Quote: “Planned Parenthood is invested in promiscuity.”

Would this be in the same sense that “School teachers are invested in ignorance” or “The Teabaggers are invested in ignorance”?

While I have zero doubt that King would describe my 33-year-old unmarried-but-not-a-virgin ass as “promiscuous”,

There’s an official WHO definition for this - ran across it while archiving.  “Promiscuous” = “Having more than two sexual partners in a 12 month period”.

With soundbites like these it has to become increasingly obvious to the public that these people simply don’t like people having a good time.

Methinks InAnnity is enjoying that scenario just a teensy bit too much.

Meanwhile, the implication behind King’s dumbassery is that PP *needs* people to be promiscuous, and that we might not be such a damn pack of libertines if only PP weren’t there to pollute our brains.

Meanwhile, the implication behind King’s dumbassery is that PP *needs* people to be promiscuous, and that we might not be such a damn pack of libertines if only PP weren’t there to pollute our brains.

Ah.  So the teabagger and ignorance comparison applies then.

Interesting to see Hannity be so completely upfront about his belief that children are a punishment women should be forced to suffer.  Usually, rethugs are less overt in that way . .. right?

If I wanted to trade or invest in promiscuity, would it require passing the Series 69?

Juan Williams going to Fox is a big positive, moving him off NPR is a positive, and he clearly puts up more of a fight than any liberal I have seen on Fox.  I wonder how long he’ll last, or if he will have to take submissiveness lessons from Colmes to stay on.

it is a horrible time to be an unmarried, vagina-having public employee.

Rare Vos—even better, remember during the ‘08 election, when Obama was explaining that if one of his daughters were to make a mistake, he wouldn’t want her “punished” with a baby? Hannity nearly blew a gasket because Obama was describing babies as punishment instead of blessed miracles of joy that any 13-year-old should be proud to throw her life away for. Except in Hannity’s own book (easily googlable), he describes how people who have sex should bear the consequences of those actions.

You can see how this is going to work, can’t you?

First Planned Parenthood invests in promiscuity.

Then they start selling futures in pussy.  So many orgasms to be delivered by such-and-such a date, so many blowjobs two years in advance.

The pitch is that these serve as a brokerage opportunity between lonely buyers and promiscuous sellers.  A minor scandal arises when it turns out condom manufacturers are gaming the market, but Congress passes a resolution which “fixes” the problem at the cost of making Durex even richer.

But then Goldman bloody Sachs gets involved, selling naked swaps betting on whether the orgasms get delivered or not.  Orgasm debt obligations are thought up, entitling the first tranche buyers to a guaranteed orgasm, with third tier tranche buyers taking risks that they’ll have to settle for a box of kleenex and the Victoria’s Secret catalogue.

People start speculating in sex futures.  Ironically, they’re working so hard on this that they don’t have time to fool around.  Pension funds sink their savings into indexed ejaculate volumes.

Finally it all collapses after some New York slut on whom the entire market was depending says “actually, I can’t be bothered tonight”.  There is a total financial meltdown, and the real economy starts suffering the fallout of speculation in screwing.  This eventually gets labelled “the Wet Spot Depression”.

And then a Republican government decides to step in by subsidising viagra and hookers for Wall Street traders…

It’s funny that Hannity will say there’s exceptions when pressed on air, when in reality he wouldn’t give two shits what happened to women in those situations.  He’d let them ‘face the consequences’ of their actions (actions include: being a victim, falling into poor health).

And let’s say someone *did* make a bad choice.  So what?  Everyone makes mistakes, and they learn from them.  Are you telling me you wouldn’t treat someone who’s just had their hand chopped off in wood shop?  Nope, sorry bud, I’m afraid you’ll just have to bleed out and suffer the consequences.

