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Vote suppression volunteers out in full force

Update: A video from Media Matters showing right wing media promoting the myth of voter fraud.

An optimistic commenter named serious bette on my last post suggested that one under-reported aspect of the GOTV effort has been outreach to African-American communities.

The media reports on every single burp that limbaugh spews out into the airwaves and all but ignores urban radio stations which have spent countless hours since Labor Day working to get out the vote. I can’t count the number of times I have heard the president, first lady and any number of other democrats on urban radio getting out the vote. The goal being to get just as many African Americans to vote this year as we saw in 2008 and the effort is bearing fruit, particularly in places where early voting is allowed.

This is good news, and she’s right that it’s way under-reported.  But I want to say that while it’s absolutely true that the mainstream media isn’t reporting this story, the right wing media is all over it.  Granted, they do it in the most spintastic way possible, but they are all about making sure their racist listener base knows that racial minorities are voting, that there’s massive outreach to often underserved communities, and that this is likely to show up in the polling data.  And they’re determined to stop it.

When James O’Keefe and Andrew Breitbart promoted those fraudulent ACORN videos, I honestly doubt they thought they could bring an end to venerable organization.  I think the intention is the same as with Fox News pretending that the “New Black Panthers” are a widespread, dangerous organization.  All of this is aimed at getting the conservative base to believe one, very important myth: That black and Hispanic voters are out to get you, which means you’re justified in believing they don’t really have a right to vote.  It’s the Real American thing—-it’s about rationalizing the belief that black or Hispanic voters voting at all is fraudulent, because they aren’t what you the wingnut consider Real Americans.

Getting angry conservatives to grouse about people who they don’t consider Real Americans isn’t hard to do, but this election, it’s been way over the top. Roy collected a number of examples of right wing bloggers bringing in cases of “fraud” they’ve seen.  What’s interesting about each and every “fraud” is that nothing happened.  Except that someone the witness doesn’t want voting voted.  I’m not exaggerating.  The examples of “fraud” that Roy collects wingnuts complaining about are:

*A professor letting students out early to vote. 
*Union leaders giving union members rides to the polls, and waiting around for their fellows while they’re voting.  This was interpreted by the paranoid witness as “forcing” them to vote.
*Disabled voters getting help from poll workers, who were probably not white enough in the eyes of the angry witness.

The common theme is a) all are incidents of completely legal voting and b) are assumed to be fraud, because the complainers don’t think those people should have the right to vote that they actually do.


One group in Houston called True The Vote has been getting a lot of positive attention in the right wing press.  Their purpose is to shore up the belief that any random black person you see voting is doing so illegally, and trying to get conservatives to interfere with black voters so they don’t vote. In case this doesn’t seem immediately obvious, their banner prominently features a picture of what they object to—-black people voting.

TTVHeader

Fox News gave them blow job coverage, with another helpful picture of the activity “concerned citizens” should be out there trying to fight.

All this is working.  True The Vote has been turning angry conservatives out in order to get them to fight with black and Hispanic voters in Houston.

In Texas, for example, on the first day of early voting, there were reports of poll watchers, some suspected with ties to a tea party group called “True the Vote,” appearing at minority polling sites in Houston. They reportedly interfered with voters — allegedly watching them vote, following them and engaging in confrontational conversations.

Voter fraud is largely a myth.  To matter at all, it would have to be conducted on a scale that would be impossible to pull off, since each discrete “fake” voter would have to get two registrations without the system flagging them.  It’s impossible.  Accusations of “fraud” are cover for people who wish to single out people who have a different skin color or ethnicity and challenge their right to vote.  Houston is ground zero for a lot of this, because it has turned blue in recent years strictly due to demographic changes.  While white people are still the majority in this country, they aren’t in Houston.  The diversification of Houston got a lot more attention in recent years because of the influx of new residents that permanently relocated there after Hurricane Katrina.  This didn’t really change the make-up of the city in any dramatic way, but it basically reinforced the angry conservative freakout over the demographic changes already in progress.  So now you have this situation—-a bunch of angry conservatives, mostly white and mostly from the suburbs I’ll bet, showing up and randomly harassing black and Hispanic voters.

