Wow—what a slick design! Big thumbs-up!

It’s a little on the wide side, people with lower-resolution screens might find it difficult to read since they’ll have to scroll all the way to the right in order to read the content.

Hmmm.  Change is always a bit of a nuisance to get used to but initial perspective is OK.

I like the design overall, but maybe because of the “wideness” Mighty Ponygirl mentioned the brown bar on the left is cutting into the text making the black font difficult to read.  Also, for some reason I’m having to scroll way down to get past the adds and to the top post.  I know nothing about site design so anybody who know’s why this is happening and if it’s something I can fix on my end let me know.

Not a big fan of the new design, although I think it would be just fine if the menu/adspace was on the right side like it used to be.

I like the header and the menu bar on the left.

I don’t like the actual content pushed all the way over to the right however.  Would prefer menu on left, blog in center, adspace on right.

overall very slick looking (in a good way).

Design is fine by me, once it starts working properly.  Content and the top banner should clearly be in the white space at right, starting near the top of the page, not starting in the brown ad banner, below the ads.

Yay for no funny numbers!  (Let us hope the bots allow us to stay funny-number free.)

Congrats on the new page.

Wow, went to register and it says we’re not allowed to be vulgar?  Seriously?  Here?  Delaying registration in hopes that the TOS will be rewritten to be more in line with the Pandagon experience.

Agree with catswym about the layout.  Don’t like having the text all the way on the right.

Side ads are somehow more obnoxious with this layout, probably because they’re on the left instead of the right.  Was that a conscious decision to increase ad visibility?  Since I read RTL, I tend to spend more cognitive effort not looking at the ads than I did before.  Content trumps ads.

BLUF: I prefer it to the old site design.
Like others, I’d prefer the content in the middle instead of on the far right.  Also, the four icons directly under the Pandagon name look out of place.  On the positive side, I’m a big fan of the “Previous entry” and “Next entry” tabs on top of each entry.  Also, the “Recently” portion of the menu bar.  Also also, that there is no longer unreadable numbers for me to type in each time I want to post.  I think I love that best of all.

Put my vote in with catswym’s.  Otherwise, a hearty thumbs-up!

I’m with the others here ... I don’t like the two columns on the left, as it pushes the actual blog too far to the right ... makes the whole blog seem unbalanced, not to mention with my smaller ibook screen I need to scroll sideways ...

I’d say have the navigation menu on the left, the advert menu on the right, and have the blog in the middle.

And the design in general? Honestly, not my cup of tea. Seems a little 1997 freeware web-editor to me.

What Olivia said.  The content is pushed way down the page and squashed into the brown bar.  Nice design, though; fix the layout issues and it’ll be great.

Agree with critcisms above.  Especially the brown column covering black print.

The new color scheme looks great, and I like the new comment system. Having both sidebars on the left makes it a bit hard to read though. Also, the new Panda-Banner looks cool, though I do miss the old one.

I feel mixed about it, though I know it’ll all be better in a couple days whe I gget usetd tod it. 

OK, there are serious problems with this comment text box.  WTF?

This is the only BIG problem I’m having so far.  Is it just me?et

I’d also point out that our email address is no longer hidden from view but is clickable out of our name.  Not a big issue for me and my yahoo address, but some might not want their email address to be known by the wider community.

I too would prefer the content in the middle, not on the far right.  If I had my preference, “clicky” stuff like the nav bar would be on the right and “looky” stuff like ads on the left.

Holy shit. Well this is just… spiffy. I kinda miss the grumpy panda in the tub already, though. Maybe you could put a tiny version of her at the bottom of one of the sidebars, just for ol’ times’ sake.

I’d prefer content on the left as well.

I like the header font.

I don’t mind the ToS saying you can’t be vulgar. Depends on the definition to vulgar.

Curse words? Not vulgar. They’re just words.

Approving comments regarding evo psych? THAT’S vulgar

I am in complete agreement with Sarah in Chicago.  So… what she said.

Also, I think the old site was a bit more “serious” looking.  Not sure how to describe it, but I prefered it.

I have a horizontal scroll bar. That’s annoying. (My screen is set to 1024x768.)

Also, the preview page is messed up; I see four boxes for personal information, and the “Remember my personal information” text is missing.

Ooooh, I don’t like that email addresses (which are required) are public.  Is that really necessary?

I likey.  I don’t seem to be having troubles with the wide format, but I have a wide screen.  No brown bar either.

I agree about content vs. ad placement; the content should be central.  I also think that overall things are too busy, and the lines are not clean enough.

