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Twitter: UR DOING IT WRONG

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Apologies to Chris Clarke for stealing his joke.

Blogging from me this week might be sparse, since I’m going to SXSW for the music portion—-I do intend to update with thoughts from the always thought-provoking festival that tends to foreground what’s going to be trendy.  With the concept of trends on the mind, though, I want to comment on this research on Twitter that was being reported in tones ranging from sad to dire. (Which sort of surprised me, since it just reinforces prior research on who uses Twitter how much.)  Only 21% of Twitter uses are “active”, defined with a floor that’s way too low as having at least 10 followers, 10 followees, and having tweeted 10 times.  Considering how many people like myself are on it all damn day, tweeting our heads off (I’ve tweeted over 4,900 times), I’m going to guess that the people who are really, truly active on Twitter are an even smaller group than that. 

This is treated as terrible news, because it means Twitter users aren’t “social”, whatever that means.  But it’s actually the sort of news you should expect.  Online life differs from offline life in some ways, but not that much.  And spheres of influence are an aspect of online life that is simply replicating offline life.  Remember that whole cool part of The Tipping Point where Malcolm Gladwell talked about how certain trends start with a few people and then radiate out rapidly once adopted by those people who are highly influential on a whole lot of people?  That sort of thing is happening online.  A few people exert outsized influence, and most people like it that way.  Because it creates order and trust.  If everyone out there was just firing on all cylinders at once, generating content with no filters, the information overload would paralyze us. I think a system where a relatively small percentage of people on Twitter carry the weight of pushing out information on it all day—-and having other people move that information with retweets and replies—-is a fine system. It evolved that way because it’s working for people. 

I suppose the fear is that people aren’t using it for back-and-forth conversations, but instead are using it to create a multi-layered news and information aggregator, one where you can rapidly customize your feed to find out exactly what certain people are thinking and talking about—-and not what others are thinking or talking about.  But back and forth conversations on Twitter can get dull really fast.  It’s just not good for that.  It’s a lot better for agenda-setting.  I suppose the fact that some people are hugely influential and most people have little influence is supposed to worry us, but I’m pretty sanguine about it.  The people who don’t try to set the agenda do influence the system, because they decide who will in fact set the agenda by giving them attention.  They decide who they trust or find interesting by following them and retweeting their tweets, and that helps other people decide who they trust, and the people who get that trust put in them are just saying stuff that people are interested in, so what’s the harm?  It’s really how human systems work. 

And so what if people link a lot?  They usually say something useful about the link, and often that’s all you need.  It’s great that influential people can exert their influence efficiently, I say.  Better yet, it seems Twitter is encouraging specialization.  People who start getting a lot of followers generally have an idea of what their followers care about, and they start to speak to that subject more and more, and in the process, become more proficient and better aggregators and disseminators.  And their audiences benefit from their growing expertise. 

I don’t see a downside.  Facebook’s interface seems better equipped for maintaining daily contact with your friends than Twitter, which reads more like an endless stream of information.  And that people aren’t keeping regular, meaningful contact with dozens of people a day doesn’t bother me.  We don’t have the time or cognitive space to regard that many people at all points in time like intimates.  But if we have casual information and trend-setting content streaming at us from specialized sources, everyone gets a little of what they want.  I think it’s working out great.  And if Twitter wants to make money at this, they might consider working with the needs of the users they have, instead of being upset that we aren’t doing a “better” job of using their service as they originally envisioned. 

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 09:21 AM • (32) Comments

I like back and forth on twitter, but often I’ll use it to follow things like my hometown newspaper or the nation, because I want to read their articles, and since I’m on twitter anyway, I just like it being in one place. I wonder if they count people with locked twitters? I prefer twitter to facebook as facebook has your mom, your boss, and random people from high school on it, and twitter is more anon.

Comment #1: shannon  on  03/15  at  09:46 AM

It’s an endless stream of something, alright.

Comment #2: norbizness  on  03/15  at  10:02 AM

What would Paul Revere have done with twitter? He’d have been all over that!

There is a really good animated short that covers this ... FAIL WHALE!!!

Comment #3: Ms Kate  on  03/15  at  10:25 AM

Ah ... here we go . . . SuperNews Twouble with Twitter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2HAroA12w

Comment #4: Ms Kate  on  03/15  at  10:27 AM

Conversely, I tend to de-follow those people who over-tweet.  I’m about to stop following Roger Ebert because my feed’s become all Ebert all the time, and however “influential” he is and however much I enjoy many of his observations and links…it’s overload. I use Twitter like a Ning app, almost, watching what my circle of online film critics/buds have to say. There’s back and forth, announcement of new reviews/posts, festival dispatches, all good. But yeah, I kick the over-sharers and over-talkers pretty fast, or anyone who “dominates” my feed.

