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WSJ op-ed: Prop 8 backlash shows need to change donor disclosure laws

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You knew this was coming—those who donated to help pass Proposition 8 are angry that boycotts and actions were taken to publicize their decision to foment bigotry. Now there is a call to make that information about their donations secret.

We have secret balloting for obvious reasons. Politics frequently generates hot tempers. People can put up yard signs or wear political buttons if they want. But not everyone feels comfortable making his or her positions public—many worry that their choice might offend or anger someone else. They fear losing their jobs or facing boycotts of their businesses.

And yet the mandatory public disclosure of financial donations to political campaigns in almost every state and at the federal level renders people’s fears and vulnerability all too real. Proposition 8—California’s recently passed constitutional amendment to outlaw gay marriage by ensuring that marriage in that state remains between a man and a woman—is a dramatic case in point. Its passage has generated retaliation against those who supported it, once their financial support was made public and put online.

This isn’t about killing free speech, mind you; it’s a matter of owning your political positions—you’re free to support whatever you wish—it’s just that no one has to approve of them or sit back and expect a cookie for working to revoke a civil right. Three examples are cited as on the receiving end of the backlash:

* Scott Eckern, director of the nonprofit California Musical Theater in Sacramento, had given $1,000 to Yes on 8, the theater was deluged with criticism from prominent artists. Mr. Eckern was forced to resign.

* Richard Raddon, the director of the L.A. Film Festival, donated $1,500 to Yes on 8. A threatened boycott and picketing of the next festival forced him to resign.

* Alan Stock, the chief executive of the Cinemark theater chain, gave $9,999. Cinemark is facing a boycott.

* A Palo Alto dentist lost patients as a result of his $1,000 donation.

* Marjorie Christoffersen, restaurant manager of El Coyote in L.A. gave a $100 personal donation, resigned after the news broke about her donation.

Besides, the pressure tactics were used by pro-Prop 8 forces as well:

At least one businessman who donated to “No on 8,” Jim Abbott of Abbott & Associates, a real estate firm in San Diego, received a letter from the Prop. 8 Executive Committee threatening to publish his company’s name if he didn’t also donate to the “Yes on 8” campaign.

More below the fold.
What is the motive for this call to revisit the disclosure laws? Try this on:

In each case, the law required disclosure of these individuals’ financial support for Prop. 8. Supposedly, the reason for requiring disclosure of campaign contributions is to allow voters to police politicians who might otherwise become beholden to financiers by letting voters know “who is behind the message.” But in a referendum vote such as Prop. 8, there are no office holders to be beholden to big donors.

...There is another problem with publicizing donations in political elections: It tends to entrench powerful politicians whom donors fear alienating. If business executives give money to a committee chairman’s opponent, they often fear retribution.

Other threats are more personal. For example, in 2004 Gigi Brienza contributed $500 to the John Edwards presidential campaign. An extremist animal rights group used that information to list Ms. Brienza’s home address (and similarly, that of dozens of co-workers) on a Web site, under the ominous heading, “Now you know where to find them.” Her “offense,” also revealed from the campaign finance records, was that she worked for a pharmaceutical company that tested its products on animals.

What say you, Blenders? The caveat here is that the op-ed is by John Lott, who isa senior research scientist at the University of Maryland, is the author of “Freedomnomics” (Regnery, 2007). Regnery is a right wing publishing house. Robert Cruickshank over at Calitics (and Public Policy Director of the Courage Campaign) discusses the motivations for this as well as the potential impact as there is a movement to roll back Prop 8 by ballot initiative in 2012.

This column could only be written in light of persistent media efforts to paint Yes on 8 donors as victims. By erasing the true victims - 18,000 same sex couples and the innumerable other couples who wished to follow them to full equality - folks like Steve Lopez have constructed a situation where the far right can use those supposed victims as a battering ram against campaign finance disclosure rules they’ve long opposed.

...This is not just a wingnut attempt to protect their wealthy allies. It’s an effort to lay the groundwork to undermine California’s disclosure laws in the event we return to the ballot to repeal Prop 8 in the near future. Without disclosure rules, it is highly likely that we will see much larger sums of money donated to the anti-gay cause.