Also, comments are no longer numbered; was that intentional?  I have a significant preference for numbered comments.

What they said. Also, the double bars around the comments are kinda distracting and a waste of space. (I really kinda liked the old design.)

(Also I hatehatehatehatehate smileycode in the comments, but that’s just me)

There is A LOT of “white space” on the page, that could be filled if the actual posts/comments were stretched out (and centered).  I don’t like that the comments spill over to page two after only 20 or so.  I liked the format on the old site, where one thread was contained in one page and one page only.

Whoa, email addresses are public?  THIS IS NOT COOL.  Please delete my previous comment ASAP (this one is using a fake email address).

Seriously, do you know how hard I have worked to keep personally identifiable information separate from my online names?  It is completely and totally non-standard, and highly inappropriate, to show people’s email addresses - I want mine gone NOW.

Not liking that the comments spill over to a second page either.  Also, I now have to click on “Comments” to get the comments to appear on the post page, whereas on the old site they were just listed underneath the post on each post page.  But now I"m really just nitpicking.

Ah man, am I the only one who has a problem? I’m viewing from a work machine (so any “change the browser” fixes are out) and I see the column of red and then a column of black… that goes RIGHT OVER the black text of the posts. To read them I have to highlight them. Also (and I’m assuming this is the real problem) the ads are all clustering at the top of the page (in the ‘old’ version they clustered at the bottom for me… which I saw as a feature, not a bug) so I have to scroll past them all to get to the meat of things.

Oh, and I second the comment about not making our e-mails spam-bot-searchable (or troll searchable, but it’s really the bots that are the problems imo)

Oh, and I’m using IE v6.0 if that makes any difference.

I agree with everyone else who doesn’t like the two columns on the left, but I’m commenting to report a bug with the new RSS feed.

When I read it on my RSS reader all of the paragraph breaks are stripped out. Is there anything you can do about that?

And another niggling point: It would be nice for commenters to know if their email address will be kept private or not. Right now the form doesn’t say either way, so unless you’ve commented before you won’t know. There’s also no indication that it’s a required field.

Using Internet Explorer 6.0, with a text size set at medium, the articles are pushed way down, below the last entry in the inboard sidebar.

Yeah, if email addresses are going to be published, there really needs to be a warning so that people can choose to use a fake one (or just not comment). That’s a big deal.

If you could, I’d like my previous comment to be removed as well.

I like it! But the Brady Bunch may call and want their font back.

Um, yeah. Wipe my comments too, if the emails are going to be published.

I agree with those who say:
1. say that the content should be central, not off to the right;
2. don’t like the comments stretching out over multiple pages (which will be hell on long, involved threads);
3. that they don’t really like the retro look.

Sorry, but you did ask.

Change is a universal constant; without change, things become stagnant and ossified.  Progressivism is all about change.

I’ll just agree with the others on the minor nitpicks about column layout and email addresses being public (you commenters shouldn’t be using an email address you want kept private anyway; just get a throwaway Hotmail account and use that).  Overall, it looks good.  Colorful, energetic, it has character.  We’ll get used to it soon enough!

changing the text size didn’t change anything for me but the ads… so viewing at medium text IE 6.0 still has the posts spilling over through the black column.

Looks good!
Though I’d like to add to the chorus & vote for the ads to occur on the right of the blog—kind of a pain to always be scrolling right to get to the good stuff.

I don’t like that comments go into multiple pages.  I’d rather they all show up in one long thingie so you can ctrl-F to pick up where you left off reading earlier.

Love the new site. I don’t comment much but do thank you for all the great info and interesting posts.

I’m not liking the display of email address with comment or the whole register/login thing.  Sarah in Chicago covers most of my other thoughts.

Congratulations! Who is the designer?

What I like:
* The return of the old domain
* The left-hand menu
* Grooviness

What I don’t like:
* Source order—ads before content makes browsing on my handheld a pain in the ass
* Content to the right of the ads
* Paginated comments

Change is neither good nor bad. Sure I liked the previous design, but we humans are quick to adapt and will be used to this in no time.  I just hope you might be able to take some of the criticisms here in the constructive spirit and improve the overall usability of the site.  Congratulations again.

Love the new look.  LOVE the header with the icons.  Also, I am strange I guess, but I enjoy reading on the right.

Also not cool with names linked to email addresses, should link to blog when given.

Also not getting paragraph breaks in my reader (Bloglines).

Love the colors and the fonts!