To be clear, I don’t think casual sex is a ‘mistake’, the mistake would be not using proper contraception which our lovely right-wingers want to get rid of.  And if you do use contraception and you still get pregnant when you aren’t ready, that’s called bad luck.  There’s no 100% certainty it will work.  I feel like this is all common sense, but it’s made out to be more complicated than it is -.-

I was hoping King would get in a lather and start screaming “Death to Sluts!”

Planned Parenthood saves lives. So to him promiscuity=women who have unapproved sex, women who have unapproved sex=sluts, sluts=people who deserve shame and death.
Therefore women who have unapproved sex deserve shame and death.

Wow, for a brief, shining moment some years ago, I actually qualified as promiscious.  *buffs nails modestly*

What I enjoyed was the realization that Hannity thinks people stop fucking when they get old enough to have apartments of their own, and don’t have to make out in the back seats of cars.  Is this a widespread assumption on the right?

Well of course.  According to their mythology, all abortions are sought by these backseat dwelling harlots, young women too poor and dumb to afford their own place.  Anyone else who has sex is a good, chaste, married women (who saved it until marriage, of course).  And we all know that older or married women never seek out abortions.  Right?

Right, because providing reproductive health care to those who fall through the cracks of the US health insurance racket due to poverty, underemployment, and bad luck is soooooooo profitable.  I’m sure the soup kitchen are equally “invested” in homelessness as orphanages are in abandoned children.  I’m sure that the people who choose to work in these lucrative professions would actually be thrilled if their institutions and safety nets were not necessary, but sadly, we live in the real world, not the one with the rose-color glasses where people just never ever act like…well, like human beings.

Those senators (and why are they always older white guys? {rhetorical question}) decrying PP for providing reproductive services that prevent abortions in the long run are the same ones who would pitch a fit and fall in it if they lost THEIR health care or if their insurance company didn’t pay for their Viagra.  Bottom line from an old dog that still hunts: men are entitled to sex and power over others’ lives, but women shouldn’t even be allowed control their own lives yet must be made to “pay” in all ways for having sex.  Sad and selfish.

I am always amused at what social conservatives seem to think life is like for the rest of us.  I think they would actually find the sex lives of most PP patients to be utterly boring.  They’d be so disappointed to hear how many are just taking those contraceptives home to have regular old vanilla sex with their husbands and long term boyfriends.

shakahi, you are mostly right, but I think to them that sluts=THINGS that deserve death. Sluts aren’t people with rights and hopes and dreams: men and zygotes are.

They’ve become so convinced they speak for the “Real American” silent majority, they’re forgetting that the message is supposed to be coded.

Check out the billboard model they picked for their “most dangerous place for an African American is in the womb” anti-abortion campaign: it’s a late-elementary school girl in a light top with a wary, kind of stunned look on her face.  (I’m not sure your site will let me put images in comments but I’m going to give it a try—it’s from a Feb. 28th Sociological Images post.)

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2011/02/122.jpg

Anyway, you’re exactly right, Amanda.  Adult women pretty much don’t have sex in cars.  For one thing, last I checked you pretty much can’t have sex in a car.  Unless it’s sex in a mini-van (not that uncommon but not what Hannity is imagining) or sex in back of the kind of large “pimp-mobile” American sedans I suspect he is imagining.

That’s what Hannity thinks abortion is all about: teen pregnancy.  At the hands, no doubt, of “big black studs” driving around in welfare Cadillacs.  Which he sees Planned Parenthood as giving a free ride to.  This pimp/teen-whore stereotype is a total fixation for ‘wingers.  It’s no coincidence that Lila Rose got actors to pretend to be pimps for her failed video sting of Planned Parenthood.  Same, of course, with James O’Keefe’s more successful Acorn videos.

I’d just add that they almost have to demonize mythical very young African American girls and their much older partners because the alternative is confronting the majority of women who actually do get abortions.  Because the reaction when a lower-middle-class working or college-bound woman in her late teens or early 20s gets an abortion, or a married woman who doesn’t want any more kids gets an abortion, the reaction is a lot less, um, viscerally satisfying.

