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Why isn’t my (love, commitment, and) marriage recognized in all 50 states?

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Most readers are well aware of the answer to this question—the Defense of Marriage Act.

Under the law, also known as DOMA, no state (or other political subdivision within the United States) needs to treat as a marriage a same-sex relationship considered a marriage in another state (DOMA, Section 2); the federal government defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman (DOMA, Section 3).

The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85–14 in the Senate[1] and a vote of 342–67 in the House of Representatives,[2] and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.

And as a result of this disgusting law, states began passing marriage amendments.

As of April 2009, 29 states have enacted constitutional amendments defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman, and another 13 states have statutory bans, including Maine, which approved a same-sex marriage law that was repealed by referendum in the United States general elections, 2009.[38]

Kate and I married on July 1, 2004 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. At that time it was the only place we could legally marry in North America. Today, our marriage is recognized in a few states—Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Washington, D.C.; the Coquille Indian Tribe in Oregon also grants same-sex marriage. New York, Rhode Island, and Maryland recognizes same-sex marriages, but they are not granted.

And then of course, you have the perversion of separate-allegedly-equal civil unions and domestic partnerships, which in theory gives couples (from the perspective of state government) equal legal recognition.

DOMA is clearly unconstitutional from a common sense perspective—there is no sane justification for the fact that when Kate and I get on a plane and fly to New York that we’re married, and when we return to North Carolina we’re not. My state fortunately has not passed a marriage amendment; it does have a state DOMA to ensure our union is not recognized.

Yet my state-issued drivers license is valid in all 50 states

. What’s the difference? It’s really that simple - we’re talking about the culture of marriage, the heterosupremacy, the church/state conflation of marriage. It does NOT help that in the White House sits a president who is a constitutional scholar bleating that “God is in the mix” and that marriage is between a man and a woman. I really don’t care about the political “safety” about this position at this date and time. It’s an absurd position that only underscore what we’ve seen occur over and over—the LGBT community is tossed overboard when it comes to civil rights. The stated positions of this administration always default to pandering toward the bigots, even when those positions fly in the face of common sense. It’s quite sad.

What’s enraging is the Obama administration’s attack on my marriage by using spurious excuses to defend DOMA through the Department of Justice. No one in the administration is willing to answer direct questions about DOMA (and DADT for that matter) related to their constitutionality. For instance, take a look at this exchange between The Advocate’s Kerry Eleveld and Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:

The Advocate: A growing number of people have started to call on the administration not to defend what the president refers to as the “so-called” Defense of Marriage Act – including Steve Hildebrand last week and the Human Rights Campaign, which is the largest LGBT community lobby and, quite frankly, it’s usually fairly favorable toward the administration, so it was a turnaround for them to call on the administration not to defend that law.

The president has called DOMA discriminatory. Does the president believe that a discriminatory law is constitutional?

Robert Gibbs: I don’t… the president hasn’t to the best of my… I have not heard the president intone what he believes the constitutionality of the law is. I know that he believes the law should be changed.

Legal decisions around next steps in that case, I believe, will be made at the Justice Department and I would point you over there to them.

Again, the president believes, in this case, and the president believes in the case of “don’t ask, don’t tell” that those are laws that he has believed for quite some time should be changed.

What kind of answer is that? Reading between the lines, the clear message here is that the administration intends to tap dance around a clear answer until it is forced to by the string of legal cases winding their way to SCOTUS. It’s an embarrassing strategy quite frankly, but as we’ve come to see, this is not an administration we can call a “fierce advocate” based on actions. It talks a good game, but when you have Steve Hildebrand and HRC calling 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue out, this administration is really running out of tap dance time. Hildebrand to Eleveld:

Is there anything you’re disappointed with that you’ve communicated to the administration?
I’m very perplexed on the administration’s continued defense of DOMA in the courts. The Justice Department is not required to defend laws passed by Congress—they have a history of doing it but it’s not a requirement. Their ultimate duty is to defend the Constitution of the United States and if Congress passes a law that is discriminatory and doesn’t pass muster of constitutionality, the Justice Department in my opinion should not defend those laws. In fact, they should find ways to make sure that those laws are stricken down by the courts.

I’d like to see the president and Attorney General Holder announce that they will no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act and to agree with the judge’s findings in the Massachusetts’ court case.