Too wide, scrolls horizontally (1024 pixels here)
Can’t use Opera’s “fit to width” either
Feed now unusable, used to read entire articles from it when I was offline (on bus/metro/etc.)
Comments don’t show right away, need to click twice to get at them from feed
... then they paginate, after 20 or so entries. You regularly get 100+ comments!

The brown bar makes it difficult to read the text.

I think it’s cool. I especially like the moire panda logo.

Um, did anybody else get the bottom of the comments, click next page, and end up at the beginning of the comments thread again?

Like many others, I like the color scheme but wish the blog was in the middle.  Also, comments broken up into pages is a big pet peeve of mine, but since I know nothing about setting up web-pages and blogs I don’t know if this is under your control or not.

Hmm, this is making me itch to rearrange my living room.

Looks like several changes are already in effect. Somebody is reading our comments and acting, as we speak!

Do you mind telling us who is handling your hosting?

come-ons:

Aw, come-on, do you really expect me to update my bookmarks with every move?

Oh, that button, there?  Ok, nevermind.

For those worried about their e-mail addresses, if you have a site url entered, it defaults to showing that rather than your e-mail address.

liberalrob, the point is that at the blogsome site (and I believe at the old pandagon.net), email addresses were by default never displayed.  This is standard at several other sites too (Feministe and Shakesville come to mind).  Now they are by default displayed (and you are required to enter one), which is a major change that happened with no warning. 

At sites where I know my email will be displayed, I do use a “fake” one.  But I used my real email at Pandagon because I knew no one but the mods would see it, and if they needed/wanted to get in touch with me, I wanted them to be able to use the email I’d actually read.

very difficult ... I can’t read text under the brown stripe, and ads ads ads at the top are annoying.  Almost like we are expected to have wide screen everywhere ... except it doesn’t render properly in firefox at home on a wide screen, either.

The basic shell is there ... still needs a lot of work to get things in their proper places and readable, too!

I heartily approve of the picture.

And the site now takes much less time to load.  A definite plus in my book.

How long should I expect to wait until I get that email containing membership activation instructions?

Er… on my work machine (IE 6.0 medium font size) black bar covers up left side of article, need to highlight to see it.  Also, I had to scroll past all the ads to get to the article—kinda weird.  New look is great, but spacing seems to be a problem.  Can Rust/Black/White sections of page be set to percentage rather than fixed width?  (pulling html knowledge out of the rusted-shut storage center in my brain)

Oh snap! There’s no bookmark identifier that allows us to link directly to an individual comment!  Surely this will change.

I’m having the same no-paragraphs problem with the rss feed (using Google Reader, if it matters).  As for the redesign, it’s fine in my book, but my opinion doesn’t matter much since I primarily read the site through the feed.

Overall, love the look of the site. That said, I don’t like the location of the ads, I feel it puts more emphasis on them than the navigation bar.

wow! and thanks! to the admin for monitoring this and fixing many of the problems noted. Speedy work like that is teh awesome!

(now about that black on brown problem….)

I also read through a feedreader and the content is pushed way off to the right, because of both info bars being on the left. I’m a fan of content-on-left, info-on-right, but that may just be me.

Snazzy look though and I like the colorso.

I like the general style of the website, but I really prefer the text to be more towards the center of the screen.  Not that I’m in charge, but I’d like to see the brown bar moved to the left of the screen and the text centered.  Also handy for the wideness problem, so that if you are using a narrower window, the blog entries are still there.

Probably worth noting that splitting the two bars up would appear to leave the cute widdle panda with nowhere to go.

I want numbered comments to refer back to.  And I’m a wierdo who likes the comments on the right.

Yikes… sorry, don’t like this layout at all. First off, it’s wider than my actual screen—I have h-scroll. The top banner is enormous—between that and the sidebars the actual content is scrunched into like 1/4 the size of a window. Layout shouldn’t overwhelm content. The “shilling” bar in particular is ridiculous—it looks awkward right next to the other sidebar and there’s only about two inches of content there. Past those three ads you’re then left with this enormous black bar running all the way down the page, just wasting space.

If it were me, I would suggest one of these two things, either:

1. Kill the black bar and move your “shilling” into the top banner. There’s room… or
2. On the other hand the black bar might look less weird if it were on the other side framing the content rather than shoving it off the right side of the page. Maybe move the black bar to the right side, and reduce the size of the top banner by putting the searchbox/logo/badges horizontally alongside each other rather than just stacking them as you do now.