Even before the post-election backlash unfolded, many wealthy donors and companies refrained from donating to the Yes on 8 campaign for fear of alienating customers and Californians. If these rules are relaxed then companies that rely on same sex marriage supporters for their profits could take that money, give it to the haters, without the public knowing or being able to take their business elsewhere. It could provide their side with a significant financial advantage over ours in a future ballot campaign.

 

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Posted by Pam Spaulding on 07:00 AM • (35) Comments

Perhaps people should stop donating against the interests of those who they depend on for their livelihood? Still, “to hell with your rights, keep supporting me anyway” is a pretty sucky position for anyone to have.

Comment #1: antimatterspork  on  12/29  at  06:26 PM

Only someone as steeped in conservative pretzel logic as Lott could simultaneously hold the views that “money=speech” and that donations should be kept secret. Freedom of speech means freedom from government censorship, not freedom from consequences, contrary to their whining that “it’s not fair for me to to suffer for my hateful beliefs!”

Comment #2: Redshift  on  12/29  at  06:31 PM

The disclosure law exists primarily to protect the people who join a political organisation from exploitation by that organisation and not the people outside it. If you don’t know who really funds the group whom you support you may find yourself manipulated e.g. someone joins an environmental group unaware that the big oil companies secretly fund it. Donor privacy can keep the members in the dark about the true purpose of the political group since the identity of the donors can reveal a lot about its agenda.

More broadly, if you’ve used your money to get public policy changed the public has the right to know. You want the public to change its behaviour in conformity with your preferences;  they should see who wants them to act differently. You shouldn’t intervene in the public sphere and then hide behind your right to privacy. If you want privacy, don’t get involved in pushing for the public to live their lives as you dictate.

Comment #3: Freedom Traveller  on  12/29  at  07:20 PM

Mixed emotions, but in general, I believe that all contributions to any political campaign or issue advocacy group should be public.  Transparency is the best policy.  Also believe the political contributions limit should be raised significantly to reflect current costs of a campaign.

Comment #4: tomonthebay  on  12/29  at  07:52 PM

If you are too stupid to figure out how to give money sideways you are too stupid for me to care about you.  Go call a waaaabulance.

Comment #5: Magis  on  12/29  at  08:03 PM

If you are a business owner and contribute to the discrimination of a group of people, expect those people to take action against you. That’s fair. That’s life. Deal.

Comment #6: Mark  on  12/29  at  08:17 PM

Years ago, George Will got in a snit because some anti-abortion referendum had lost somewhere. He wrote a column arguing that the secret ballot was wrong, and that voters should be willing to stand before their fellow citizens and proclaim their votes openly.

Tempis fugit. Now that an anti-gay referendum came out on top, the WSJ is arguing that not only should the votes be secret, but contributions should be secret. Secrecy is great as long as it serves their purposes.

Of course, what the WSJ is proposing would render useless one of the most potent tools for tracking and preventing corruption, but hey, what’s that next to making sure that contributors to conservative causes don’t feel the slightest discomfort?

Comment #7: Bitter Scribe  on  12/29  at  08:57 PM

If you pay money to destroy my rights, then prepare to see me take my money elsewhere if I find this out.  You have free speech: so do I, and part of the way I express that is with my feet and my money.

Comment #8: ginmar  on  12/29  at  08:58 PM

Will is an idiot when writing about anything but baseball, and sometimes I’m not too happy with his writings on baseball. 

As for the WSJ, they’ve been the mainstream voice of the Right for at least forty years, even if Time is now running a very close second.  *pfft*

Comment #9: Ellid  on  12/29  at  10:37 PM

Sources of money for referenda and candidates, as well as political organizations, should be transparent. Too bad if someone finds out that person X works for company Y. Actual in-person stalking is illegal. Privacy is sufficiently damaged to make it difficult for someone to be entirely untraceable - for those who have to be untraceable, for instance, those with credible threats against their life (some battered women; witnesses), new identities may be necessary. The pharmaceutical worker supposedly threatened by animal rights group needs to address this with local law enforcement. I say “supposedly threatened” because John Lott is a known intentional fabricator of data and of blogcommenting sockpuppets supporting Lott’s views.

Comment #10: NancyP  on  12/29  at  10:45 PM

Transparency is the best policy.

Dead on.  I look forward to Obama repealing Bush’s policies on FIFA and declassifying 41’s papers, as they should have been years ago.

