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Two-faced Sotomayor claims to dislike Brussel sprouts; concedes that they are a healthy food

This hit piece against Sotomayor by Sharon Thiemer that the AP chose to run is breathtaking in its perfection in the art of either stupidity or intellectual dishonesty, though I can’t tell which one it is.  The premise is that Sotomayor is two-faced, because she claims to have lived in a housing project as a child, but now she actually accepts a salary for her work as if she was a judge on the federal appeals court or something.  The other reason is that she’s Latina, but refuses to believe that this automatically makes her stupid.  And lest you think I’m kidding, witness the travesty.

On ethnicity, Sotomayor herself has recognized — and contributed to — the dichotomy. She proudly highlights her Puerto Rican roots but hasn’t always liked it when others have. She once took issue with a prospective employer who singled her out as a Latina with questions she viewed as offensive yet has shown a keen ethnic consciousness herself.

In a California speech in 2002 now under renewed scrutiny, she remarked that, on a court, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

In that same speech, “A Latina Judge’s Voice,” Sotomayor drew attention to cultural differences between Mexican-Americans and Puerto Rican-Americans, and she narrowed her ethnicity beyond American, Hispanic and Puerto Rican to “Newyorkrican.”

“For those of you on the West Coast who do not know what that term means: I am a born and bred New Yorker of Puerto Rican-born parents who came to the states during World War II,” she explained.

Yet years ago, during a recruiting dinner in law school at Yale, Sotomayor objected when a law firm partner asked whether she would have been admitted to the school if she weren’t Puerto Rican, and whether law firms did a disservice by hiring minority students the firms know are unqualified and will ultimately be fired.

Yep, she both believes herself to have Puerto Rican heritage, but doesn’t believe that this makes her too stupid to get into Princeton. This is a contradiction, apparently, but it’s hard to see how, unless you believe that everyone believes that Latinas are stupid by definition.  Otherwise, this doesn’t make sense and it’s like saying, “Sotomayor accepts that she has two legs, but hypocritically rejects it when people ask her if she’s a space alien.”  It doesn’t really follow, unless you assume that all two-legged creatures are space aliens, and not only that, but that everyone believes this.  Which makes you a loon.


The attempts to make Sotomayor seem like she’s two-faced because she sells herself as someone who had hardships that include living for a time in a housing project is even more bizarre.  Thiemer tries to cast doubt on this, even though she can’t actually come out and deny it. 

“Born in the South Bronx, she was raised in a housing project,” Obama said. “And even as she has accomplished so much in her life, she has never forgotten where she began, never lost touch with the community that supported her.”

Yet Sotomayor did not live her entire childhood in a housing project in the South Bronx — she spent most of her teenage years in a middle-class neighborhood, attending private school and winning scholarships to Princeton and then Yale.

She says the former like it contradicts the latter.  Let’s try this on in a situation where someone isn’t able to use her audience’s partisan and racist assumptions, and draining all the political hackery out of it.  Try it, for instance, on me.  “Marcotte claims to have been born and raised in El Paso, TX, where she claims she got her fondness for Mexican food at restaurants like Kiki’s and holes in the wall like Chico’s Tacos.  But she actually moved to Alpine at the age of 12, where she was exposed to steakhouses and even a McDonald’s.”  Perhaps people born into upper echelons of society don’t get this, but the big mass of little people—-working class, working poor, lower middle class, even middle class—-tend to see the fortunes rise and fall over a lifetime, sometimes making enough to move from one category to another.  This doesn’t negate their pasts or their futures.  Doing better one year than you did in the last isn’t like when Marty McFly got in a time machine and made his parents cool.  But according to Thiemer, that’s exactly how it works, because it’s especially two-faced for Sotomayor to point to humble beginnings when she dares to accept a paycheck that’s commiserate with the pay grade of her current occupation.

She now earns more than $200,000 a year and owns a condominium in Greenwich Village, a neighborhood of million-dollar-plus homes.

At this point, I suppose the reader is just supposed to be upset that a non-white guy is getting a white guy paycheck, because I really can’t see how this is supposed to be shocking.  Sotomayor isn’t actually trying to argue that she was plucked directly out of a housing project, or that she was scrapping by on minimum wage in the service industry.  I do believe she’s touting a biography of someone who rose from humble beginnings, a story that wouldn’t make sense if she didn’t actually rise.  Even thinking about how little this makes sense is giving me a headache. 