*Very* happy to have a preview function. Though have you tried the preview function? There’s some glitches. Some of the images disappear, some of the text goes white, and a mysterious “location” box appears. I think the relative paths to some of your interface elements break when you’re previewing.

Will your archives be coming back?

Couple of minor points:

- the powder-blue lines are unnecessary visual noise, as are the thick outlines surrounding each comment entry.
- you should at least vary the baseline of the retro font graphics so that identical letters (shilling, most notably, but see also ‘members’) don’t look weird. That’s essential for this hand-painted hippie font to look nice.

I really hate to party poop here, but it looks like monkey butt to me. My IE is putting the banner waaay down the page, while at the top is only a left bar crammed with ads and a bunch of white space on the right. I can’t read the bits of text that drift into the black bar, either.

Difficult to read the text when it transitions from a dark color to white.  Things are overlaid and covered up with my browser, which SHOULD be pretty up to date, since this is an government computeing system…  I don’t know.  I hate change for the sake of change.  Yeah, Wordpress is pretty crappy, but I dislike new fancy stuff that doesn’t work as good as it used to.  I hardly ever read FDL because of those reasons, and I CAN’T read HuffPo on my home computer.  I think that blogs (not necessarily this one) should really consider the impact on readers, who may not have the most up to date equipment, before they really going whole hog with changes.  I mean, I never have problems with looking at web sites for newspapers or magazines, but many blogs, I just cannot even open any more.  I would say this is indicative of problems with the blog updates, not the readers computer system.

Like a few others above, I have a lot of trouble reading when the content is on the right of the page, especially when the columns to the left of the text are boldly-colored.

Yeah, I must admit to certain display issues, too.  Everything is much too far to the right, especially for Pandagon.

More importantly, Mr. Taylor, could you bring Ezra Klein back?

I love everything except that its right-aligned. I visit so many other sites that are center or somewhat to the right that left aligned has always been something I like about pandagon.  Maybe if the colors were different and they weren’t so bold, but I actually really like the color scheme. As English readers, we are trained to read right to left so its kind of annoying. I do hope you will consider left aligning.

And with more and more people reading on mobile devices, I would avoid having a horizontal scroll bar if you can. I am also on a pretty good resolution and I have a horizontal scroll bar.

Fix the Brown Bar, please!

Another strong vote for left-alignedness.  VERY hard to read on the right.

Not a big fan of the cartoony type. It’s at odds with the color scheme. Your type says fun, your colors say not fun.

My little computer screen just isn’t coping.  The header is huge, the left bars are noisy, and I have to scroll to the right to read the coment.  Also, the boxes around each comment are a little much.  The Shilling column on the right would clear some things up.  Also, smilie-code is of the devil. 

Congrats on the new site, though.  Will be looking into the choice of software—always interesting to find something new.

Very. very cool.  Now I can say that I read a blog that is on the Far Right!

Not to sound like a complaint—it’s not; the general design looks good—I’m running IE 6.0.2900, and a large number of ads are stacked up on the left (Within the Red and Brown vertical bars), and the Pandagon title and navigation bar pushed *way* down the page—I couldn’t see it until I scrolled nearly two ‘screens’ down at 1024X768 resolution. 

The left-hand portion of any black text (the posts below the panda photo; the identifiers for Name, Email, Remember my information, etc.) isn’t easily read against the brown vertical bar.

Otherwise, it’s a nice redesign!

Overall, very nice! The one detail that I am having a very hard time getting used to is the two narrow columns on the left. I keep feeling like I’m about to fall over to the right ... and no, I haven’t been drinking again!

The left-hand portion of any black text (the posts below the panda photo; the identifiers for Name, Email, Remember my information, etc.) isn’t easily read against the brown vertical bar.

Ditto for me, minus the “easily”: the black-on-brown text is completely illegible in my browser. Even the red links at the top are really jarring as they cross the divide from brown to white.

FWIW, if the design stays, I’m not going to read Pandagon anymore; no offense, but cutting and pasting every post into a text file just won’t be worth it.

Oddly, as I do more on the site, some of the black text has magically transformed to white. Is this a CSS problem? If so, your designer needs to figure out what kind of cross-browser voodoo is causing these problems.

Another vote for center aligning the text. I have to scroll over to read it as it is now. Numbered comments would be good, especially as discussion get lively and we are quoting each other.

Otherwise, looks good.

FTY, using Mac OS 10.3.9 and Safari 1.3.2. (Yeah, it’s old, and it IS time for me to get a new computer. Maybe when my “stimulus” check finally comes.)

