There really is nothing worthwhile about people who churn out nonsense like this.

The religious freedom argument they keep pushing is a fallacy the size of the Grand Canyon. There are churches which think gay marriage is AOK, for one. Secondly, recognising legal marriages doesn’t equate to forcing gay marriage on so and so’s church.

Irony: Putting a sniper rifle scope on a family with hetero parents while completely ignoring the stability offered by the gay parented family and trying to tear their legal rights to shreds.

Also, family: Not just about the kids. Gah. But even so, two responsible parents taking care of a child is a swell thing. (Why tout how stable and awesome marriage is and then try to deny it to other people?)

Honestly, I think their strategy is to fling so many fallacies around you can’t possibly counter them all without somebody pulling out another. It’s a nigh Sisyphean task, trying to talk with the willfully oblivious and the deliberately malicious.

Blind hatred and the hope for a tanking economy.  It’s all the GOP has left.

Pam, there’s really something funky about the paragraph that starts “Montini is a GOP….”
I’m not sure exactly what you meant to say there.

Apparantly one WHITE man & one WHITE woman and lots of WHITE babies = marriage and family to these whack-a-doos.

Unless you want to adopt an “underprivileged” child.

No, seriously, the one non-white kid…er…the only non-white person in the whole video…was in the “adoption” section.

No surprises, I suppose, but fake inclusionary images have become increasingly popular with church groups. “See? We’re not racist, we just hate queers and baby killers!” These people don’t even take a stab pretending to be inclusive. Scary.

This Montini guy is the most disgusting example of some very common mindsets here in GA, it seems.

I keep on being scolded that I need to help by supporting libs and moderates in reaching across the aisle to these Far right Whack-a-doodles. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ridley/the-republican-bipartisan_b_166902.html
Sorry: I am not interested in “BiPartisanship” with this sort of Pervert.
My rally:
“Get these fucking Fascists off my planet!!!”

Oh wow I almost missed the one non-white person in the video.

Father’s day isn’t observed by schools where I live (Texas) because we always got out before the end of May (usually around the 25th).

Wait, which group is it that is attacking the other’s marriage rights, again?  I really thought it was conservatives opposing gay marriage rather than gay people trying (much less succeeding) to oppose straight marriage.  Did I miss something?

Also, when’s the last time a gay person has killed a heterosexual—-or their children—-as a hate crime?  I can think of several times where gay people have been beaten or killed.  Do straight people have to hide their relationships in public for fear of harassment?

Cry me a river, you sanctimoniously sadistic and fucked-up sack of shit.

Brava, Kyra!

Interesting how the “scare image” of Teh Ghey used to be the fruitiest Carmen Miranda half-clothed transexual they could find.

Now it’s two well-dressed grooms sharing a moment of joy amongst supportive family and community, on the steps of a church where they commune in supportive circumstances.

Before:they will make your kid into a fruit!
After: they will be everywhere around you and nobody will care!

One would think that the biggest threat to heterosexual marriage and family in West Virginia is a very high divorce rate, which is well above the national average and absurdly higher than Massachusetts, where gay marriage is legal.

Wow. The projection never ends. Want to know what the loony right is doing? Just look at what they’re accusing the left of today.

People don’t have time for this shit anymore.  You think any one of the next half million plus people to get laid off over the next month is going to be up in arms over gay marriage?

Back in the day, the fundies were at least savy enough to focus on their charity work and their community outreach programs.  I just don’t see any of that today.  All that Bush-talk of faith-based groups never materialized.  There isn’t a church group passing out welfare checks on every street corner or a religiously inspired health care net.  It’s all gay-marriage this, abortions that.  Total irrelevancy inside five years if this keeps up.  My prediction is that this will all fall on deaf ears.  No one is going to give a fuck.

Apparantly one WHITE man & one WHITE woman and lots of WHITE babies = marriage and family to these whack-a-doos.

Note the claim early on in the video—marriage is the building block of culture, nation, race?

Yep, rea, I saw that. Pretty lacking in subtlty, eh?