What’s interesting to me about this huge panic attack over Sotomayor, like Limbaugh claiming she’s a “racist” for daring to believe that she can be good at her job despite the lack of the pale-skinned penis in her pants, is how it’s blatantly predicated on the idea that there is no such thing as an intelligent Latina.  There’s no way around this.  If you honestly believe that being a non-white woman is a twofer advantage that poor, beleaguered white men don’t get, then you have to look around and see that most prestigious positions of power are occupied by white men, and you have to assume that white men must be superhumanly intelligent and awesome to be able to do so much with so many obstacles against them.  By god, what white men could do if someone just let them have some access to power without them scraping and fighting “reverse racism” every step of the way! 

The sort of thing demonstrates that we’re far from done with the effects of the Bush administration, even though we kicked them out of office.  We still have the war and the fucked up economy, and we’re still swimming in a sea of people who have contempt for reality, because it doesn’t fit what they need to believe.  Like these fucks with their “reverse racism” nonsense—-there isn’t really such a thing in the real world, and even if you can find someone out there who really buys into it, they’re a marginal person that certainly has no bearing on what Sonia Sotomayor believes.  It’s actually 15 kinds of ridiculous to suggest that someone who doesn’t accept that white people could be intelligent would get anywhere in our society, since white people are by and large the gatekeepers.  A fucking unicorn would have a better shot at the Supreme Court.  That our media is taking this “reverse racism” thing seriously enough that Sotomayor had to apologize for saying something that could be deliberately misconstrued is evidence in and of itself that she’s the real victim of discrimination here.  Being pushed into a situation where paranoia about her race is so bad that Sotomayor has to play along with an obvious lie to smooth falsely ruffled feathers is what racism actually looks like.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 06:35 PM • (62) Comments

Jesus, Mary & Joseph on the cross! This is just going to get worse & worse, isn’t it? In one day, I have read 4 articles whose basic premises would have gotten me laughed out of my writing class in college. At a STATE school!

Comment #1: Mark  on  05/29  at  06:56 PM

I’ve been trying to figure out if the wingnuts have an endgame in mind or if they’re suffering a public breakdown right in front of the world.  Can’t they see that for every rabid percentage point of The Base they keep they lose 4-5 among the un-rabid?...

Comment #2: MikeEss  on  05/29  at  06:56 PM

I’ve heard it theorized that they know they can’t block her, so they’re having a loud meltdown in order to maximize the fund-raising potential of this.

Comment #3: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/29  at  07:18 PM

I get it at last…unless you are a white male you don’t get to have a rags to riches story because meritocracy is supposedly only the preserve of Whiteness.  They don’t want POC to actually have the idea that if they work really hard maybe a few of us will rise above the barriers purposefully placed in our way,  I can smell the 2050 fear from here as elite white men line up to stand on their head and display their racism.

Comment #4: womanistmusings  on  05/29  at  07:23 PM

“Yep, she both believes herself to have Puerto Rican heritage, but doesn’t believe that this makes her too stupid to get into Princeton. This is a contradiction, apparently, but it’s hard to see how, unless you believe that everyone believes that Latinas are stupid by definition.”

Or that anyone who wasn’t stupid and still living in the housing project would do everything she could to mainstream and deny her roots - like Anglicizing her name and pretending she wasn’t Latina.

After all, she couldn’t possibly be PROUD of her achievements or heritage or anything, right?

If you assume that the higher levels of education and professional success are entirely white, then if she is the real deal, she would by definition be doing everything she could to minimize her background and fawn all over white people. She’d never really fit in, of course, but she might be tolerated. Otherwise she can’t be real - she has to be an artifact of undeserved affirmative action. And let her in, and she’ll sidle to the back door and prop it open for other undeserving people to sneak in.

Face it, these people don’t see a highly qualified professional when they look at her, and cannot see in her a Supreme Court Justice. When they look at her, they see a maid.

Comment #5: Lymis  on  05/29  at  07:28 PM

And yet when Obama talked about limiting CEO’s to a salary of $500,000—almost twice what Sotomayor makes—we were told that you can barely scrape by in New York City on a salary that tiny and it was basically condemning them to a life of poverty.

So which is it, fellas?  Why is $200,000 a princely salary that lets you live high on the hog but $500,000 is poverty-level?  You do realize we can count, right?

Comment #6: Mnemosyne  on  05/29  at  07:29 PM

I dunno, Amanda.  You may be accrediting to deliberate planning what can adequately explained by inchoate tantrums.