The layout isn’t displaying properly on my laptop, so much so that the site is fairly unreadable. I’m running IE6 on Windows XP, if you’re interested for debugging purposes.

Is too wide (iBook, Safari 3, 1024x768). Horizontal scrolling hurts the baby pandas. Put the main column in the middle, move the brown bar to the right, pls thx bai.

It looks ok, I do like the colors.  I just find it weird that if I click on the headline I am taken to a page with just the post, but to see the comments I have to click on the comments link.  I get by just clicking on the comments link in the first place off the main page I can see the comments, it just seems like you would be taken to comments by going to the headline link as well.

I, too, have to scroll to the right to see the content. Prefer it on the left or in the center. Thanks for asking.

purty.

move the ads to the right and center the text in the middle, its really annoying the way its set up right now.

Lookin’ good!  It makes me want to spruce up my netcrib a little.

Ahsumz!

We really do need an RSS feed for the comments as well.

And… and… and… a daily Chris Muir cartoon!

Dude, there’s no come-ons in here.

Can you get a message to Marc for me?

It looks okay in SeaMonkey, and it doesn’t take a long time to load, unlike the previous site.

Just another reason to discard Internet Exploder as a web browser, IMHO.

sweet! i love the color scheme. It would be great to have a link to Pam’s House Blend at the top, if she’s interested in putting it up there—i shuttle between her blog and this one whenever she posts or tips off that she’s cross-blogging at “her pad.” I agree about keeping personal info private, putting content in the middle, and moving the brown bar out of the panda’s way. I heart this particular panda.

As long as I can send it direct. Last time he said you never let him have his turn.

Monopolizer.

Looks good, performs badly (yslow score:33). The new software seems quite fast, the actual html is downloaded in 108ms, which is awesome compared to wordpress. Things go to hell with all the js files, a lot of them seem to come from advertising. But the main offender is actually the “share this” link, you seem to have included this script 7 times, and each time the browser wants to refetch it, and takes like 200ms each time. The thing is huge as well, I wonder how necessary the full sharethis js? It would be faster if you just included links.

Things would also be faster if there was only one source for ads, all the different ad js files add a lot of overhead and really slow things down.

Really, the major issue here is that are 60 requests to load the page, which in my opinion is too many, if someone has time I would recommend spriting the css images, seeing if you can get rid of some js and css files, looking for duplicate files (feed.css from blogads and index.php?css are included twice) and consider getting rid of the amazon widget, or maybe look for a smaller one that doesn’t bring in 40k of images (slowly!)

Atrios speculates that Jesse is returning.  Not that I object to the present operators of this blog, but I miss Jesse

Only thing I don’t quite like is the font used to headline your categories on the left side bar (members, recently, categories, etc.). I’ve always hated that goofy font. It’s… well, goofy.

Colors, great. New logo, great. Look and feel, great. I actually quite like the boxed comments (and thank you for not going with nested comments, the scourge of the blogosphere).

Like everyone else, I think the main content should be centered between the two sidebars. The layout ought to fit on a maximized browser window at 1024x768 without a horizontal scroll bar, but something is causing it to insist on drawing an unnecessary right-hand border that makes the layout too wide. Comments need to be on a single page and need to have their own RSS feed.

Overall, very nice redesign!

PS… can we have a “Main” button in between “Next entry” and “Previous entry”?

The RSS feed has no paragraph breaks, making it difficult to read.  The old feed also had the author of the post at the top after the title, which was a really nice feature.  Could you please add that back in?

PPS… can clicking on the “Comments” button take you to the first comment, as in the days of yore?

The RSS feed has no paragraph breaks

Not seeing this on my reader (Vienna). Paragraph breaks are fine for me.

The old feed also had the author of the post at the top after the title, which was a really nice feature.

Seconded.

“We fixed the Terms of Service.  If you sign up, you are permitted to curse your head off in comments.  I promise we will not boot you for profanity.”

Oh goody, how exciting! I am dying to utter my first curse word, but I think I will save it up for a special occasion. This is a really nice design. I liked the old one, too, but you guys have the brown, red and yellow going here, which is very rare. There is not even a national flag for any country in the world to which I can match this color combination! Bravo for innovative, nationless or trans-national Pandagon.

Still no confirmation email from registering an account, and no indication anywhere of how to contact the Admin in case of such problem.  he;lp

I really don’t like how dominated by ads it makes the site seem.  If this design is kept, I’ll probably stop visiting.