Comment #5: Ranylt  on  03/15  at  10:41 AM

That’s why I don’t follow Amanda Palmer any more.  And yeah- Ebert is pushing it too.

I read it for headlines, and don’t tweet, because the people I want to follow on Twitter aren’t the people I want to talk to, and the people I want to talk to I’m friends with on Facebook.  It would be overkill to have them in both places, and the one person who falls into both groups, well, I read his stuff twice.

Comment #6: drachonfire  on  03/15  at  10:54 AM

The over-tweeters don’t seem to get to me, since I follow like nearly 400 people.  But there are a couple who show up a lot even then!  I’m not naming names, though.

Comment #7: Amanda Marcotte  on  03/15  at  11:20 AM

I always feel like the people who write negative articles about communications technology think that the past was all small-village life where people talked, talked, talked all day and everyone was close.  But I remember being in college in the late ‘80s and feeling really isolated - I couldn’t afford to travel back to London constantly, and social relationships were really hit or miss, especially since I was rooming in a private house (common for my University town), not in college rooms.  It wasn’t all sitting on front porches and talking as the world strolled past your stoop.

Face to face talking isn’t required for social interaction, and as far as I can tell, we have much greater interaction with far greater numbers of people than we have ever had, since it is now possible to converse with people all over the world (my blog has followers in Australia and NZ, and I’m in the US) incredibly cheaply.

I just don’t see a downside, I really don’t.  This idea that only meatspace interaction counts is very last century.

Comment #8: attack_laurel  on  03/15  at  12:01 PM

If you ask me, I’d say I never use Twitter, but according to that classification scheme I’m an “active” user!

Comment #9: Ben Alpers  on  03/15  at  12:29 PM

I grew up in a small town.  It’s true that you see someone you know every time you turn around.  It’s also true that this is far from an unmitigated blessing.  In fact, it makes simply running to the store to pick up some small thing fraught.  I’ve literally ducked behind something because I don’t want to talk to someone right now more times than I can count.

Comment #10: Amanda Marcotte  on  03/15  at  12:30 PM

I tend to follow for awhile, then drop both the the folks who twitter all the time (especially those whose blogs I read, and who just tweet a line every time they post something), and those who don’t tweet enough (though I haven’t quite figured out what “enough” is—I guess I’d like once a day maybe…), even though I originally signed on because they said something smart and interesting, on twitter or elsewhere.  But, really, even for “news” Twitter too often feels like information overload—or, not even that, for too many topics, Twitter seems like too much junk overwhelming the much smaller percentage of interesting commentary/news.

Comment #11: elisabeth51  on  03/15  at  12:36 PM

I’m not a very frequent tweeter, but I love being able to scan my twitter feed and get a quick “pulse read” for what’s going on at a particular point in time. I see key points on major issues of the day, and I sometimes learn about things I might otherwise have missed. And not infrequently, I get a good laugh. I love snarky tweeters.

I would find it horribly frustrating for trying to maintain real relationships, however. It’s like trying to have a serious conversation in a noisy bar. Too much activity. It’s better to just accept it for what it is, a big noisy public space with a lot of ephemeral energy. A combination of Speaker’s Corner and a rave.

Comment #12: Phoebe Fay  on  03/15  at  12:37 PM

Personally, I love twitter. I didn’t get it at first, and followed a bunch of people who were my friends, but were more interesting to talk to than to get tweets from. IT sucked.

But now I’ve added a few hundred people in my area, and I get all sorts of interesting news I didn’t before. It’s really nice as a news/info aggregator, because there’s an element of both customization and randomness.  You get the small, out-of-the-way stories and can even be part of making them get big by retweeting them. 

Only thing I totally don’t get is the follow friday and Thanks tweets. Many of my tweets are just people saying “follow this person” with no link to an interesting tweet, or a thank you to people who retweeted them.  Why do we have to act like retweeting is a charity? If it’s interesting, I’ll retweet you, and it’s not like i’ll stop retweeting you if you don’t thank me. And it’s not like I’ll start following someone if you give a shout out to them for retweeting your post either—especially if I don’t know what, exactly they found interesting.

Can someone please explain these two phenomena?

Comment #13: t-ster  on  03/15  at  12:39 PM

Also, has anyone really successfully harnessed the hash tag?  It feels like a vestigial feature at this point…

Comment #14: t-ster  on  03/15  at  12:41 PM

Not to flood the comments, but it’s a good way to get information you are seeking as well.  For instance, I needed a paper that I didn’t have access to. I sent a question out to tweeps w/my email and within 15 min. I had the paper I needed. 

It’s more effective as an information access tool because I follow people in my field, whereas my facebook friends a) are not all in my field and b) don’t tend to have facebook on, all the time, ambiently, and so they wait awhile before getting back to me.

