body else see this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33332436/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

“HAMMOND, La. - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.”

Yeah, I caught that.

Here’s the sickest irony of that story… the human pile of shit judge stated that he won’t do interracial marriages because of all the problems that children of mixed race couples experience in life.

And this news story comes out on the very same day when the most famous child of a mixed-race couple in American history, a man who was chosen by 70 Million people to serve in the the most powerful job on earth last November, delivered a speech in New Orleans, Louisiana… less than 50 miles away from Hammond, where this asshole stuck in 1950 gets to preside in a judicial office.

Comment #62: DTG in STL  on  10/15  at  11:59 PM

”His family was on the losing side of the religious wars in France and went to England, on the loosing side of English Civil war and ran to New York, on the loosing side of American Rev and moved to Canada”

The motto on the DeLancey coat of arms “Faithful, but Unlucky”

Comment #63: jefft452  on  10/16  at  12:51 AM

Holy Crap!
Any body else see this?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33332436/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Oh, yeah. After this dude, and all the shit out of Katrina (still) I’ve been saying all day that Nina Simone’s “Mississippi Goddamn” needs to be remade for Louisiana.

Comment #64: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  10/16  at  12:51 AM

“Here’s the sickest irony of that story… the human pile of shit judge stated that he won’t do interracial marriages because of all the problems that children of mixed race couples experience in life.”

Given that one of the problems of interracial couples and their children in Tangipahoa Parish is the existence of Keith Bardwell and the fact that he’s so concerned about, maybe he should just lock himself in his basement and leave decent people alone for the rest of his natural life.

And:
“Neither Bardwell nor the couple immediately returned phone calls from The Associated Press. But Bardwell told the Daily Star of Hammond that he was not a racist.”

I’m going to have a seance later and see if I can get Jefferson Frickin’ Davis to admit he’s a racist. And to just mention to him who’s president.

Comment #65: witless chum  on  10/16  at  09:55 AM

” Given that one of the problems of interracial couples and their children in Tangipahoa Parish is the existence of Keith Bardwell and the fact that he’s so concerned about, maybe he should just lock himself in his basement and leave decent people alone for the rest of his natural life.”

“Oh Mr. <strike>Block</strike> Bardwell, you were born by mistake
  You take the cake, you make me ache
  Go tie a rock on your block and then jump in the lake
  Kindly do that for Liberty’s sake!” - Joe Hill

Comment #66: jefft452  on  10/16  at  12:39 PM
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