Love the color scheme, hate having two sidebars on the right. No need to number comments—the name and time work fine as a reference and do get messed up when you have to can the occasional miscreant.

Also, if you have readers still on dialup (not all of us are latte-swilling broadbanders), heed Stephen’s comments; this stuff actually matters but is so easy to ignore unless you’re the one using a steam-powered modem. Then again, ExpressionEngine might not give you much choice.

OK, your other right. My cryptodexterity strikes again.

NOW YOU GO FOR THE PANDAS???

When, like, the real animals are being carried out of the earthquake zones in Sichuan province on stretchers???

Hey, why not design your site around cute Chinese human orphans???

They also are very appealing.

Personally, I find that having the blog entries on the right side of the screen is really annoying. Centered would be better, and moving to the left side would be best. Looks good otherwise, but since the “Pandagon” title isn’t centered on the screen (at least not my screen), maybe it would be better centered over the entries (especially since the top of the column is curved).

Seeing everyone’s names in tiny print after their post instead of large and before it is a bit jarring, but I’ll get used to it.

Permalinks to comments are broken. I use those a lot, so if the coder in charge of that portion of the template could have a look, I’d be much obliged. (All of the anchors are named “#comment_34”, and the links all go to http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/what_do_you_think/#161 and the like, even after the first page.) Also, when fixed, the anchor names shouldn’t begin with a hash (they should read ‘a name=“161”’ or “comment_161” or the like). Also, as they’re invisible, placing them at the top of the comment box is an invisible change… until you go to the link; if the anchor is at the bottom of the comment box, the user’ll have to scroll up to see the linked comment. If you can edit the templates, the anchor should be right after the opening “div class=“comment-body2”” or “div class=“comment-body1” tag.

The preview screen looks quite odd; there are four text-boxes rather than three, all of them with invisible (white-on-white) labels. (The third one is “location”.) Might just be my browser, though. (Epiphany 2.20.1.)

Congratulations on your new digs!  Very nice new place you got here.

Another vote for content on the left, please!!

Congrats on the move, but it still loads slow.  <8^(

(excessively big BG image?  It should be tiny….)

Having the content on the right makes me discontent. It’s atrocious. Color scheme is pretty bad, too.

Looking at it from home, using IE 7.0, it looks a lot better.

Using IE 6.0 on the old site, photograpohs that were partially or totally in a blockquote were hidden by the grey background; using Firefox, they weren’t.  I’m guessing that you have been using a higher version of IE or perhaps using Firefox when you set up the theme, but from the comments above, you’ve got a lot of people still using 6.0.

Even with everything where it should be on my screen, I’ve got to agree with those who find the text on the right harder to read.  It’s just not the natural place for English readers, apparently.

Oh, and add another vote for all the comments on one page. This is going to be particularly important because right now the comment box shows up on p.1 as well as subsequent pages, and you’re going to have a lot of people getting confused by not reading everything before commenting, freaking out that their comment didn’t appear because they didn’t click through to page whatever, blah blah blah. (I kinda liked the numbers too, because it was a way to keep your place on long threads.) I would hate to see the comment section get barfed up because of user interface issues.

I went ahead and re-registered, and saw, in the Terms of Service:

By registering at this site you agree not to post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, or that violate any laws.  We will permanently ban all users who do so.

Well, at least y’all never banned me from the old site just because some might have thought that comments which disagreed with liberal theology constituted hate speech! 

NOW YOU GO FOR THE PANDAS???

Was there some lack of pandas at the last site that I wasn’t aware of?

squeeee! i like it, and it loads sooooooooooo much faster for me than the old site did. the ads do distract me when on the left of the main text, but i can cope. the colors are showing up as red, brown and white on my monitor, which reminds me of a striped shirt from the 70s, possibly made of velour, possibly with matching velour pants. i dig it.

I, too, would like the RSS creator/author field to return.

The site looks nice.

Looks spiff on my Mac (Safari), looks GODAWFUL on my work PC (IE 6.0).  Please fix it so I can get my Pandagon fix at work!

Yes, in IE6 the black text migrates over the brown bar and is impossible to read.  I switched to Firefox, no problem;  still, those color bars become a waste of about 40% of the screen space as you scroll down.  Will check it out under IE7 on my Vista laptop later on and advise.