They’re also armed by True The Vote with poor information. The website has a disingenuous list of issues they claim falsely are problems, but one of their claims is repeated over and over:

A photo ID and proof of citizenship should be required to register to vote.

Clearly, the idea is to get their volunteer harassers to show up at the polls and demand of every black and Hispanic person they see that they have a birth certificate and a photo ID in order to vote.  You need neither, but I imagine that the people who read this believe that they’re reading what is actually law.  True The Vote claims they have 1,000 people on hand to challenge people perceived to be frauds—-perceived no doubt by their skin color—-and if they have even half of that, they could do serious damage.  This is nothing to laugh off.  There’s been a lot of focus on suppressing Democratic vote for the state legislature this year, in order to redistrict yet again.  The last redistricting was successful to a degree, but was overrun in the Houston area by demographic changes, making seats the Republicans thought they had secured for themselves Democratic again.  I’m guessing they don’t want to make that mistake twice.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 03:26 PM • (47) Comments

Someday there will be actual voter fraud, but the computers that control things have proprietary software that cannot be examined so it will never be proven.  I was once on a jury that acquitted a DUI suspect who blew a .09 for this same proprietary software/secrecy nonsense, but apparently this kind of thing is okay as long as there isn’t anything important involved.

It’s still the aftervote you most need to look out for.

Comment #1: 3letterjon  on  11/01  at  03:59 PM

Meh, I’m less impressed by the sexy high tech accusations and way more worried about traditional voter suppression tactics, such as roll-purging, polling place intimidation, and other attempts to get women and racial minorities to stay at home.

Comment #2: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/01  at  04:12 PM

I stand corrected. In a good way. I cannot handle the enormous amounts of hate on wingnut sites and usually find out what they’re up to via bloggers such as yourself. Therefore I’m not always 100% up to speed on their latest shenanigans.

Let me just add that on urban radio they are also taking time every day to encourage listeners to vote early and to not go to the polls alone due to the massive amount of voter intimidation that is occurring/will occur tomorrow. Part of the fear lies in what will happen if a black person strikes back at a teabagging poll watcher. We all know that video of a black person cursing out/bitch slapping a wingnut will be played in an endless loop on faux news as the third sign of the apocalypse. (Roe v. Wade being #1, and President Obama being #2) Therefore, members of the black community are well aware of the fact that they cannot treat crazy, racist, teabagging “poll watchers” the way they might like to.

Urban radio stations also take the time to spell out the crazy tactics being employed like the one in Texas where voters were sent fliers stating that a straight Democratic ticket vote would actually be a vote for republicans. The stations advertise a phone number/website where people can get truthful information about voting and to report any fraudulent information that they are sent.
In 2008, I heard people say over and over “don’t fall for the okie doke”. That mantra is back.

I have no doubt that the haters are much more well funded and possibly better organized than the rational folks. I just have to hope that Wednesday morning does not bring about the bloodbath for Democrats that all of the DC loudmouths keep predicting.

Comment #3: serious bette  on  11/01  at  04:20 PM

In 2006, I was living in Nashville and several precincts in East Nashville (read: Black neighborhood precincts) had broken voting machines. Some elderly Black voters waited upwards of 6 hours in line to vote…that’s some systematic voter suppression. Meanwhile, over by Vanderbilt’s campus, I voted in less than 20 minutes.

Yes, there are thugs demanding Birth-Certificates (and their presence will only be worse tomorrow), but there is also the kind of neglect of precincts and inequitable distribution of resources by those already in power, eager to disenfrancise. Its disgusting and yet we only pay attention in early November…we need suffrage to be extended fairly in this country, principally through ease of access, extended voting hours and early voting. Heck, why isn’t election day a national holiday?

Comment #4: Thealogian  on  11/01  at  04:21 PM

A photo ID and proof of citizenship should be required to register to vote.

I’ll bet these numbnuts assume that you only have to show up at the polls in order to vote.  Since teabaggers have no concept of how the government works, of course they don’t conceive of voter registration, of how you have to register weeks in advance of election day so the government can verify who you are, whether you’re eligible to vote, and which district/polling place you belong in.