Comment #7: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  05/29  at  07:30 PM

(Psst: Commensurate, not commiserate.)

In regard to this: “She once took issue with a prospective employer who singled her out as a Latina with questions she viewed as offensive yet has shown a keen ethnic consciousness herself.”—Well, there is the fact that it is illegal to ask job applicants questions about their ethnicity, and one would expect a graduate of law school to be cognizant of that antidiscrimination law.

Comment #8: Orange  on  05/29  at  07:40 PM

Here’s my Sotomayor contribution for the day:  back in 1997 when Bill Clinton first nominated her to be an appellate court judge, the Republicans blocked her for a full year because—as they freely admitted—they thought the appointment would set her up for a Supreme Court slot.

G.O.P., Its Eyes On High Court, Blocks a Judge

After Delay, Senate Approves Judge for Court in New York

That’s right, they’ve had ten years to dig up some dirt about her and find something that will disqualify her, and what do they have?  A partial quote that’s such weak tea that even Rod Dreher doesn’t buy it.  And that’s it.

And, yes, I’m astounded that a purported adult working for the Associated Press could hear a story about Sotomayor being insulted to her face and think the problem in the story is Sotomayor’s reaction to being presumed stupid and incompetent.  Why is she so upset to have stereotypes used against her if she’s so proud of being Puerto Rican, huh?  Huh?

Comment #9: Mnemosyne  on  05/29  at  07:48 PM

I’m beginning to think that these people really *do* just think that Latinas must be stupid by definition. I can’t see any other explanation for the rampant racism, the “affirmative action” charges and the constant cries of “unqualified.” It’s fucking crazy.

It just shows in stark relief how much racism and sexism still exist, how the rules are different for women and minorities, and how no matter what woman and minorities do, there are going to be people who refuse to see them as a success.

The woman graduates from top schools with top honors, and she has a long career as a prosecutor and private attorney and then spends years and years serving on the federal bench. What other qualifications do people want? I mean, besides the light-skinned penis. Honestly, I don’t see how someone could be more qualified.

Comment #10: Phoebe Fay  on  05/29  at  07:48 PM

It’s all moot anyway. Robert Gibbs’ statement today was essentially a concession to the Limbrichney triumvirate—as far as I’m concerned the White House just threw her under the bus.

Obama can go fuck himself if he’s going to let his press people give up this easily.

Comment #11: BrianX  on  05/29  at  07:48 PM

“Hey, don’t be offended, but are you spics as lazy and stupid as everybody says?”

“I object to that question.”

“Hey, I thought you was proud of bein’ a spic.”

Did I miss anything?  So if I’m doing a job interview and I ask the woman if she’s married and she objects to the question that means she hates her husband and secretly dispises the institution of marriage.  And if someone objects during a job interview to me asking their religion, I may safely assume they’re a militant atheist.  Righ?

Boy, in 20 years of doing HR I wish I’d known this stuff before.

Comment #12: Magis  on  05/29  at  07:48 PM

No guys. Guys. Guys.

On ethnicity, Sotomayor herself has recognized — and contributed to — the dichotomy. She proudly highlights her Puerto Rican roots but hasn’t always liked it when others have. She once took issue with a prospective employer who singled her out as a Latina with questions she viewed as offensive yet has shown a keen ethnic consciousness herself.

She is proud of her Latina heritage but also does not like racist remarks about her Latina heritage which she is proud of!!!!!

How can this savage hypocrisy stand?!

Comment #13: Dan  on  05/29  at  07:52 PM

Wow.  My mom grew up in the south Bronx in what was then an Irish ghetto.  She’s pretty damned into being Irish and seldom lets anyone forget it.  Yet, strangely, she doesn’t really like it when people assume she’s an alcoholic.  Especially because, you know, it isn’t true.

Comment #14: jTuba  on  05/29  at  07:54 PM

Perhaps people born into upper echelons of society don’t get this, but the big mass of little people—-working class, working poor, lower middle class, even middle class—-tend to see the fortunes rise and fall over a lifetime, sometimes making enough to move from one category to another.  This doesn’t negate their pasts or their futures.

This is the sin of social mobility, a dread scourge that Republicans have spent the last 30 years trying to wipe out. Poor people are supposed to always be poor, dying of malnutrition (and maybe a STD) in the same windowless garret they and their eleven brothers and sisters were born in. Working hard to provide a better home for your children is all well and good, if it means moving from the plush suburb into a mansion (and you’re white) but is damn fishy if you or your parents get caught being upwardly mobile while brown.