Colors & readability: good
Text pushed to the right: bad
Alternating color comments: good
No comment numbers: bad
New banner graphic: good
New banner font: bad

A mixed bag, but I think my biggest peeve is the text being shoved to the right.

well, i was over at eschaton and i clicked on a link that said “jessie’s back.”  which brought me here.  actually, it DIDN’T bring me here.  it brought me to an utterly blank page, save for the gold-to-yellow color blend thangy.

i still do most of my internet stuff on mozilla for OS X, because i like the composer, “send page,” and integrated mail features, all of which have been discontinued in firefox.  however, mozilla works with fewer and fewer “modern” sites, and this new pandagon layout seems to be the latest casualty.  sigh.

when i pasted the URL into safari, it came up fine.

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Please, please, please change the red & brown stripes! I can’t read text on the brown and can’t see coloured headings on the red at all!

Not a fan of the new design at first glance - somehow, moving the junk from the right of the screen to the left makes everything feel more cluttered, and the color scheme has a distinctly “McDonald’s” feel to it.

I’m sure I’ll come to love it, though.

Oh, man, I don’t know what y’all did overnight, but the site is worse today on IE 6.0.  Not only are the articles pushed below the lowest items on the sidebars, but they are jammed on the left side, right over the dark red and brown sidebars, and have become completely unreadable!

Mr Gauche AKA Mr Ess:  I’ve got IE 7.0 at home, but at work, I’m stuck with what they’ve given me.  But there are plenty of comments above from other people using IE 6.0, so I can’t be the only one.
At any rate, since my previous comment, the main taxt is now to the right again, so someone made an adjustment.  Perhaps this is Pandagon’s beta version?

Like the new look.  Very clear and easy to read (and the pandas pic on the post is dangerously stressing my kawaiimeter).

Nice new look! One complaint: Since I don’t read all posters equally, I don’t like having to scroll to the bottom of a post to learn who wrote it.

Checkjed again with IE 6.0, and ieverything is situated properly now.

I think the site looks great! My only complaint is that who the post’s author is doesn’t show up through the rss feed.  Maybe they would if the names were at the top of the posts instead of the bottoms?

Read a few of the comments, but don’t have time to go through them all.  Apologies in advance if this has been brought up.

I frequenly use my Dash (a “just before the iPhone” phone) to read Pandagon, and I suspect it’s the brown and red columns on the left that are really screwing things up when I try to read it now.  I saw some suggestions to put the content between them, but I suspect putting the content on the left (well, physically on the left) and both bars on the right will correct the readability issues.

Also, no more autopreview?  Crap.

I come for the content, not the design, and I’m sorry to say the new format renders the content somewhat less readable to me—I guess because it puts the content to the right of the other stuff.

Red and brown: Do not want.

But that’s just one liberal’s experience.

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I prefer the minimalist look of the old blog. Also, the text pushed to the right is annoying. Why not go to the L column-text-R column format? I understand the 2 L columns if it increases ad revenue, but it is annoying.

Hmmm…  Mao red with poop brown.  I guess that’s appropriate.

Whatever you did in the last 24 hours, it made it even worse. Now the content starts way down the page, intead of at the top, and the illegible text overlaps not only with the brown strip (making all black text illegible) but also with the red stripe (making the links and headlines illegible).

I’ll keep checking back periodically to see if you’ve fixed the cross-browser issues. I’m bummed that I haven’t been able to read the blog for the past few days… :(

FWIW: I’m running IE 6.0.2900.2180

This is just a comment to get my info into the new site. Ok, I can’t leave it there: they have taken away the Queen’s beautician in Nepal!

Ah. I should have checked this earlier: the problem goes away if I turn off my content filter.

Since I assume many of your readers run Adblock for Firefox, Symantec ad-blocking, or similar, you should probably address this bug. It should be solved easily enough: just mandate a minimum width for the “Shilling” column, possibly by inserting a placeholder image or div tag or what have you.

Sorry for the multiple comments, but:

Now that I can see the site, I like it but for one detail: having the author’s names at the bottoms of posts is disorienting, as one has to read through the whole story before finding out who’s writing it. This is often fine, but often not, as the writer’s personal context often gets cited in the first few sentences and it often means something quite different depending on who’s writing.

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the stylesheet doesn’t work in Opera for some reason. :(

Woink, now it does. this is mystery beer indeed…

I’m using Google Reader to read Pandagon through RSS.  The paragraph breaks are better now than yesterday, but I still don’t see the author in the feed.  Also, the content cuts off at the more tag.  The feed used to contain the entire post, and I would love to have that back.  I doubt that I would click through to read each post in its entirety but I usually do when the post is in the feed.

Whatever this layout looks like in a normal browser, it looks and works great in elinks. So, congratulations.