One of the worst crimes Bush committed against this country was shrouding everything he and his cronies did in secrecy.

Let the sunlight in.

Be proud of your bigotry, you Yes on Prop H8 assholes.  You hate gays anyway, so why not speak it loud and proud?

Tolerance of intolerance is not tolerance.  Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you get to say something and have it remain unchallenged, as if pontificating on Fox.  Everyone gets the same freedom of speech, and anything you say can be challenged.

Comment #11: Caren  on  12/29  at  10:49 PM

Interesting.  As was noted, the “Yes on 8” people used it as a pressure tactic as well.  What happens if targetted retaliation using contribution disclosure becomes a standard tactic?

Comment #12: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  12/29  at  11:52 PM

I agree - and would add that I think you should be able to fire someone if you disagree with that person’s political activities or contributions.

Comment #13: Bobby Vafanculo  on  12/30  at  12:11 AM

Bush’s policies on FIFA

*snickers at mental image*

Comment #14: Rebecca  on  12/30  at  12:39 AM

As was noted, the “Yes on 8” people used it as a pressure tactic as well.

Actually, the “Yes on 8” people demanded matching contributions under threat of a boycott.  That’s actually extortion, not a political boycott.

What happens if targetted retaliation using contribution disclosure becomes a standard tactic?

*Shrug*  Boycotts have been a political tool for a long time.  Company A does something Group B doesn’t like, Group B boycotts.  I don’t see why this changes anything.

Comment #15: Seraph  on  12/30  at  01:38 AM

would add that I think you should be able to fire someone if you disagree with that person’s political activities or contributions

Because boycotting and protesting businesses that donated money to a political campaign that stripped American citizens of their rights is exactly the same as insisting that your employees vote and donate as you order them to on pain of losing their livelihood.  Of course.

Comment #16: Seraph  on  12/30  at  01:48 AM

*Shrug* Boycotts have been a political tool for a long time.  Company A does something Group B doesn’t like, Group B boycotts.

I didn’t say “boycott”.  I said “pressure tactic”.

For example, getting people who contributed to the wrong side fired by whatever means seem effective.

Comment #17: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  12/30  at  04:14 AM

Of course, what the WSJ is proposing would render useless one of the most potent tools for tracking and preventing corruption

That’s a feature, not a bug!

Comment #18: Big Bad Bald Bastard  on  12/30  at  06:35 AM

If you cannot justify your political position as soon as a bit of public scrutiny descends, you shouldn’t really be donating to the war chest of said political position, now should you?

Why is it that, when backed into a corner, opponents of public esteem and equality for gay people whine about how their private beliefs are at stake? They can believe privately that gay people are evil and deviant, but when they want to use those beliefs as bases for restricting gay people’s public rights, they have to defend and justify in public. What is so hard about that? Boo hoo if they can’t handle that.

Comment #19: Luke  on  12/30  at  08:00 AM

If you cannot justify your political position as soon as a bit of public scrutiny descends, you shouldn’t really be donating to the war chest of said political position, now should you?

The problem, Luke, is that it very much cuts both ways. 

Consider, for example, a targetted campaign to get anyone who contributed to a pro-gay cause fired from any position involving children because, as we all know, “fags are pedophiles”.

I don’t think I’m against public disclosure; I’m just concerned about the way it seems to be being used, even by the side I prefer.  Your public discourse is already toxic enough.

It’s a trend worth watching.

Comment #20: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  12/30  at  10:06 AM

Phoenician: Yes, public discourse is toxic, because it is riddled with vicious sound bites and fallacious reasoning for which people get free passes. Also, many people, especially religious ones, believe they can fall back on their personal beliefs without having to justify them.

The proper response to the assertion that “fags are pedophiles” is not to fall back on one’s own contrary belief, end of discussion, but to refute it. And the proper response to animus against gay people is to bring it to light, force explanations, and cut down every faux categorical argument gay rights opponents try to make and expose every fake principled argument as a reflection of animus.

I don’t see how it cuts any other way. I’m sure the fact that not everyone leaps onto kulturkampf bangwagons is some comfort to the victims of torture, USA warmongering, race discrimination, sexual orientation, and a host of other evils justified by refutable assertions that gain force with unexamined sound bites and reckless rhetoric. But it would be more helpful to force reasonable explanations and justifications, to stop the hate and fear at the outset.