Comment #15: Keith  on  05/29  at  08:04 PM

Thiemer’s non sequitur leaps are ...  breathtaking.

Comment #16: Ranylt  on  05/29  at  08:12 PM

Hold on thar, I thought this kind of up-from-the-projects story of self-betterment through hard work was the kind of thing conservatives loved to hear, because it shows that there’s no more discrimination in America. Now it’s a sign that someone has cheated and only achieved success by taking advantage of ethnic and gender profiling (like a certain recent white president who went to a male-only college)?

Comment #17: paul  on  05/29  at  08:36 PM

paul:

It’s called doublethink.

Comment #18: BrianX  on  05/29  at  08:38 PM

So which is it, fellas?  Why is $200,000 a princely salary that lets you live high on the hog but $500,000 is poverty-level?

Why, that’s easy! First question: are you a white male?

Comment #19: Jeff Fecke  on  05/29  at  08:43 PM

What, exactly, is “Newyorkrican”? The term is Nuyorican, it’s been in use since at least the 70s. Would it have killed someone at AP to oh, I don’t know, do some research? Seeing as they profess to be a news agency of some sort.

Comment #20: elena  on  05/29  at  09:11 PM

“I thought this kind of up-from-the-projects story of self-betterment through hard work was the kind of thing conservatives loved to hear, because it shows that there’s no more discrimination in America.”

The Overclass loves a good Comrade Ogilvy-type story of achieving against all odds, because it helps keep the proles (some of them, at least) voting against their economic interests.

But when a Bill Clinton, or a Barack Obama, or a Sonia Sotomayor actually manages to pull it off, and knows just how incredibly difficult it really is, and gets into a position of power where they might do something to make it easier…well This Must Not Stand…

Comment #21: MikeEss  on  05/29  at  09:21 PM

The premise is that Sotomayor is two-faced, because she claims to have lived in a housing project as a child, but now she actually accepts a salary for her work as if she was a judge on the federal appeals court or something.

Only the ignorant would buy your repackaging of the premise. Before she was in government, she hob-nobbed with the very wealthy working for their interests, becoming one of them before becoming a judge on the federal appeals court. It’s the part you seem to have forgotten to mention. I guess you think no one reads the articles and just takes your twisted views.

Has it ever occurred to you why Ezra has moved into a real journalism job and you’re still here? You had your chance with the Edwards campaign, but they, too, saw what we all see. And you’re still here.

Comment #22: Boyz in the White House  on  05/29  at  09:34 PM

BitW—you are officially the dumbest troll in the universe. How does what you just wrote change Amanda’s point? Oh, yeah, right—it doesn’t; she was poor as a child, she worked her way up and became successful, and now she has the temerity not to live in public housing—the ingrate!

Or as Amanda already said:

Perhaps people born into upper echelons of society don’t get this, but the big mass of little people—-working class, working poor, lower middle class, even middle class—-tend to see the fortunes rise and fall over a lifetime, sometimes making enough to move from one category to another.  This doesn’t negate their pasts or their futures.

Comment #23: Jeff Fecke  on  05/29  at  09:51 PM

Boyz, I guess you’ve decided that unleashing the full power of your dickishness is your best move.  Wrong again, asshole…

Comment #24: MikeEss  on  05/29  at  09:55 PM

Before she was in government, she hob-nobbed with the very wealthy working for their interests, becoming one of them before becoming a judge on the federal appeals court.

So when did this hob-nobbing begin?  Did a different family take her home from the hospital?  Maybe it was kindergarten and they sat her next to Paris Hilton, thus beginning Sotomayor’s rise to Supreme Court nominee. 

Or maybe it was when she became valedictorian at Cardinal Spellman High School, one of the top high schools in New York.  Yeah, that must have been it, because there’s no way a Latina from the projects could actually earn good grades and become valedictorian of her class.  She must have had some “help” from her rich friends to pass all those classes, amirite?

Comment #25: Mnemosyne  on  05/29  at  09:58 PM

“She must have had some “help” from her rich friends to pass all those classes, amirite?”

That’s just good old-fashioned projection.  He’s describing Bush Jr., Abu Gonzales, and a whole host of other Reichwing hacks…

Comment #26: MikeEss  on  05/29  at  10:02 PM

Mark at 5:56, the articles wouldn’t have passed in high school writing class either.