Comment #5: keshmeshi  on  11/01  at  04:23 PM

As the demographic trends continue to go against them, the Republicans will have to rely more and more on vote suppression. One might wonder when Democrats will finally grasp this and go on the warpath against this nonsense, but then one wonders about so many things with the Democrats.

Comment #6: Steve LaBonne  on  11/01  at  04:37 PM

So it’s safe to assume, once again, that when the Reichwing is accusing everyone else of doing something that pretty much means they’re doing it themselves and trying to hide it?

That has always been a safe assumption before…

“A photo ID and proof of citizenship should be required to register to vote.”

...will a Poll Tax be next?  Maybe proof you’re a landowner?  How about a genealogical profile going back several generations to prove you’re properly Aryan?...

Comment #7: MikeEss  on  11/01  at  04:38 PM

I am copy and pasting what i wrote from another thread. I know its rude, but this makes me absolutely livid. The Sec of State in SD is running on this theme:

I saw this ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYjeQabhm_w  on sioux falls tv today. It is for the guy running for sec of state in SD and features the candidate ranting about washington takeover of SD elections. In light of this controversy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephanie-woodard/south-dakota-election-sca_b_732278.html  where a large segment of the native american population of the state is likely to be disenfranchised. However, the vast majority of voters don’t know who he is, what sex of state does, and what the fuck this commercial is about, but it will have a huge impact on life in that state.

Comment #8: alysia  on  11/01  at  04:41 PM

I wasn’t really correcting you, serious, just adding a layer of complexity.  I imagine most voters who are being intimidated know immediately what this is about and will resist it. But my main fear is some will believe the lies about how much ID you need to vote.

Comment #9: Amanda Marcotte  on  11/01  at  04:47 PM

Watching the webcast of Friday’s Rachel Maddow show she talked about a case of “voter fraud” involving a “dead man” voting in Kansas, I think it was.  The local paper found said “dead man” raking leaves on his front lawn.

Comment #10: GeekGirlsRule  on  11/01  at  05:02 PM

What organizations exist such that we can volunteer to protect our local polling stations from this type of intimidation?

Comment #11: Punditus Maximus  on  11/01  at  05:05 PM

I’m surprised more stated don’t have mail voting, like Oregon does. Although I suppose wing nuts don’t want that as it would let the ‘wrong’ people vote way too easily.

voter fraud” involving a “dead man” voting in Kansas, I think it was.  The local paper found said “dead man” raking leaves on his front lawn.

Their letting zombies vote now!?! Them damn lib’rals! *shakes fist*

Comment #12: dahllaz  on  11/01  at  05:17 PM

Geeez, I kent spel wurth a dam.

Comment #13: dahllaz  on  11/01  at  05:21 PM

Yeah, the Kansas thing is a fine example of how far the Republicans will go to disenfranchise people.  A Republican candidate for something got all up in a huff about 2000 ‘dead’ folks being on the voting rolls (out of ~1.7M registered voters).  He used an example where a guy who had ‘died’ in 1996 had voted - the implication of course being that Democrats were fixing the election.  With their 2000 ‘dead’ voters out of 1.7M.  The winger in question somehow being sure that all the dead are voting for Dems, even in deep red Kansas.  Turns out that the ‘dead’ guy was very much alive.  He’s been registered for like 45 years or something, and back then Kansas law didn’t require a birth date on a registration.  So when all those records were updated, the really old ones had a default birth date of 1/1/1900 entered.  This was of course further proof that Democrats were fixing the vote - his registration record said he was 110 years old!  And dead for 14 of those years!  Except that the guy who passed away in 1996 was this guy’s father.

Just no regard for the truth or actual research or investigation.  Or facts.  Damned liberal facts.

When the paper went to check this claim of massive (0.1% even if true) vote fraud, they found the ‘dead’ guy raking his leaves.  Took them about >< that long to debunk the myth.

Comment #14: libdevil  on  11/01  at  05:48 PM

[MikeEss] “A photo ID and proof of citizenship should be required to register to vote.”
...will a Poll Tax be next?