Comment #21: Luke  on  12/30  at  10:16 AM

corr. *sexual orientation discrimination

Comment #22: Luke  on  12/30  at  10:17 AM

“Consider, for example, a targetted campaign to get anyone who contributed to a pro-gay cause fired from any position involving children because, as we all know, “fags are pedophiles”.”

The difference with the cited cases would be that all the people mentioned resigned rather than face a boycott. If someone wanted to fire me for being gay, or whatever, I’d make them fire my ass good and proper, and make as big a stink as possible. (Yes, I’m hearing the Ace Venturaness of that sentence, but I’m not changing. I like Ace Ventura, at least the first one)

Such a campaign would be a reprehensible action by reprehensible people, but I don’t think that the pro-gay human rights side abjuring pressure tactics is going to make the anti side do so.

Comment #23: witless chum  on  12/30  at  11:48 AM

I didn’t say “boycott”.  I said “pressure tactic”.

For example, getting people who contributed to the wrong side fired by whatever means seem effective.

Like witless chum said, no one in the cases cited was fired, they resigned (or merely lost business) because they were faced with boycotts.  So what “pressure tactics” are you talking about, if not boycotts?  Strongly-worded letters?

Besides, you’re assuming that the resignation of the people cited was the goal.  I would say that they made their donations as representatives of their organizations, which was why those organizations were threatened with protests and boycotts.  No one is going to be much appeased that once person resigned if that resignation doesn’t represent a change in policy for the organization - which was the actual goal.

Comment #24: Seraph  on  12/30  at  02:02 PM

Uh-huh.  It’s pointless commenting further; the only thing to do is watch what happens.  I’m tired of people assuming I’m a convenient strawman; try browbeating the real world if things turn out like this.

Comment #25: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  12/30  at  04:57 PM

try browbeating the real world if things turn out like this.

PIATOR, here’s what you don’t seem to understand: things are ALREADY “like this”.  Right-wingers already do what they can to get political enemies fired by whatever means.  You do remember what happened to Amanda and Melissa McEwan when Bill Donohue decided they were Catholic-haters, right? 

Actually, they weren’t so much “fired” as they had to resign because of the stalking and death-threats.  Which is something he’s still proud of. 

In contrast, the anti-H8ers protested and boycotted organizations that had been all-too-happy to take their money before, and then turned around and used that money to keep them in their place as second-class citizens.  Some resignations resulted, but that wasn’t the anti-H8er’s goal. 

Do you see the difference?

Fundies do legitimate boycotts (as opposed to issuing hit-orders) all the time, usually when some organization takes some “anti-family” action like advertising to gays or allowing domestic-partner benefits to gay couples.  Sometimes these boycotts work, sometimes not.  Do the successful boycotts cause some resignations or firings?  Probably, but that’s not their goal, which is to change some policy. 

This is a legitimate political tool, even if we find their cause repellant.  Why shouldn’t we use it?  Other than, you know, they don’t seem to think it’s fair when someone uses it on them.

Consider, for example, a targetted campaign to get anyone who contributed to a pro-gay cause fired from any position involving children because, as we all know, “fags are pedophiles”.

You are aware, aren’t you, that there are many places here in the States (though not California, I believe) where gays can be fired from any job, simply for being gay?  It’s something the bigots work very, very hard to maintain. 

The anti-H8 activists are doing nothing that even approaches what Right-wingers do as a matter of course in this country.  It’s just that oppressors are always shocked and outraged when the oppressed start to fight back in a way that’s actually effective.  It’s one of the surest signs you’re doing something right.

Comment #26: Seraph  on  12/30  at  09:49 PM

BTW, I have to ask: you’re from New Zealand, right?  Did you ever have a Civil Rights Movement there?  If so, who was involved, and what tactics did they use?  What tactics did their opponents use? 

Because as civil rights movements go here in the States, this one’s been pretty polite so far.  No gay-friendly churches have even been bombed yet.

Comment #27: Seraph  on  12/30  at  09:53 PM

As for treating you like a convenient straw man…well, you boast of your abrasiveness and glory in the title of “Asshole”.  Some of your positions are unpopular for very good reasons and in this case - as in others - you aren’t seeing the situation clearly from your position outside it. 