Meanwhile, as we are up in Maine doing a late celebration of our sixth anniversary, our marriage remains a tattered patchwork of civil rights and obligations in this country, and zero rights in our home state.

Our legislators are behind the times when it comes to cultural change on marriage. We live in North Carolina and have not experienced discrimination when introduced as a married couple. Most of the time we’re asked where we got married and whether it is legal—that is, of course, an ice breaker and opportunity to educate people about the fact that we may be married, civil unioned, domestic partners or strangers in the eyes of the law depending on what state we are in. People are usually perplexed, and even in a state with a good level of cultural conservatism, it’s hard to dismiss us as unworthy of rights when it’s a one-to-one conversation with a same-sex couple willing to speak about the issue.

What will it take for our “advocates” to grow a political spine? The religious bigots will be on the wrong side of history. We know this. The White House knows this. Congress knows this. The cultural change is bubbling up by more married same-sex couples who are out and willing to talk about their love, commitment, respect and desire for the same rights and responsibilities as any opposite-sex couple. Yet they have to also speak about their marriages being dismissed by the “most LGBT friendly administration ever” as less-than because of its own cowardice and political homophobia.

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 09:09 AM • (31) Comments

Pam, don’t diss the civil unions of hand.  It could be the solution to this whole issue, and I’ve heard it put forth by a number of people, even those usually considered far right.  I’m NOT talking about civil unions just for same sex couples, but instead, the government getting out of the marriage/sacrament/holy union business altogether.  It really has no right/business to be there.  In the scenario advocated, civil unions would be the LEGAL definition over which states have purview for ALL couples, hetero or same-sex - wishing to be recognized.  Marriage would be the optional religious union and could cover whoever it wanted according to those religious beliefs, but would have no legal bearing.

You seem to be against this in toto and I wonder why?

We’ve done this forever with other church legal distinctions - Many religions have rituals fro coming of age at 13, 14 ish, but try to buy a drink because one’s been bar mtizvahed or confirmed and the state will still arrest you if you are not 21.

Comment #1: phylosopher  on  08/02  at  09:50 AM

The 13th and 14th Amendments did not compromise or equivocate—they said bluntly and boldly that there would be NO slavery, and that ALL persons born within the United States were FULL citizens.  Laws and policies did not reflect the Constitution right away, but the basic statements were solid.

Of course, those amendments were written entirely by leftists, with the conservatives excluded by something more than just the abolition of the filibuster.  But I shudder to think how they would read if they were being written today.

Comment #2: Dr. Psycho  on  08/02  at  10:18 AM

Well for what it’s worth, I’m in NC and I recognize your marriage!

Comment #3: Creepy Doll  on  08/02  at  10:33 AM

In the scenario advocated, civil unions would be the LEGAL definition over which states have purview for ALL couples, hetero or same-sex - wishing to be recognized.

Really, that seems kind of pointless. Why not just adopt that legal recognition of partnerships and then call it “marriage”?

Comment #4: Tyro  on  08/02  at  10:42 AM

The 13th and 14th Amendments did not compromise or equivocate—they said bluntly and boldly that there would be NO slavery, and that ALL persons born within the United States were FULL citizens.

Were it so, Dr. Psycho:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.  [Emphasis added]

Frankly, the “leftists” who wrote the 13th amendment couldn’t even get the abolition of slavery correct.  Seriously, they actually wrote in a loophole to the abolition of slavery.

Comment #5: Richard Goblin  on  08/02  at  10:44 AM

It does NOT help that in the White House sits a president who is a constitutional scholar bleating that “God is in the mix” and that marriage is between a man and a woman.

At this point I just take the man at his word on this subject: he’s bigoted against gays - religious veneer or no.

Comment #6: Richard Goblin  on  08/02  at  10:45 AM

In the scenario advocated, civil unions would be the LEGAL definition over which states have purview for ALL couples, hetero or same-sex - wishing to be recognized.  Marriage would be the optional religious union and could cover whoever it wanted according to those religious beliefs, but would have no legal bearing.

I strongly disagree, Phylosopher.  We already have terms for this distinction when it comes to hetero couples: civil marriage and religious marriage.  In some jurisdictions we even have common law marriage which is based on the parties’ behavior without formal civil recognition or religious nonsense.

Part of the point of marriage equality is to prevent any sort of formally “separate but equal” (but really second class) status for LGBTs.