Photo ID is election law in Montana, and there continues to be quite a bit of conversation regarding whether it amounts to disenfranchisement.  It’s the kind of thing that’s tough to stir up much opposition to, because the low-information reaction is generally “poor people who don’t have a photo ID are too lazy to get one.”  Kind of a surprise in a state that has been adamant about rejecting federal RealID legislation, but there you have it.

Comment #15: Cris  on  11/01  at  05:52 PM

This is all really weird.  I have never seen anything like that here; voter registration is a bureaucratic function kept up by a disinterested, um, bureaucracy, ramping up from time to time withj ads to ensure people get registered.  They have a distinctive brand and wide advertising in several media (the Little Orange Man) - when I told the Post Office I was moving house, they leaned on me to fill out an electoral registrar form, and a person doing their DB gave me a call a couple of days later.

I imagine if anyone spread disinformation like this,  they’d get stomped on in court.  I don’t think it’s much different in Europe.

It only appears to be America that entwines politics with what other countries see as a necessarily bureaucratic function.

Comment #16: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  11/01  at  05:52 PM

It’s called projection: while the Republicans are actively trying to suppress Democratic votes, they assume we’re also playing dirty.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/10/27/914111/-Republicans-always-lead-with-the-chin,-especially-on-voter-fraud

Comment #17: judybrowni  on  11/01  at  05:52 PM

I’m getting disheartened that Brazilian politics are catching the US politics’ nuttiness. For the first time we had abortion become a campaign issue (the female candidate from the party that wanted to decriminalize abortion promised to stay against it, after accusations of baby killing and satanism, and her staff accused the opposition candidate of being the real abortionist for approving the morning-after pill when he was Health Minister).
Now that the female candidate won, yesterday (first woman pres. ever!), there’s already a lot of talk about how she only won because of Northeast votes, because we Northeastern people are poor, dumb and illiterate (and unsaid: not white, shorter than national average, and have big heads) and our votes were bought by welfare hand-outs. There’s people wanting to just annul Northeastern votes, and newspapers are already publishing articles showing that she’d win even if Northeast were annuled. Which shocks me, as it shows the newspapers are entertaining the notion.

Comment #18: colorlessblue  on  11/01  at  05:53 PM

voter fraud” involving a “dead man” voting in Kansas, I think it was.  The local paper found said “dead man” raking leaves on his front lawn.

Reminds me of the stink King County, WA Republicans made about voter fraud. They had a list of 2000 so-called fradulent voters they researched. When outsiders did a spot check of these lists, about 30% of these “frauds” were actually valid voters the Republicans neglected to do actual reasearch on.

(About the other 70%? Yeah, bad records, but there are ALWAYS going to be invalid names…and since it was less than .001%......).

Comment #19: gwangung  on  11/01  at  05:58 PM

Hey, 3LetterJon - nice to see you posting again.

I served as an election worker in ‘08 and will again tomorrow.  Iowa doesn’t require picture ID or anything else.  I had a moment of of humor though when someone tried to give me their ID even after I explained I didn’t need it - it was mid-day, and relatively quiet, especially since we had line out the door and down the block at 8am as everyone voted before work.  None of those voters even thought twice about ID.  But at 1 or 2 in the afternoon, this old fart wouldn’t take no for answer, and wanted me to make damn sure he was who he said he was.

My polling place captain is an old hand.  if we have any shenanigans, she’ll kick ass and take names.  I’ll be the guy writing the names.

Comment #20: idiosynchronic  on  11/01  at  06:13 PM

I get everything except the part where 1,000 white fucks feel entitled to ask me for my id?  What’s that about?  Who gives them this authority?  You can just go up to anybody at a polling place and challenge their right to vote?

Comment #21: Lady Vader  on  11/01  at  06:33 PM

Don’t forget that a suspicious fire in Houston destroyed 10,000 voting machines a few months ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/us/politics/11voting.html

Lines will be very long in Harris County tomorrow, affording these assholes more opportunity to intimidate and disenfranchise.