None of these things help you win friends and influence people.

Comment #28: Seraph  on  12/30  at  09:59 PM

You are aware, aren’t you, that there are many places here in the States (though not California, I believe) where gays can be fired from any job, simply for being gay?  It’s something the bigots work very, very hard to maintain.

Only 20 states provide employment protections based on sexual orientation. Thirteen of these also protect gender identity.

Comment #29: MAJeff, God of Biscuits  on  12/30  at  10:55 PM

Hey, WATB, you’re the one that made the donation to a cause to take away my rights. You paid for it, now you get to own it.  If you’re afraid to publicly admit that you support hate and discrimination, you probably should rethink your position.

Comment #30: Keori  on  12/31  at  01:31 AM

PIATOR, here’s what you don’t seem to understand: things are ALREADY “like this”.  Right-wingers already do what they can to get political enemies fired by whatever means.  You do remember what happened to Amanda and Melissa McEwan when Bill Donohue decided they were Catholic-haters, right?

Indeed.  And yet here we are, waxing gleeful as the same sort of thing happens to others because they are Bad people, and Bad People are always fair game.  Terrible when they do it to to Amanda and Melissa, but totally justifiable when it is done to them.

I defend no position; I have no position.  I am uneasy with the list of contributions being used as a political weapon - by anyone - but it’s your country, and no doubt the tit-for-tat politics aimed at persons rather than positions will offer as much amusement as the current special effects show in the Gaza, being that the dynamics seem much the same.

Me, I’m off to Civic Square to meet friends, listen to live music, glance at pretty girls, and welcome in the New Year.  Have fun, all.

Comment #31: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  12/31  at  06:07 AM

I do want to know who donated. I am under no obligation to spend my dollars in any particular business, and I definitely don’t want to use my money to support those who would harm me, be it the manager/part-owner of a single restaurant or a major movie theater chain. 

Where’s the problem?

Comment #32: MAJeff, God of Biscuits  on  12/31  at  08:39 AM

Indeed.  And yet here we are, waxing gleeful as the same sort of thing happens to others because they are Bad people, and Bad People are always fair game.  Terrible when they do it to to Amanda and Melissa, but totally justifiable when it is done to them.

You did read the part about the DEATH THREATS and the STALKING, you fucking moron?  What the hell is wrong with your head that you draw moral equivalence between boycotting BUSINESSES and targetting INDIVIDUALS? 

One more time: BUSINESSES and ORGANIZATIONS donated to Prop 8.  BUSINESSES and ORGANIZATIONS were boycotted as a result.  In some cases, the boycott was merely threatened, not actual.  Some people resigned as a result of these boycotts, or to avoid threatened ones.  This was not the protestors’ goal, specifically, and really means nothing if it doesn’t reflect a change in the organizations’ policies.

Do you see the difference?

I defend no position; I have no position.

Bull.  Shit.  You do this every time, PIATOR.  The more untenable your position is, the more determined you are to be right, and you continue past the point of absurdity and offensiveness.  That’s why everyone treats you as a “convenient strawman”. 

I am uneasy with the list of contributions being used as a political weapon - by anyone - but it’s your country, and no doubt the tit-for-tat politics aimed at persons rather than positions will offer as much amusement as the current special effects show in the Gaza, being that the dynamics seem much the same.

This?  Exhibit A.

You never answered my question: was there ever a Civil Rights Movement in New Zealand?  If so what tactics did they use?  Do you recommend that American homosexuals use the same tactics? 

That is to say, what tactics do you think they should use, as they continue to give their money to the businesses and organizations who helped keep them in their place as second-class citizens?

Comment #33: Seraph  on  12/31  at  02:37 PM

Me, I’m off to Civic Square to meet friends, listen to live music, glance at pretty girls, and welcome in the New Year.  Have fun, all.

Love the troll-flounce, by the way.  Didn’t you leave once already?

Comment #34: Seraph  on  12/31  at  02:37 PM

I am all for gay marriage, however, I do agree that using what people donated to as weapons against them is wrong. All I know is that if my Republican boss used it to harm me or if they boycotted were I worked and caused me to lose my job I would be mad.

Comment #35: Pat  on  01/04  at  07:39 PM
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