Comment #27: NancyP  on  05/29  at  10:07 PM

elena, “NewYorkican” seems to be Sotomayor’s own phrase, it shows up in the published version of the 2001 speech from La Raza law journal.  I had never heard it either, but you really can’t fault the AP for using it.

That aside, Sharon Theimer seems to be on a roll.  Just a couple of weeks ago she started a piece with…

President Barack Obama’s personal finances appear to be on sound footing even as the U.S. economy struggles, a financial report he released Friday shows.

Comment #28: WoofWoof  on  05/29  at  10:14 PM

I’d say poor white men have less opportunities than rich white men, but I don’t see that ever brought up as a topic of conversation. It’s always women and non-white folk getting all of the deals. Ending the legacy system at the Ivy Leagues would be good for everyone.

Comment #29: Seebach  on  05/29  at  10:14 PM

That’s true. No one ever talks about class. Ever. It’s a complete non-issue! Please ignore the Marxists crying in the corner.

Comment #30: Mandolin  on  05/29  at  10:18 PM

She must have had some “help” from her rich friends to pass all those classes, amirite?

The funny thing is the when it does happen, it’s the rich friend who gets “help” from the Latina classmate.

Comment #31: Tyro  on  05/29  at  10:25 PM

I would looove to know the name of the partner who made those atrocious comments at the yale dinner.  Then I would further loooove to publicize his name to general counsel, and watch his book of business shrink.  What a jerk.  Some law firms tolerate shit that publicly traded companies never would.

Comment #32: Ismone  on  05/29  at  10:40 PM

Boyz, restating the original article’s arguments with different terms is not a counter-argument to Amanda’s thesis.

Comment #33: gwangung  on  05/29  at  10:51 PM

I would like to suggest a new guideline.

Henceforth, when we cannot tell whether the author is stupid or lying, the most likely answer is both.

Comment #34: ice weasel  on  05/29  at  11:05 PM

BrianX:

Robert Gibbs’ statement today was essentially a concession to the Limbrichney triumvirate—as far as I’m concerned the White House just threw her under the bus.

Nah.

Here’s what Gibbs said: “I’ve not talked specifically with her about this, but I think she’d say that her word choice in 2001 was poor, that she was simply making the point that personal experiences are relevant to the process of judging, that your personal experiences have a tendency to make you more aware of certain facts in certain cases, that your experiences impact your understanding. I think we all agree with that.”

Sotomayor isn’t going to stand up before the judiciary committee and defend every word in that speech. There’s no reason for her to. She’ll do what Gibbs did—rephrase the meat of it in a slightly less explosive way, and apologize for being imprecise way back when.

Obama isn’t backing down off of this nomination, and there’s no reason at all to think that Sotomayor won’t be confirmed.

Comment #35: Angus Johnston  on  05/29  at  11:07 PM

The funny thing is the when it does happen, it’s the rich friend who gets “help” from the Latina classmate.

I remember the Paige Laurie ridiculousness.  Her filthy rich daddy (who was then owner of the St. Louis Blues), and her filthy rich mommy (of the Walton clan) paid the University of Missouri $30 Million to name their new basketball arena “Paige Arena” - despite her never having attended Mizzou.  And then the whole mess about her cheating her way to her USC degree came out, and they changed it to Mizzou Arena.  A friend of mine went to high school in Columbia, MO with Paige - said she was dumb as a bag of hammers, but loved cruising around in her Ferrari flaunting her Wal-Mart money.

Comment #36: DTG in STL  on  05/29  at  11:10 PM

What we gotta do is get all the names of the hacks who are writing these hit pieces, like Sharon Theimer, who wrote this one. Get all the names, & remember them. This is a group of up and coming bullshit artists, who will be used by the mainstream media any time they need a hit piece on someone. We need to start getting these names down, making a trail on them, to aid in responding the the next piece they do.

Comment #37: atheist  on  05/29  at  11:31 PM

I would looove to know the name of the partner who made those atrocious comments at the yale dinner.  Then I would further loooove to publicize his name to general counsel, and watch his book of business shrink.

Uh, chances are he’s retired if not dead of old age by now—that was roughly 30 years ago.