Ugly, racist motherfuckers.

figleaf

#9 ponttail,
Specifically the female should bear the consequences- even if it was him that misused the condom and acknowledging that no domestic abuse or BC sabotage ever happens.

There’s an official WHO definition for this - ran across it while archiving.  “Promiscuous” = “Having more than two sexual partners in a 12 month period”.

Huh. So the WHO thinks that after I ended my five-year period of sexual monogamy, no sex for me for a year without being “promiscuous”. Does stuff like… reset 365 days after your last sexual encounter? Or is this more of a “you had sex with multiple people without having the yearly plumbing exam in between to make sure you’re clean”?

I realize any definition is going to be arbitrary, but it would be interesting to know what went into it.

What gets me about this is that this is AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE, and we’re being told by republicans to not have sex?

Except in Hannity’s own book (easily googlable), he describes how people who have sex should bear the consequences of those actions.

Leaving aside the fact that for most people, most of the time the intended consequence of sex is to have a pleasurable experience, does he even bother to provide an argument for why a group of patients should be singled out and denied treatment for the consequences of their actions?

Think of all the equity I have! Now, how do I cash it out?

Go to the sperm bank

“What gets me about this is that this is AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE, and we’re being told by republicans to not have sex?”

...no, this is America, the Land of the Free (free from taxes - for the rich, free from regulation - for the exploiters, free from social responsibilities - for Our Galtian Overlords, free from accountability - for anyone in the Bush Jr./Darth Cheney Administration, free from progress - for all us proles, and soon free from unions - for the Kochs and their friends).  You gotta read the fine print…

(Freedom not available in Alaska, or south of the Mason-Dixon Line.  Freedom is shown with optional features added.  The freedoms discussed are for comparison purposes only.  Your actual freedom may vary.  Does not constitute a guarantee of freedom.  See your dealer for details.  Actual cash value 1/1000 of $0.01…)

Sigh, who let Corwin out of the basement again?

Right wingers are so creepy when they talk about sex. “Grab, grope and fondle”? Ew.  Not to mention that quote is the same mentality people use to justify date rape.

If you’re going to be talking about investment in promiscuity, all you have to do is look at the porn consumption in red vs blue states. In which case King’s complaint makes perfect sense: PP is cutting into the profits of porn producers and pimps. He has too look after the interests of his ideological, um, bedfellows.

Huh. So the WHO thinks that after I ended my five-year period of sexual monogamy, no sex for me for a year without being “promiscuous”.

Hobbes, let me introduce you to the difference between “two” and “more than two”.  It’s not that difficult; educated mice can do it.

If you’re sexually monogamous, you split with a partner, and then you’re in bed with someone else a month later, you’re not promiscuous by WHO standards.  If you’re in bed with another someone else within the next eleven months, then you’re an Official Slut (for STD tracking purposes).

Hannity bloviates “I’m pro-choice in this sense, Juan.  If you choose to get in the back of the car with someone, if you choose to make out with them, if you choose to grab, grope and fondle, if you choose to take one article of clothing off after another, guess what? You made a series of choices, Juan.”

Given what a tremendous responsibility being a parent is (and I know whereof I speak, being the father of two children), why do Hannity and his ilk want to saddle young people who engaged in irresponsible conduct to become parents before they have had the chance to get their education, find a decent paying job and obtain some wisdom from their life experiences?

And then there’s troglodyte Congressman Steven King, “Planned Parenthood is invested in promiscuity.”

Yeah, just like dentists are invested in people eating sugary foods.  That’s why everytime I have my dental checkup, my dentist tells me to keep eating candy bars and to stop flossing my teeth on a daily basis.  What a dumbass.

#21 figleaf

“Check out the billboard model they picked for their “most dangerous place for an African American is in the womb” anti-abortion campaign: it’s a late-elementary school girl…”

Just a quick correction: The girl on that billboard is only 6 years old. Her name is Anissa Fraser and her mom isn’t happy that her daughter’s photo was used in this campaign.

