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Writing for AOL’s Lemondrop

This is an experiment for writing for a different sort of audience, since Lemondrop is a more general women’s interest blog.  My first post is about abstinence-only education losing its funding, and what could replace it.  I’m worried a lot of programs will look like the atrocious new blog Sex, Really, which I make fun of in this week’s podcast.

 

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Posted by Amanda Marcotte on 04:34 PM • (16) Comments

Good article but it took me awhile to get past the ugly babies.

Comment #1: Magis  on  07/16  at  04:59 PM

That second link is the same as the first, and doesn’t lead to the podcast.

Comment #2: KMac  on  07/16  at  05:36 PM

Well, here’s the sticking point.  You can only demand so much control over what the kids actually hear in the class, because a great deal of the curriculum is inevitably going to come from the teacher.  Sticking a relaxed unmarried 20-something teacher in the class will get you a more liberal education than having the course taught by an evangelical southern baptist who never really dated.

No matter what is in the actual course material, liberal teachers won’t shy away from talking about the kinkiest kinds of sex.  Conservative teachers won’t want to even mention the word “condom”.  Having seen both ends of the spectrum going through middle and high school, I find that the actual text book gives you maybe 10-20% of the course, another 20-30% going to the old informational videos, and the rest made up largely of the teacher’s personal experiences and anecdotes.

Abstinence Education policies were a problem largely because they tried to limit what the teacher was allowed to teach.  But, again, this was a federal mandate that did far less to influence what actually got taught than - say - a hyper protective school board or a bunch of free love hippies on the PTA.

Comment #3: Zifnab  on  07/16  at  05:46 PM

Your article was the best thing on that site.  Seriously, the side bar listed an article about tank top hording as news.

Comment #4: jackieg  on  07/16  at  05:48 PM

Zifnab, I’d just like to have been taught about birth control by a teacher who didn’t later impregnate a fifteen-year-old student. That was, one, gross, two, illegal, and three, a pretty bad testimony to his understanding of contraception.

He also liked to talk about how, sure, you can see genital warts, but by the time someone’s got their pants off it’s TOO LATE TO TURN BACK.  Thanks for informing a whole generation of students of your date-rapist tendencies, Coach!

Comment #5: purpleshoes  on  07/16  at  05:53 PM

Wow.  That sounds horrible.  I don’t have any horror stories nearly that bad.

Comment #6: Zifnab  on  07/16  at  05:59 PM

I feel like there may be a lesson to be learned there about how the power structure of a public high school doesn’t really make it a safe place to discuss sexuality on a personal level? I mean, if you’re legally required to submit to someone’s authority, and depending on your family situation you might have very little recourse if they abuse it, then it seems like the last thing they need to be doing is carrying on about people’s personal sexuality, yes? I can see grounds for keeping things clinical and emphasizing respecting people’s boundaries.

The present shame-based approach in my state isn’t what you’d call clinical either, of course. And it has no respect for the boundaries of people who decide to get it on. So. But seriously, is there actually a way to screen out health teachers who have no respect for women whatsoever? Do we just hope it’s a generational thing and they slowly die off?

Comment #7: purpleshoes  on  07/16  at  06:16 PM

Well, it may be the coach meant that once genital warts were visible, you’d probably passed the body fluids carrying the infection.

Comment #8: Crissa  on  07/16  at  06:25 PM

But seriously, is there actually a way to screen out health teachers who have no respect for women whatsoever?

Beggars can’t be choosers.

Comment #9: Zifnab  on  07/16  at  07:03 PM

Thanks, Ms Kate.

Zif, yes and no.  A lot of what the government funding goes to is programs, not schools, and they develop curricula that teachers and schools can use, or more commonly, come to the schools to do the programs. They also do community education outside of schools.  So while teacher discretion is an element, it’s not as all-consuming as you’d initially suppose.

Comment #10: Amanda Marcotte  on  07/16  at  07:23 PM

Sex ed in Alberta, Canada was a bit of a mess when I was growing up.

In grade 4, the rather prim teacher tried to take a stab at it, but I seem to remember it along the lines of “Can you think of some examples of change? Well your bodies are going to change too! That makes you grown ups! Whew, I’m glad that’s over with”. That’s about the point where the parents broke out the “Where did I come from?” book and scolded me on giggling over the pictures.

Grades 5-7 were sex segregated, with information ONLY about ourselves going through puberty, and the basics of reproduction, in the dryest, dullest, most clinical way possible. About this time I started reading “Are you there God? It’s me, Margaret.” by Judy Blume to learn about what was happening on the other side of the room.

Grade 8 FINALLY had something resembling a comprehensive sex-ed class, covering STDs, contraception and intercourse. About fucking time. I don’t think the topic came up again until the Government mandated “Career and Life Management” course in grade 11, which was finally pretty damn comprehensive.

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Personally, I think the best sex ed courses are comprehensive. Start with biology, acknowledge the pleasure potential and diversity, then end with the risks (disease, pregnancy, interpersonal, and societal) and risk management options.

Parents will always put their own moral stamp on whatever is taught, so I’m much less concerned about whether the course is sex-positive or pro-abstinance, as long as the factual information is given.

Comment #11: Left_Wing_Fox  on  07/16  at  09:36 PM

That was a good post for a lighter general-interest blog.  Generally when you can break something down into 2-5 categories that people can easily understand, that works well, and your taxonomy of sex education programs is nice. 

Are there still sex education programs that actively try to argue that condoms aren’t really worth using?  That’s what I had in high school in North Carolina.  If those are gone it’s a good thing for the world.

I hadn’t realized that David Obey came over to the side of justice and righteousness!  Happy day.

Comment #12: Neil the Ethical Werewolf  on  07/16  at  10:21 PM

Thanks for the post! Anyway, You heard of Lance Armstrong? A single mother raised Lance in Texas. He won the Iron Kids triathlon at the young age of 13 and became a professional triathlete at only 16. Often times, his long Saturday rides would take him over the Oklahoma border so that he had to call his mother to come pick him up. Before Lance even graduated from high school, he had a Rolodex filled with potential sponsors. He qualified to train with the U.S. Olympic developmental team his senior year in high school, and then qualified for the 1989 Junior World Championships the following summer. By 1991, Armstrong was the U.S. National Amateur Champion, and was well on his way to becoming the living legend that he is today.

Comment #13: OrangeO  on  07/17  at  08:19 AM

Are there still sex education programs that actively try to argue that condoms aren’t really worth using?  That’s what I had in high school in North Carolina.  If those are gone it’s a good thing for the world.

Did your’s have the teacher also saying that the only form of “contraception” needed was a contract women carried around that they would have any potential sexual partner sign agreeing to marry and/or pay for child support?

Comment #14: D  on  07/17  at  10:12 AM

You might want to look into/add to the advocacy of the OWL (Our WHole Lives) program.  It’s a joint venture between the UU’s and the UUC’s, and it’s a great program.  I’d link to something with more information, but there isn’t a whole lot on the net. http://www.uua.org/religiouseducation/curricula/ourwhole/

It’s a great program, and although I know it would never fly as done for public schools, it’s still worth putting up there as an example of a good sex ed program.

Comment #15: drachonfire  on  07/17  at  10:48 AM

Ha, no, D. 

We were all herded into the gym where a charismatic black guy dunked a basketball and then told us that condoms had a one in five failure rate.  He then drew the conclusion that sex with a condom would give you a one in five chance of getting AIDS.

Comment #16: Neil the Ethical Werewolf  on  07/17  at  03:31 PM
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