Comment #38: rea  on  05/29  at  11:42 PM

But at least you can get the name of the firm, which has merged it seems:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sotomayor-apology28-2009may28,0,2656066.story

Comment #39: phylosopher  on  05/29  at  11:58 PM

Do all these star reporters really not know a single person of Hispanic descent? Do they really just hang around with exclusively white people and whisper back and forth the amazing rumors they’ve heard about people of non-honkey origins?

“Oh, Sharon, have you heard? If you’re from Puerto Rico, you’re always dumb and poor!”

“How horrible, Biff! I hope I never meet one!”

Comment #40: Scott  on  05/30  at  12:16 AM

Also, did Nedra Pickler change her name? This article seems extremely similar to Nedra’s usual style.

Comment #41: Scott  on  05/30  at  12:18 AM

My really favorite part is how $200K is suddenly “wealthy” whereas a few short months ago, $250 was “middle class.”

Comment #42: anon  on  05/30  at  12:35 AM

Angus Johnston:

I wish I could share your confidence. There are far too many stupid people in Democratic leadership positions, and too many conservatives willing to resort to bullying to get their way. Bush continues to rule from beyond the grave, and IMHO we’re all screwed.

Comment #43: BrianX  on  05/30  at  12:47 AM

My really favorite part is how $200K is suddenly “wealthy” whereas a few short months ago, $250 was “middle class.”

A few short months ago $250K was “just barely able to stay off the streets”.

Comment #44: KeithM  on  05/30  at  12:48 AM

You know, what bothers me in this sort of thing is just a lack of basic politeness. Certain people seem to think that when the subject is a person of color all home training goes out the window. Really…of course Sotomayor is going to be offended if you imply people of her heritage are stupid… Anyone who thought about that for a few seconds would be like ‘Oh, people of that heritage probably have relatives and friends of that heritage…people they would very much like to not be insulted’. Duuuh. Prejudice overrides all sorts of things I guess.

Comment #45: shannon  on  05/30  at  01:23 AM

I’m not sure I have the patience for many many weeks of this.
The Washington Post has now published an utterly perspective-less “story” comparing Sotomayor and Thomas as similar examples of a president strategically choosing a “pioneering minority”.  It mentions Anita Hill (though not by name), along with the fact that Thomas managed to get confirmed anyway.  It also mentions the “intense criticism from some conservatives” over the “wise Latina” comments, as if these things were somehow remotely parallel to each other.  Arrggg.

Comment #46: smr71  on  05/30  at  02:30 AM

I’m not sure I have the patience for many many weeks of this.

Weeks?

I wish.

The reality is, Sotomayor is not likely to be confirmed before August, at the earliest.  We’re looking at a couple months here… not weeks.

Comment #47: DTG in STL  on  05/30  at  04:49 AM

“It’s all moot anyway. Robert Gibbs’ statement today was essentially a concession to the Limbrichney triumvirate—as far as I’m concerned the White House just threw her under the bus.
Obama can go fuck himself if he’s going to let his press people give up this easily.”


Robert Gibbs is a weiner. He reminds me of the “PC Guy” in those “Mac vs PC” ads ...

Comment #48: EricJG  on  05/30  at  04:54 AM

Yep, she both believes herself to have Puerto Rican heritage, but doesn’t believe that this makes her too stupid to get into Princeton.

I read it more as “she’s proud of her Puerto Rican heritage, but doesn’t accept being discriminated against on that basis.” That conservatives see that as a paradox seems slightly less crazy when you remember that to them, pride in your heritage means wanting special treatment due to your heritage.

Comment #49: Hershele Ostropoler  on  05/30  at  10:15 AM

Mnemosyne

So which is it, fellas?  Why is $200,000 a princely salary that lets you live high on the hog but $500,000 is poverty-level?  You do realize we can count, right?

$200K is a lot if you can’t imagine anything grander than the projects. $500K is paltry for living a proper white-person life.

Eric, assuming you’re in the U.S., that’s a terrible thing to say about John Hodgman.

Comment #50: Hershele Ostropoler  on  05/30  at  10:42 AM

”$200K is a lot if you can’t imagine anything grander than the projects. $500K is paltry for living a proper white-person life.”

I like to think I’m living a proper white person life, and I’ll never make close to $200K/year without selling my soul — plus the souls of several other people…

Wyte Privleg? Im duin it rong…

Comment #51: MikeEss  on  05/30  at  10:51 AM

Shorter Boys: You are only permitted to network if you’re a white male. Also, stupid, ignorant, vicious swipe to show that I can spend years relishing it when a woman gets knocked down for thinking she deserves anything but being tied to the stove.