Hot damn, not only do I get to make fun of Steve King, I get his dumbassery mansplained to me.  My night. It’s made.

Remember, folks, report your promiscuity dividends on Schedule B, along with any sexual interest that was paid out to you in the year 2010.

Phoenician in a time of Romans @ 33 - oops, that’s what I get for reading blogs in class. Thinking about biochemical pathways instead of 2 vs >2.

My car, being a ragtop, doesn’t have back seats. Does that mean I still get affordable healthcare if I ever come back to the States, since I don’t seem to qualify for King’s definition of “punishable slut”?

Oh silly me, all poor non-men deserve to be punished for Eve’s sin, or something, and it has a soft roof so its entirely possible to fuck on it.

Derp. Hannity’s definition, not King’s. Though King is still stupid.

Frank Guinta of NH has an ad on radio using the fucking Lily Rose clip as justification for his vote on PP funding.  I hope to hell this means someone is complant and outrage slamming his office in Manchester.  If he thinks the ad he used will do anything but piss off anyone who knows anything about planned parenthood or the clip he used, he is as stupid as the rest of his cohorts.

There’s an official WHO definition for this - ran across it while archiving.  “Promiscuous” = “Having more than two sexual partners in a 12 month period”.

Well, hell, I was seriously promiscuous for about 5 years in my 20’s then.  Being married and monogamous now, I’m not sure whether I qualify for Republican opprobrium or approval vis a vis my life choices.

If I understand the rhetoric correctly, when I was young, having fun, and entirely incapable of taking care of a child, then I should have been denied access to contraception?  I do seriously wonder what fucking planet these people are on sometimes - Opposite World?

Why didn’t Juan Williams point out that with the Hyde amendment, not one single penny of federal money goes to abortion services ANYWAY, and that the amount of money the Republicans are looking to save with cutting off abortions to Medicare recipients is MINISCULE?  Why do we have to get into these voyeuristic hypotheticals about some pre-teen fucking in a car EVERY FUCKING TIME?  That’s a strawwoman, and we need to quit talking about it.

We are in a fucking job CRISIS and this is the most important thing on the agenda?  This is the Republican plan to create jobs and stimulate the economy?  How does telling private companies what they can and can’t do with their money stimulate anything?

PiaToR @ 11: That was really good.
shakahi @ 13: I agree that that would be exactly King’s logic chain.
MikeEss @ 29: also really good.
I missed another Corwin mess of illogic?  Damn.  Or not.

Might Ponygirl - it’s only punishment for women though, right?  I mean, he’s not all about stiffer penalties for deadbeat dads or anything.  Don’t want to get all crazy and actually care about anyone actually born.

Rare Vos:

I’m sure he’d be fine with tracking down abusive biological fathers and making women stay with them.

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“Forcing poor people to have kids isn’t exactly gonna save the taxpayers money on the cost of social programs.”

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GumbyAnne - that’s why they are gutting social programs too!  And all of them - Head Start, WIC, etc etc.  They want women breeding, but also powerless to do anything but spend all their time on children. Can’t fight for your rights when you have no spare resources.

Maybe this is the realization of the rethuglican wet dream - remove rights, gut support programs can effectively legislate women back into early marriages and life long forced breeding.  Cuz, if you don’t, you and you’re kids will starve.

GumbyAnne, they plan on destroying those social programs. Poor people who have children they can’t afford won’t compete with rich people’s children for good jobs. That’s the only thing it’s about.

Well, it’s their fault they’re poor because they had sex.  If they’d just keep their pants on, then they could focus on things like serving food to rich people to earn a paycheck instead of taking care of helpless infants.  Sex isn’t supposed to be cheap, it’s supposed to be paid for with two decades of indentured servitude and loss of independence to a man who will take care of you.  And if he doesn’t, well you’re just not a good enough woman and deserve whatever crap he gives you.  The only way to buy your way out of this is to give up your child to a deserving (white) Christian couple.