Please, please put the content back in the middle between the two sidebars - the far right orientation is a total pain to use at my work and is only defensible as a way to drive more attention to ads.

Other than that, it looks ok.

Hey, the “title” tag isn’t being set correctly in your template. On individual page views, it ought to show up the name of the individual article as well as the site name. You’ll lose a lot of search engine pulling power if you don’t set that up.

I’m doing a bit of research into Expression Engine at the moment myself, and I think it’s a good choice for where you want to take the site.

I like the typography of the logo, but I think something more hand-illustrated would be better for the panda. Content area typography feels a bit undercooked though.

Like several others, I read the site through the feeds (often on my phone).  The current feed just has the front-page content; that is, not the whole article, which means seeing the whole thing requires you to click through, which is a pain.

It would be great to have a couple of feed options, including a full-text feed, the brief feed, and maybe comment feeds.

I’ve also just noticed the graphical labels on the sidebar content modules don’t have any kind of text equivalent, making them unusable for vision-impaired people with screen reader software.

They’re also don’t have quite the right background colour to blend into the column’s background colour.

Oh god oh god oh god font tags. Jeebus. Can I redesign your site for you?

I add my voice to the “not too pleased about the content being shoved to the right” chorus.
glad to know (according to Auguste) that it’s about to the middle.

*move to the middle* that is….

Just to clarify, for those who missed the earlier message, a new center-aligned design is, in fact, on its way.

I see that I have no need to comment here.
Like the color scheme, though.

Anyone have any ideas as to why the new site isn’t showing up at all for me in Firefox (v.1.0.7)? I’ve since checked and can access it via IE but in Firefox I don’t get ads or anything, just a plain background of that yellow-y type colour.  I sure don’t want to have to browse Pandagon in IE.

1.0.7 is a pretty old version of Firefox. I’d suggest upgrading for security reasons alone. But I’m not sure its renderer is bad enough to prevent the display of an entire page.

Thanks Nick.  Will give it a go when I have time.  Very frustrating to see the pages of Pandagon posts go up and knowing I’m getting so behind!

The new RSS feed is a pretty serious downgrade from the old site.
First off, the RSS feed doesn’t tell you who wrote which article.

Also, there’s the problem that the link that’s in the RSS feed doesn’t take you to the page with the full article and comments, but just to a page that has only the portion you just read.

Compare the new feed:
http://www.google.com/reader/view/#stream/feed/http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/rss_2.0/

to the old one:
http://www.google.com/reader/view/#stream/feed/http://pandagon.net/feed/

(Those links are to how it shows up in google reader)

While we’re on that, I really, really liked that the old pandagon feed had full articles in it.  (That feministe doesn’t is one of the reasons I don’t read them as much)  With many interesting things I would click through to the full thing to get the comments anyway, but I tend to read on the train without net access or in places where net access is ungodly slow.

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I’m hoping this thread is still being checked.  If not I may post this OT in another thread.

The upgrade of Firefox took care of not being able to see Pandagon (although it sucks in every other way, grumble grumble.  I’m liking the new design. 

One thing that’d make the new set up work much better for me would be to have the name of the person posting at the top rather than the bottom of the post.  I open multiple links at one time to catch up on Pandagon and I prefer to know who I’m reading when I start (at the mo’ I’m having to scroll to the bottom of the post then back to the top if I want to know the writer).  It was better previously with the name at the top, especially now that there’s another writer on board.

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I don’t know if this is still being checked, but I don’t want to hijack another thread. I don’t think I’m saying anything particularly new, this stuff is still very problematic for me.

I read Pandagon most through Google’s RSS reader. There’s still no author on the feed at all and that’s a big problem. It should be at the top both on the site and on the feed because it completely alters my perception of an article when I know who is writing.

Also I really want the feed to show the entire article. Right now you only see things above the cut and there’s no indication that cut is there at all (there’s no “read more…” or anything). If I click to go to the article I get taken to a page that is still cut and I have to click *again* to read the whole thing and I have to click *again* if I want to read to comments. This is bullshit. If I am interested enough to visit the page outside of the reader I want the whole thing *and* the comments without any additional clicks.

These usability issues are huge for me and I know for other people as well. Please fix them.

I agree with everyone who wants author information in the feed.

Also, I don’t know if anyone else had this problem, but the New Site post did not appear on my old feed, so it took me a long long time to notice the switch.  Probably at this point everyone’s figured it out anyway, but it might be possible that some people haven’t who have lots of stuff on their RSS reader and don’t notice much when one doesn’t post.

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