Comment #15: t-ster  on  03/15  at  12:43 PM

Well fscking duh. If you’re in a face-to-face group, you’ll see that a few people tend to be responsible for the lion’s share of the conversation. If you were on usenet, you knew that for everyone who posted there were 10-100 who lurked. If you look at blog stats there are dozens or hundreds of lurkers for every commenter. Facebook feeds, pretty much any conversational medium. Duh.

Sometimes people will be talkers about one set of things, listeners about another, but in general not everyone wants to go all MAS about everything that’s going on in their world and that of their friends. I’m surprised the numbers are that high, but of course those thresholds are way too low, and also skewed by the malware-bots. (Actually for some people those thresholds aren’t too low at all; you can have very nice active social circles of half a dozen people or so.  But then the tweeting numbers would be higher.)

Comment #16: paul  on  03/15  at  12:47 PM

*Puts on computer-mediated discourse analysis researcher hat.*

Duh.

Pretty much for any Internet-based medium of communication, participation is going to follow Zipf’s law where 10% of the population accounts for 90% of the activity. There are a ton of reasons for this, including the fact that people will often sign up for a service at the drop of a hat and never use it. But it’s at the point where services that don’t follow Zipf’s law would be a major ground-shattering development.

Comment #17: CBrachyrhynchos  on  03/15  at  01:05 PM

When I used firefox it was convenient because the little box in the corner would tell me whenever there was something new at the new york times website. The rest of the time I regretted having added anyone else but in fairness it was my own fault for adding Newt Gingrinch because i thought it would be funny

Comment #18: pharmakos  on  03/15  at  01:05 PM

And if Twitter wants to make money at this, they might consider working with the needs of the users they have, instead of being upset that we aren’t doing a “better” job of using their service as they originally envisioned

It’s a frequent phenomenon that tech company founders get so wrapped up in the coolness of their original concept that they’re not willing to bend, and even get pouty, when the product/service isn’t used as designed. I suspect they had hoped users would be as engaged with Twitter followers/followees as they are with Facebook friends, but the two sites are different beasts.

The low threshold for an “active” Twitterer indicates that they do understand the phenomenon of low lurker-to-participant rations in any on-line forum, from BBSs to Usenet to Web forums, but even when they try to juke the stats you still end up with a Pareto distribution.

Twitter is definitely a useful business tool: a good way to send out alerts and status updates, create an on-the-fly liveblog, build brand loyalty, monitor trends/buzz, and have some transparent back-and-forth with customers. Facebook, on the other hand, seems to work better as a gateway to other apps, be they general ones like photo sharing or custom-built ones like branded games.

Only thing I totally don’t get is the follow friday and Thanks tweets. Many of my tweets are just people saying “follow this person” with no link to an interesting tweet, or a thank you to people who retweeted them.  Why do we have to act like retweeting is a charity?

It’s an ad-hoc social meme that grew in the absence of a formal social capital mechanism (ratings, cred, trust, badges, whuffie, what have you) offered by Twitter. “Number of followers” is a nice metric,  but it doesn’t say much about the quality of Tweets, especially within the context of a given hashtag.

Also, has anyone really successfully harnessed the hash tag?  It feels like a vestigial feature at this point…

Some companies are trying to use them as folksonomic tags for trend-tracking, but since there’s no semantic control over them and because there are so many spammers who’ll jump on a popular hashtag, it’s like herding cats.

“Vestigial” isn’t really the right term, since the Hashtag (like Follow Friday and Retweets and the use of TinyURL-style linkes) was user-generated and not part of the original concept.

These ad-hoc memes are the flipside of the issue mentioned above: Twitter’s founders are probably cool with user-generated pseudo-functionality as long as it doesn’t crash the servers or break the 140-char limit. But Amanda is right: Twitter’s staff should be looking at these memes and formalising/improving upon them at ever opportunity. Otherwise, most of the money will go to other “aftermarket” companies and Twitter (unlike Facebook) won’t get a cut.

Comment #19: Gracchus.  on  03/15  at  01:25 PM

I’m more of a facebook type - but my husband, who very rarely tweets, is currently tracking several sources for information on which roads are flooded out and which bridges are closed and if he will - literally - have to launch the kayaks to get the kids home from school.

Twitter is good for stuff like that - emergent, important, small scale information.

Comment #20: Ms Kate  on  03/15  at  01:46 PM

Twitter is good for stuff like that - emergent, important, small scale information.

Well put. That’s one of the reasons it took centre stage during last year’s Iranian protests, and why it’s so popular at other, relatively de-centralised events, be it SXSW or anti-globalisation demos or trade shows or natural disasters. All that’s needed is an agreed-upon hashtag, and all the small pieces of such an occurrence can come together from multiple viewpoints.