Comment #22: Babieca  on  11/01  at  07:06 PM

I actually got a vote-suppression robocall before the 2008 election.  I’m white, but I live in a black-majority precinct, and this was obviously targeted at black voters (I don’t think one’s voter registration states your race, so all they can do is identify which are the black neighborhoods and call those).  It was a clearly black-sounding (they made sure of that!) male voice, telling me that I would be getting a form in the mail and all I had to do in order to be able to vote was fill out this form and be sure to send it back in time!  He sounded like he was just trying to be oh-so-helpful in telling us what we need to do to vote, because he wants us to vote!  Of course, there is no freakin’ form, and as an already-registered voter I know I need to do nothing else to be eligible to vote.  But they were clearly trying to imply that if you hadn’t gotten and turned in this form, you wouldn’t be allowed to vote.

It pissed me off so bad.  I did report it to our Secretary of State, but there was little identifying information with the call to tell who originated it.

Comment #23: CalliopeJane  on  11/01  at  07:47 PM

More Republican voter fraud:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/10/31/914469/-Suppressing-the-vote

Comment #24: judybrowni  on  11/01  at  08:10 PM

#23 I remember hearing about such a call in the news. This makes me so sad. I think I will just start drinking at 7pm tomorrow and not stop for about a week :(

Comment #25: alysia  on  11/01  at  08:21 PM

I get everything except the part where 1,000 white fucks feel entitled to ask me for my id?  What’s that about?  Who gives them this authority?  You can just go up to anybody at a polling place and challenge their right to vote?

Depending on the state, perhaps?  I’m not sure on election laws outside of PA really (sad, but I don’t need to vote in the other 49, so pfft to that!)  In PA there is a special procedure to de-certify somebody’s vote and frankly is near impossible to actually make happen since poll watchers from both parties have to take the voting party to the seat of power and most voters won’t want to go, it is basically still held regardless so it is near impossible to decertify more than perhaps 20-30 votes in any given county.  On top of that most judges won’t want to deal with the case unless there is an explicit reason mainly to do with the paperwork or registration itself. 

I have a vaguely spanish-sounding last name and when I moved to my current neighborhood a republican watcher challenged my registration until I showed him my University ID and my graduate ring.  If he wanted to go downtown I was welcome to tromp down there with him, in fact we could drive down together. 

They’re the lowest scum, it seems though in many states like Texas they’re just using legalized harassment outside the polls to drive away the poor.

Comment #26: Xeranar  on  11/01  at  08:24 PM

I don’t mean to be intrusive, but I can’t tell the race of the voters in the orange banner.  Could you tell me what you’re seeing?  There’s just not enough info in the picture for me to see anything… But then again, I’m pretty bad at telling people’s faces unless I’ve seen them from lots of angles and attention to them.

Comment #27: Crissa  on  11/01  at  08:31 PM

There’s voter fraud going on, but it’s not being perpetrated by voters in the voting booths, if they even have access to them, and if the machines even work properly.

Comment #28: snobographer  on  11/01  at  08:32 PM

I was in the detroit airport recently and overheard a woman a few seats down talking about how Houston (her destination) used to be really nice but now there are all these Katrina refugees and she doesn’t blame them but you know…

I would have liked to have confronted her, or at least told her to fuck off, but I had visions of getting hauled into some TSA backroom and eventually ending up in some secret CIA prison in Libya or something.

The best part was that it was 11:30AM and she was drinking an enormous margarita.  I was like, honey, you don’t get to complain about other people being drunkards and lazy when you’re drinking a margarita before noon.  (Which is not to say I’ve never done exactly that.)

Comment #29: LauraB  on  11/01  at  08:45 PM

Uh, nd by “done exactly that” I mean “consumed a margarita before noon.”  In case that wasn’t clear.

Comment #30: LauraB  on  11/01  at  08:47 PM

I voted last Thursday in GA, where I had to show my drivers’ license. The photo ID thing is something I have to step back and admire as a great conservative attack meme: I hate it, but I have to admit its brilliance. Because really, unless you’re seriously disabled or extremely elderly/isolated, you’ve got to be pretty damn unengaged if you’re a US citizen and can’t come up with a photo ID. So even though I know it’s just a bullshit way to intimidate people, I knee-jerk agree with it on the emotional level those What’s the Matter with Kansas? people are always arguing Dems need to connect on. “Come on!,” the voice in my head says. “Just go get yourself an ID, you lazy…” It’s some of their best work.