Comment #7: Richard Goblin  on  08/02  at  10:54 AM

Reading between the lines, the clear message here is that the administration intends to tap dance around a clear answer until it is forced to by the string of legal cases winding their way to SCOTUS. It’s an embarrassing strategy quite frankly, but as we’ve come to see, this is not an administration we can call a “fierce advocate” based on actions. It talks a good game, but when you have Steve Hildebrand and HRC calling 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue out, this administration is really running out of tap dance time.

Indeed.

I think the best strategy for all kinds of left-ish movements is to let the President know the tap-dancing tune is coming to an end, and to accelerate it. There should be marches (not just for GLBT causes) and other organized protests, phone-in campaigns, MoveOn-style action, and so on.

Just because liberal and left activists overwhelmingly supported Obama, it doesn’t make the bus-throwing acceptable.

Just because the other guy might have been worse, it doesn’t make the bus-throwing acceptable.

Comment #8: catfood  on  08/02  at  11:04 AM

phylosopher, while your idea is fine in theory, it sucks in practicality.  Personally, I’d like to see the government only recognize a family unit.  If you want to live with your grandma, that’s a family.  If you want to live with a sibling, that’s a family. The government shouldn’t be in the business of deciding what a “family” is.

But that’s an ideal.  We need to deal with practicality, and that’s where civil unions break down.

Too many state/local laws are written using the term “marriage” and that fact screws with civil union laws.  Even when the civil union law expressly avers that civil unions are the same, people have their rights denied to them b/c it’s not a “marriage”.

It’s why DOMA is so bigoted and damaging.  Civil unions CANNOT be equated with marriage, which means they MUST be less than.

And it’s not like you can protect your rights in other ways.  Even spouses with legal health directives can be denied access if that spouse is of the same sex.  Legally, it should be wrong, but it happens b/c in a moment of crisis you can’t get an immediate judgment and the bigotry inherent in DOMA gives a shield to small moments of bigotry everywhere, legal or not.

DOMA and DADT need to go.  All Americans need to be recognized as human beings deserving of civil rights simply for the fact that they are HUMAN BEINGS.

As long as some of us are more special than others, gross acts of bigotry will happen.

Comment #9: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  08/02  at  11:30 AM

You know, this is one of the stupider “issues” of my lifetime.  It’s such a simple, easy to understand equal rights matter, but naturally the religious whackjobs have to screw up as much of the world as they can with their caveperson view of the world.  Why they can’t just leave the gay people alone I will never understand.

You’re an adult capable of forming consent?  You want to make a legal commitment to another adult capable of forming consent?  That other adult wants to do the same with you?  That should be the end of it.

As for someone’s god or goddess not liking it, that’s fine.  Let that person’s god or goddess take care of it.

Comment #10: DBK  on  08/02  at  11:34 AM

“Why they can’t just leave the gay people alone I will never understand.”

Because for some having a minority available they can use to further their agenda is far too powerful to not use. 

As I recall, DBK, you’re Jewish.  The Jews, as you well know, have performed that function for whoever was in power (political and/or religious) in Europe countless times.

In years past we had immigrants (especially Irish and Italian), the threat of Communism after the Russian Revolution, drinkers of alcohol and tokers of marijuana, the Cold War, the uppity Negroes and their Civil Rights Movement.  And Jews have been a suspect class all along.

In an era where some of the traditional scapegoats are no longer as useful (given the number of Jewish NeoCons in good standing, for example) as they once were, new ones have to be invented.  Hence the current obsession with (Hispanic) immigration, the Reichwing’s renewed obsession with “liberals” and “socialism” (with “Fascism” added in the mix too, thanks to that idiot J0nah G0ldberg), etc.  To these has been added a fixation on LGBT people, with a corresponding inflation of their influence and their role in American life to make them seem like a more existential threat. 

It’s bad for the LGBT people who suffer because of it, but it’s great for the homophobes and others who can use this “grave threat” to keep the sheep sending in money, giving them events to organize around (like Prop 8 in California), and voting for the “right” politicians. 