Comment #52: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/30  at  12:16 PM

Boys’ incoherent comment does remind me, though—-Nedra Pickler’s vicious, irresponsible hit piece against Melissa and me wasn’t even her own writing, really.  A few minutes before she put it on the wire, she sent the Catholic League’s press release to us, so she could pretend to ask us for comment.  And basically, “her” article was the press release with a few minor rewrites.  Makes me wonder if Thiemer did the same thing—-ran a right wing org’s press release with a few minor rewrites.

Comment #53: Amanda Marcotte  on  05/30  at  12:29 PM

This article further reminds me why empathy is so lacking in politics and the media anymore, and it amazes me that it’s considered a negative trait for someone to have. That really says all you need to know about the conservative mindset. The way Sotomayor is being treated is disgusting, and yet critics dare to say that SHE is the racist one. I think a lack of empathy, not being able to understand a Latina judge’s connection to her racial background, is one of the biggest problems surrounding their view of her.

Lack of empathy is another reason they can’t understand the comments she made. As someone with her background, I think she would have a different perspective about discrimination and obstacles than white men who have privilege on their side. No one actually stops to consider that she may be right.

Comment #54: ArtOfMe  on  05/30  at  01:12 PM

of course Sotomayor is going to be offended if you imply people of her heritage are stupid

Only he didn’t imply that Puerto Ricans or Latinas were stupid.  He implied she was stupid and had only gotten into Princeton and Yale because of affirmative action, and didn’t she agree that law firms should bother hiring people like her, since they’d just have to fire her for her stupidity in a few months anyway.

For being offended that her hard work and smarts were worthless, since as a Puerto Rican they can’t be real, she’s a racist.

The stupid?  Burns hard here.

And let her in, and she’ll sidle to the back door and prop it open for other undeserving people to sneak in.

See, I think it’s this projection that has them blustering anything without really worrying about if it makes sense.  They only want to hire their fellow white men.  If minorities and women are ever represented in sufficient numbers, they’ll do the same thing and only hire people of their color and gender, regardless of qualification.

White men really will be discriminated against and will never be employable again!

Or—even worse—they’ll have to work and earn their positions by being qualified, as opposed to simply possessing a pale penis and a wealthy daddy (who also has a functional pale penis).

Comment #55: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  05/30  at  01:36 PM

The stupid burns doubly hard because Sotomayor is more deserving than anybody that is currently on the courts, if years in a federal robe count more than ideological academic lawyering.

Comment #56: Ms Kate  on  05/30  at  04:22 PM

Sotomayor isn’t going to stand up before the judiciary committee and defend every word in that speech.

Or maybe she should IF and ONLY IF Scalia is forced to recant his various vulgarities WHILE WORKING.

Comment #57: Ms Kate  on  05/30  at  04:29 PM

No one actually stops to consider that she may be right.
ArtOfMe on 05/30 at 08:12 AM

As for me, you’re right. I don’t stop and consider it. My own life experience and empathy with the lives of others convinces me that of course she’s right.

If only Obama would say that, and make people understand it. (No matter what he says, I believe he must understand it—which means that the more he “apologizes” for her “error” rather than explain that that’s exactly the sort of quality we need in a Supreme Court Justice, particularly on a Court like the one we’ve got, the worse his failure of leadership is.

Comment #58: Mark Foxwell  on  05/30  at  05:31 PM

Just throwing this out for consideration:

I’d like to see the video of the speech if there is one.  Reading it in context, knowing it was to a Latino law school group, etc. It seems more like a line to get a light laugh than a statement of any kind of conviction. I keep hearing said sort of tongue in cheek.

Comment #59: phylosopher  on  05/30  at  09:32 PM

I think you are on to something with that phylosopher ... sort of like an “in joke” about Jewish mothers or any given fraternity inside joke crap ala skull and bones.

Comment #60: Ms Kate  on  05/30  at  09:52 PM

A fucking unicorn would have a better shot at the Supreme Court.

As long as it was a white unicorn.

Comment #61: FearItself  on  05/31  at  01:14 PM

I’m British and I had no idea she was Latina until people started saying it. I thought, based on her appearance, that she was Asian-American! Just goes to show that these categories with all their stereotypes are really just baggage and we’d do better to get rid of them. Unfortunately, that will be hard with people like Limbaugh around…

Comment #62: TeaAndCrumpets  on  05/31  at  11:49 PM
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