Comment #21: Gracchus.  on  03/15  at  01:57 PM

Face to face talking isn’t required for social interaction, and as far as I can tell, we have much greater interaction with far greater numbers of people than we have ever had, since it is now possible to converse with people all over the world (my blog has followers in Australia and NZ, and I’m in the US) incredibly cheaply.

I love facebook and have many facebook friends, but I feel the friendships don’t get into the same depth as in face to face interactions because the body language and tone of voice is missing.  However, technologies like facebook are a net positive as it facilitates keeping in touch with friends located in geographically distant and sometimes inaccessible places. 

My main complaint regarding modern technology is with cell phones….and not with the technology itself, but the entitled social expectations people place on each other to be available 24/7 and the consequent abusing of this technology whether it is chatting at loud volumes in a university library where others are trying to do research, study, or just read; entitled idiots who answer their cell phones in class during lecture instead of stepping outside; or similar idiots who do the same/text during a show at a movie theater/live performance.  In short, the real problem is users who misuse/abuse such technologies without considering whether it is an appropriate venue or whether their actions will negatively impact others.  rolleyes

Comment #22: exholt  on  03/15  at  02:03 PM

When I used firefox it was convenient because the little box in the corner would tell me whenever there was something new at the new york times website.

I use the NYT RSS feeds (among others), Google Reader, and the “Google Reader Watcher” Firefox add-on. I geek out a bit by running some of my “firehose” feeds through Yahoo Pipes filters, but that’s not really necessary with the NYT feeds, where I’m more open to serendipity within selected content areas.

Comment #23: Gracchus.  on  03/15  at  02:06 PM

I use Twitter only for posting business links and information. It’s the first result in a Google search for my name and I’m job hunting, to that works well. For this purpose, I really like.

As for actually GETTING information, it doesn’t seem that effective. There are some tweets I’ve found particularly useful or helpful but, overall, it’s a needle in a haystack.

That’s not to say that I’m using the app any differently. I think what it does say is that it’s not that useful an app. I don’t really see it as a microblog, like they’d like us to.

And, I don’t see it really all that social. People may “retweet” something you’ve posted or answer a question you asked, but overall it feels very siloed.

Comment #24: TexasKaren  on  03/15  at  02:16 PM

Ugh…Sorry for the typos.

Comment #25: TexasKaren  on  03/15  at  02:17 PM

My view on current communications technologies is much the same as exholt’s:  they are more or less net positives for me, but they definitely have a downside.  Relationships in physical space (I don’t like the term “meatspace”) aren’t without their challenges, either.  For me, it’s about striking a manageable balance between long-distance, technology-mediated relationships and more direct physical space relationships.

Comment #26: Linnaeus  on  03/15  at  02:37 PM

Gosh, I mostly use twitter to help people with their math homework (I run a constant search for “math help” and “math homework”). I didn’t realize that I was doing it wrong by not following enough people!

Comment #27: Llelldorin  on  03/15  at  04:01 PM

I’m on an international networking site out of Japan; most folks from Asia, but many from all over the world.  As many of the people on the sections I use want to learn English from native speakers from a particular place [or other languages-my spouse got me onto it because he was using it to brush up on his Japanese and Chinese (Mandrin) and kept meeting interesting people], have cultural info exchanges, general use groups.  Since so many people are using it in 2nd or 3rd languages or are mostly lurkers, each of the groups tends to have a handful of very active posters and huge numbers of readers only with a number of rare posters thrown in.

Comment #28: helen w. h.  on  03/15  at  05:30 PM

Nine in ten people who try an online service (like Twitter, Facebook, etc) don’t come back.

This is a fact that is often glossed over in the numbers.  When a service can manage a conversion rate higher than this, and is honest about giving those stats… Then I’ll pay attention.

I know my sister uses Facebook as does 50% of her highschool class and teachers.  So I know it’s popular.  But I also know Facebook says it has enough accounts for every adult in the US.  And I know that means exactly squat.

Comment #29: Crissa  on  03/15  at  06:34 PM

I don’t own a mobile phone or have access to social networking stuff during business hours.

I do have a twitter account, but I’ve dropped the prolific tweeters (twits?) in favor of using the service as an aggregator for a handful of friends who’ve dropped off slower moving venues that I can read once a day (in the evening) and a couple of local news/announcement services (such as “will my office be closed tomorrow?”).

A power user, I am not.

Comment #30: Thena, Sultana of Stale Raisin Bread  on  03/15  at  06:53 PM

Amanda,
off topic…if you get a chance check out the band Lunic at SXSW this week.  I believe they are playing at Lucky Lounge on Thursday night and Sister’s Edge on Saturday night.  Great band, I think you’ll enjoy them!
Mak

Comment #31: makome  on  03/15  at  09:47 PM

The fact that you can play Hunt the Wumpus via Twitter makes it all worthwhile as far as I’m concerned.

Comment #32: mythago  on  03/16  at  01:23 AM
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