Sad…

Comment #11: MikeEss  on  08/02  at  12:15 PM

Great post. One point I wanted to expand on:

“DOMA is clearly unconstitutional from a common sense perspective”

Sadly, common sense has little to do with Constitutional law. The Constitutional case against DOMA rests on three arguments:

1) The fourteenth amendment due process and equal protection clauses. This argument is the closest to what’s wrong with DOMA morally, the law does not apply equally to all Americans. The Supreme Court has not historically recognized sexuality as a strongly protected category under the equal protection clause (unlike race, sex is somewhere in the middle) so to make this argument the burden tends to be on us to show the law is harmful and completely arbitrary discrimination. A win on equal protection probably means the Court reconsidering the level of protection required for sexuality, which probably means it isn’t going to happen with this Supreme Court. If this did happen, however, it would be the strongest victory because it would likely force States to abandon their own marriage restrictions.

2) The tenth amendment. The argument here is that DOMA is Unconstitutional because marriage is not an area assigned to the federal government by the Constitution, which means it belongs to the States. This is the argument which was most effective in the most recent Massachusetts court case. Frankly, it’s likely to be the most successful argument in Court because relatively conservative justices who might be uncomfortable with equal marriage still love them some tenth amendment.

The problem with the State’s rights challenge to DOMA is that it probably also applies to the hopefully-not-too-distant time when we want to say equal marriage is a national right which all States must grant. So getting rid of DOMA on 10th Amendment grounds is great now while a minority of States offer equal marriage, but may haunt us once the demographics flip and there’s a minority of States holding out on allowing equal marriage rights.

3) The full faith and credit clause. This is the point you made about your driver’s license. States are required by the Constitution to recognize contracts signed in other States. So far, this argument has only been applied to same-sex adoption, but if DOMA ends up before the Supreme Court this may well be the best way to kill it practically. It’s more likely but not as good as an equal protection win, but it doesn’t cause the same potential problems down the road as a 10th amendment win.

Comment #12: camipco  on  08/02  at  01:24 PM

So what’s the feelings about Washington State’s “Enerything but Marriage” act?

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2009/04/washington-gets-everything-but-marriage.html

On the surface it seems to actually be equal, but obviously since it’s seperate it doesn’t seem like it can be rights-wise.

Comment #13: cynickal  on  08/02  at  01:27 PM

Pam, if it’s any consolation my mother’s parents marriage is currently unrecognized in more than half the states, and they could be criminally prosecuted in five of them, including Texas: they are first cousins.

Comment #14: Hector B.  on  08/02  at  01:28 PM

Pam, you’re wrong on your conclusions here.

If the President just said, ‘I think it is unconstitutional, we are not going to enforce the law.’ that would open up the floodgates for basically legalizing what the Bush administration was doing:  Signing statements and selective enforcement of law.

Of course it’s unfair.  Yes, it may be unconstitutional.  But the President isn’t in the branch of the government which is supposed to be making that decision.

Comment #15: Crissa  on  08/02  at  02:11 PM

Frankly, the “leftists” who wrote the 13th amendment couldn’t even get the abolition of slavery correct.  Seriously, they actually wrote in a loophole to the abolition of slavery.

Because we should just cut off body parts or execute criminals?  It isn’t a loophole so much as a legal justification for incarceration which is still viewed as the most humane way to handle criminal acts.  I would like to point out ideally we can let most non-violent offenders out but without that 13th amendment “loophole” men like Gacy & Dahmer would have had to be put into a public halfway house or some other sort or simply executed. 


To be on topic with DOMA: It isn’t constitutional.  The constitution states any right or privilege in one state shall not be abridged in another as compico already pointed out and is absolutely sound.  The pursuit of happiness clause is questionable in this case and the tenth amendment gets involved in to much crazy shenanigans to be worthwhile.  DOMA flies directly in the face of that and for what little value that it prohibits 5-10% of society from getting benefits.  I thought it was interesting that the biggest corporate backers of the act were the insurance companies.  Disgusting blood suckers. 

Course the proponents of the law are doing what they think is right and while the numbers are dwindling there is still sizable opposition.  The point now is to just dismantle the thing but in a strong anti-doing the right thing because I am angry mood that is sweeping this country the goodwill the democrats had has run out and sadly DOMA is going to bring bad blood.  This is best for right after the election is won and the democrats still hold the house.

Comment #16: Xeranar  on  08/02  at  03:02 PM

“To be on topic with DOMA: It isn’t constitutional.”