Comment #31: felagund  on  11/01  at  10:25 PM

A photo ID and proof of citizenship should be required to register to vote.

Remember back in the nineties, when they hated Clinton because he was gonna make us all get gub’mint ID cards to vote, and then use those cards to track down all the patriotic Americans and take their guns away? Ah, the crazies were so much more entertaining in those days.

Comment #32: Mike Crichton  on  11/01  at  10:49 PM

felagund, think how often your ID is expired, though.

Comment #33: Crissa  on  11/01  at  11:11 PM

I’m an election judge in St Paul, MN and picked up some voting materials downtown tonight.  Our county elections director was telling someone how he spent 3 hours in court this morning dealing with an issue that I would put into the vote suppression category.

Apparently there is some group here in MN that want to wear buttons saying, “Please ID Me,” to their polling places.  Judge ruled that is political speech that is not allowed in polling places, same as if you had a t-shirt bearing a candidate’s name.

They gave us some additional guidance on what is NOT allowed in the polling place, but if people refuse to remove or cover the offending article, they have instructed us to let any eligible person vote, of course, but to take down the name and address of the offending party for relaying to the proper authorities.

his kind of thing has never been an issue before.  We have always had to remind a few people that just forgot that they had a button on their jacket, but I’ve never seen anyone be defiant when asked to remove or cover it.  I hope there will be no trouble.

Comment #34: gravitybear  on  11/01  at  11:25 PM

No ID requirement in MN (for those already registered), and we have same-day registration (for those who aren’t).

Lamest voter suppression tactic I’ve seen used was in 2008 when the republican “challenger” (poll watchers aren’t allowed under MN law) told me this:
He pointed to a young guy in line and said that if he attempted to vote, the repub would challenge him. 
Me: Why?
Repub: He’s already voted, he has an “I VOTED” sticker. 

Mind, these stickers were just spread out on a table ahead of time so that I didn’t have to assign anyone to hand them out and in no way represented proof that someone had voted.

Comment #35: gravitybear  on  11/01  at  11:33 PM

gravitybear:  This is where the ‘talking to small children voice’ comes into my head and says, ‘yes, that’s a good start, however…’

Comment #36: Crissa  on  11/02  at  01:50 AM

Ugh, people here in Houston that whine about Katrina flee-ers really ARE insufferable. Now that Harris County is majority Hispanic, conservatives are frothing at the mouth even more.

Comment #37: gotthatpma  on  11/02  at  02:24 AM

#27 It’s a black man, a black woman, and the top of a blonde or grey-haired white or hispanic woman’s head. I can tell the first two based on hair texture - even straightened black hair reflects light differently - and the woman’s prognathism.

Comment #38: Selena777  on  11/02  at  03:26 AM

IIRC another one that’s come up in the past is them finding “evidence” that a person voted twice, in two different precincts in the same state.  Some folks have followed up on that sort of accusation in the past, and actually found that it was two different people, with the same first and last name, born on the first date.  Which turns out is actually more common than voter fraud.

Comment #39: sacundim  on  11/02  at  03:46 AM

It occurs to me wrt the union/professor examples of taking people to the polls and then making sure they vote that the law in most places is that you get time off to go vote, not that you get time off on election day to go do what-the-fuck-ever.  If the union guys are out there insisting that employers give employees their due leave to go to the polls, how much do you want to bet these same whackjobs would be raising a ruckus over lazy union leeches if any of those same workers popped off to the mall instead?

Comment #40: preying mantis  on  11/02  at  08:43 AM

I have both given people rides to the polls and helped disabled people fill out their ballots. Nice to know I am considered a great threat to the GOP—and I am: their biggest complaint about elections is that my side is engaged in a sketchy scheme to get more people to vote for our guy than their guy.

Comment #41: Tyro  on  11/02  at  10:40 AM

Crissa, yeah,true.  I know there are some who never have their driver’s license expire, and hooray for them, but it happens to me all the time.

Of course, I’m never challenged when I go vote so it doesn’t matter.

I’m white.  I’m married.  I live in the suburban paradise of Fort Salonga, Long Island.

I bet almost everyone assumes I am there to vote for “the right people” anyway.