If they were just Good Christian Women who used sex and children as a way to secure a good man with a good paycheck, then things would be all hunky dory, the divorce rate would plummet, everyone would be able to go to college and they wouldn’t have to take low wage jobs like waiters, janitors…crap, then rich people would have to wash their own floors!  Nevermind…

Why didn’t Juan scream from the top of his lungs that federal money does not go to pay for abortions except for the benevolent exceptions Sean listed? Why is reading comprehension (the Hyde amendment) such a problem for these republicans?

The thing is, I’m pretty promiscuous.  I’ve had sex with plenty of different men and without want a commitment.  And yet, I’ve never had an abortion.  But there are plenty of women who have had abortions even though they are monogamously married.  Because sometimes married couples have sex, and sometimes they don’t want (more) children right now.  So PP has benefited more from some non-promiscuous women than they have from this particular promiscuous woman.  I really hate this trope that conservatives push that marriage is a magic pill that solves all problems.  If a 16 year-old girl gets pregnant and marries her 16 year-old boyfriend, they still won’t have the jobs and education to support that child.  And once a couple is already married, there is still a limit to the number of children they can afford to care for.  Even if everyone was perfectly monogamous, there would still be a need for abortion.  Sometimes condoms break or vasectomies fail.  Even though promiscuity is not a bad thing, it still isn’t the cause of abortion or unwanted pregnancies.

Is there any point in loudly reminding the Planned Parenthood bashers that, according to the Ten Commandments, God has an opinion about bearing false witness against one’s neighbors?  Now obviously this includes deliberately lying, but it seems to me it also includes making no attempt to get one’s facts right before making accusations.  As a lifelong atheist, maybe I just don’t understand something here?

The crazy thing here is the sheer numbers of unwed mothers in red states.

Ha!  You expect Juan Williams to have a spine or actually be a liberal?

He’s Ailes pet, put on to give Hannity/O’Reilly/etc. a limp, pathetic “argument” to defeat in a “debate”.

Facts are strictly verboten.

Right wingers are so creepy when they talk about sex. “Grab, grope and fondle”? Ew.  Not to mention that quote is the same mentality people use to justify date rape.
Comment 31—Veronica

I’m going to guess that’s not a coincidence.

My last three cars had fully reclining driver and passenger seats. While I haven’t tried this myself, I don’t see why fucking in cars should be all that uncomfortable, especially compared to a sleeping bag.
Comment 39—bad Jim

You’ve been celibate for three cars? What sort of lemons are you driving?

(It’s easy for me to say, I live in New York and don’t have a car)

If you choose to get in the back of the car with someone, if you choose to make out with them, if you choose to grab, grope and fondle, if you choose to take one article of clothing off after another, guess what? You made a series of choices, Juan.”

Friends don’t let friends fuck Republicans. Some simple steps to take before you get in the back of the car:

Check the presets in their car radio: anything lead to Fox or Rush?
Blatantly ask, “Hey, what about that Sarah Palin, huh?” and listen carefully to the answer.
Did they offer to administer “The World’s Smallest Political Quiz” to you? (Despite what they may say, most libertarians prize fetal rights over the woman’s.)
Ask, “Should moms stay home with their kids?” Then follow up with “But what if they’re on welfare?”

as best I understand it, Gordon, it is only the non-christians who have to follow the christian rules. christians, being already saved, are only required to force the rules they’re not following on everybody who is not a christian. whoever makes the most non-christians follow christian rules by force gets 72 virgins in heaven…or something like that.

or is that torture 72 sluts in hell? I can never remember.

or is that torture 72 sluts in hell? I can never remember.

It’s 72 bitches in hell.  The difference between a bitch and a slut is proverbial…

#57,
A majority of abortions happen in monogamous relationships and a majority of the time she already has 1 child and its due to contraceptive failure not failure to use contraception.