It shouldn’t be constitutional, but I have zero faith the current SCOTUS would agree.  I’m sure if it were really sent to the Supremes, the hardass wingnuts on the court would find some bogus reason to allow it — in a non-judicially-activist way of course…

Comment #17: MikeEss  on  08/02  at  03:19 PM

Maryland shouldn’t be included as recognizing same-sex unions from other states.  We’ve had one opinion of the attorney general advising state agencies to recognize same-sex unions from other states for purposes of benefits, etc.  But that advice is based on a prediction of what Maryland courts would decide (and, unfortunately, a prediction I do not believe to be accurate given the “reasoning” by the majority of the Court of Appeals in Conaway v. Deane).  And that opinion isn’t binding precedent nor does it have any application to private parties.

Comment #18: Bruce  on  08/02  at  03:46 PM

What we have to remember is that the President has publicly regressed on this issue, because he actually backed marriage equality back in 1996, when he answered a survey by the Windy City Times.

http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=20230

So his reversal is an exercise in political homophobia, plain and simple.

Comment #19: Pam Spaulding  on  08/02  at  05:26 PM

Lots of “just married” signs on NY license plated cars around here ... but that’s Provincetown for ya.  At least one state recognizes something from another state!

Comment #20: Ms Kate  on  08/02  at  06:02 PM

Such gorgeous pictures, Pam. This marriage shit is a fucken disgrace.

Comment #21: PhysioProf  on  08/02  at  07:03 PM

It could be the solution to this whole issue, and I’ve heard it put forth by a number of people, even those usually considered far right.  I’m NOT talking about civil unions just for same sex couples, but instead, the government getting out of the marriage/sacrament/holy union business altogether.

The reason you’ve heard this put forth by far-right people is that it’s not a real solution. It’s a deliberate diversion.

First, it ignores the question: why shouldn’t we allow same-sex couples to have civil marriages? Uh, um, quick, let’s talk about something else!

Second, because it’s a lie. Hey, instead of fighting for marriage, you should instead fulfill those stereotypes about Gays Want To Destroy Marriage!!!11, and still not get what you want, because most people do not want government out of the marriage business at all. Most people do not want to simply marry in the eyes of their faith and eschew government blessing of their unions. Most people do not want to have to pay a lawyer to fill out pages of tedious forms to get the same thing “I do” and a marriage license gets them now. Most people do not want to have to worry about whether their union will be recognized if they move to another city or state.

In other words, it tells LGBTs that they don’t get rights, they just get to try and drag everyone else to the second-class status that’s all they deserve. Nice try. Not buying.

Comment #22: mythago  on  08/03  at  12:14 AM

Because, Tyro, there are also a lot of atheists who would much prefer civil unions (legal contracts) over what we have now which is a weird mix of religious and civil.  It is also pragmatic in that indeed, it simply steps around the far right weird freak out over the word marriage.  Let them have the word and the associated spiritual mumbo -jumo, let’s have an adult solution to the real point, recognition of two consenting adults who wan tto set up a household and possibly a family together.

ANd mythago, you are really missing the point - one, most people don’t even think about the gov’ts role in marriage.  Except for the marriage license, which they see as a bother,  the marriage which they equate with the wedding happens in a religious setting.  Yes, there are still people who think that if a wedding isn’t done by a clerical type it isn’t a REAL marriage.

And think about it - when the make all the seats on the bus econo class - then yeah, there is no first class and EVERYONE gets to be equals.

Comment #23: phylosopher  on  08/03  at  09:35 AM

Richard, in the eyes of the law, if one has a license, then one is married, whether it by via jp or priest/rabbi, etc.  If civil unions were the law, then only the one performed by the state’s rep would be valid, and religious marriage would be the same as that recognition of coming to adulthood - recognized in the religious congregation but meaning diddly-squat should the kid get caught with a beer.

Comment #24: phylosopher  on  08/03  at  09:39 AM

Caren, I think it’s something to work towards, though.  Yes, those crisis moments happen.  They did with ADA, they did with Roe, they do with civil rights, but after a few hospitals, hotels, landlords etc. get their pants sued off, it stops happening, happens without any official support or happens very, very rarely, comparatively.

Comment #25: phylosopher  on  08/03  at  09:44 AM

xeranar, at the time it was written and long after, criminals worked in chain gangs and on license plates and still must do things like cleaning/cooking in some jails and even the relatively benign community service - without the loophole all that would be prohibited.. it seems.

Comment #26: phylosopher  on  08/03  at  09:50 AM

The stated positions of this administration always default to pandering toward the bigots, even when those positions fly in the face of common sense. It’s quite sad.
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