Comment #42: Lady Vader  on  11/02  at  11:55 AM

Union leaders giving union members rides to the polls, and waiting around for their fellows while they’re voting.  This was interpreted by the paranoid witness as “forcing” them to vote.

Am I the only person who doesn’t see the problem with “forcing” someone to vote? Even forcing someone to vote for a particular candidate isn’t literally voter fraud, though I understand that it’s the same broad category of wrong. But simply getting someone to cast a ballot whootherwise wouldn’t have—big deal, no?

Well, except that low turnout favors Republicans. I mean obviously the union leader is giving people rides because he expects them to vote for the union-supported candidate, but that’s not the same thing as tit-for-tat.

each discrete “fake” voter would have to get two registrations without the system flagging them.

Or people who aren’t entitled to vote at all would have to register without the system flagging them. Actually aren’t entitled, like resident aliens or young teenagers.

I just have to hope that Wednesday morning does not bring about the bloodbath for Democrats that all of the DC loudmouths keep predicting.
Comment 3—serious bette

Particularly since wingnuts will crow about having stopped George Soros from duping black people into stealing the elections.

Though obviously they won’t phrase it that way, since wingnuts think “black people” is an oxymoron.

I’ll bet these numbnuts assume that you only have to show up at the polls in order to vote.  Since teabaggers have no concept of how the government works, of course they don’t conceive of voter registration
Comment 5—keshmeshi

Which means that when they show up, unregistered, and are turned away, they’ll cry “Fraud! Suppression! Give me my rights!”

you have to register weeks in advance of election day
Comment 5

Not everywhere.

It only appears to be America that entwines politics with what other countries see as a necessarily bureaucratic function.
Comment 16—PiaToR

No civil service in the U.S. That is, obviously there is one, but at the upper levels it’s political appointees. Yes, Minister could never be made here because, among other things, it’s impossible for an elected official’s staff to be working against them, or even to have separate goals. At least, not for long.

I don’t mean to be intrusive, but I can’t tell the race of the voters in the orange banner
Comment #27: Crissa

Oh, good, I thought it was just me. Y’know, we’re so progressive we don’t even see color ...

(Though, looking again, I see the prognathism too, now that I know to look for it.)

lazy when you’re drinking a margarita before noon.  (Which is not to say I’ve never done exactly that.)
Comment 29—LauraB

But you managed to do it without being racist.

Mike Crichton at 32, to a wingnut those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

Comment #43: Hershele Ostropoler  on  11/02  at  12:04 PM

I’m surprised more stated don’t have mail voting, like Oregon does. Although I suppose wing nuts don’t want that as it would let the ‘wrong’ people vote way too easily.
Comment #12: dahllaz

The whing-nuts in Washington claim voter fraud for King County (which like Oregon has 100% mail in) because “you can steal people’s ballots from their mail boxes or fill it out for them if you see it laying on their kitchen table.”  Or some crap like that.

Evidently they use projection to disseminate their plans on stuffing the ballots.

Comment #44: cynickal  on  11/02  at  12:14 PM

My mother’s a postal worker… if anyone besides a resident of the household or a letter carrier tampers with the contents of a mailbox, that’s a federal crime. ACORN’s 47 ronin must feel really lucky.

Comment #45: Selena777  on  11/02  at  12:22 PM

My mother’s a postal worker… if anyone besides a resident of the household or a letter carrier tampers with the contents of a mailbox, that’s a federal crime. ACORN’s 47 ronin must feel really lucky.

Comment #45: Selena777

Well, you and I know that.  But we’re talking about whing-nuts who can’t even figure out that when you register to vote you’ve already provided ID.

I had one idiot police officer argue with me (on-line) that undocumented workers in Washington get State Driver’s Licenses all the time.  I told him he’s full of tea-cracker shit and he’s slandering his fellow civil servants.  (Then stopped replying to him)

Comment #46: cynickal  on  11/02  at  12:33 PM

Well, cynickal, I understand that some states don’t explicitly prohibit undocumented workers from getting drivers’ licenses, for a very practical reason: no license means no driver’s test and no insurance. You want people to have licenses, even if they’re not supposed to be in this country.

Comment #47: catfood  on  11/02  at  01:35 PM
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