Right on target, KMac. Look at what some of the racist hate groups are saying about the tanking economy; that desperation drives people to them and they are looking for ways to exploit it.

Not to pin a nefarious sub-plot to an already distressing exercise in misinformation and hate but some of the same intent could be at work here.

I find this even creepier since that wackjob went into the Unitarian church in Tennessee and started shooting up the place.  Projection, anyone?  I guess that, as usual, the fear is that the people you hate will do the same thing to you that you keep doing to them.

Fascists will always pick a marginalized group and scapegoat them for whatever calamity the rich bastard class has inflicted on the rest of us.  But gays?  People aren’t going to buy that our economy has been ruined by some dudes having buttsex.  We already know that the current meltdown was caused by Jimmy Carter and the CRA.

Seriously, though it’s hard to predict how people will react when their world is turned upside down, like if they find themselves and their families living in corrugated aluminum shacks, I’m willing to bet a few soon-to-be-worthless American dollars that the anger will be focused upward, not downward.  It won’t just be Redstate-reading rednecks in the Bushvilles.

ARGH I am SO sick of hearing that ‘marriage between one man and one woman is a part of every culture, race and nation.’ This is NOT TRUE. I’m taking anthropology at the moment, and in some cultures women can marry women, in some, men and women live separately and come together only to copulate, still others have polygamy etc. etc. etc.

Yep, rea, I saw that. Pretty lacking in subtlty, eh?

Right on target, KMac. Look at what some of the racist hate groups are saying about the tanking economy; that desperation drives people to them and they are looking for ways to exploit it.

HooksInMyHead

There’s an alternative explanation, though. What if this group is not really interested in speaking to the mushy middle. What if actually, the ‘race’ thing is subtle because it’s a subtle call to the far right, their real target?

Don’t let the people who made that video get you down.  They speak for fewer and fewer people every year.  They’re dinosaurs,  their time is the bad old days.  They are dying.

They’re dinosaurs, their time is the bad old days.  They are dying.

The last T-rex on the planet can still bite you in half.  They are dangerous until they are nothing but a memory.

Can we please get rid of these people as public entities, somehow?  Some way that’s not violent, not illegal, just something that will keep people from taking them seriously at all?

Honestly, I think their strategy is to fling so many fallacies around you can’t possibly counter them all without somebody pulling out another.

It is. It’s an old favorite tactic of creationists in particular…

OT, but it sounds like this woman may have done us all a major favor when she killed her abusive spouse, who was collecting parts to build a dirty bomb.  Hopefully she won’t have to do too much time.

Marriage began in the heart of god, and he designed it perfectly, for one man and one woman

governments have recognized and uniquely protected marriage for more than 2000 years

I seriously could not fucking finish this video. I could barely get to the gay sniper.

FACTS ARE REAL THINGS. YOU DON’T JUST GET TO MAKE THEM UP. PROTECTIONS FOR MARRIAGE ARE A POST-ENLIGHTENMENT DEAL, ONLY VIABLE WITH DEMOCRACY AND RULE OF LAW. IF GODS MARRIAGE WAS SO PERFECT, WE SHOULD ALL HAVE A BUNCH OF WIVES LIKE ABRAHAM. YOU FUCKER.

It isn’t just that they’re wrong, morally and factually. It’s how fucking PROUD they are of that ignorance. and that no matter how hard you refute them, they just repeat it.

It’s like arguing with a parrot.

These people are so fucking stupid that they haven’t noticed that much of their Wholly Babble deals with goddamned polygamous marriages.

I just can’t get past the still, with the image of the soldier X’ed and the marriage green-lighted, as it were.

So, Teh Ghey Agenda is to end war, and bring people into loving, happy, stable relationships. And this is supposed to be a bad thing?
The wing-nuts are sick, sick people who believe the deaths of at least a hundred thousand people is a good thing, but love is bad.
Please, FSM, let their stupid backfire on them. rAmen.

Samantha: That’s not a still.

One thing I noticed in the video: the scope site is not aimed at anyone—it’s just a warning shot!

Well, the shot might part the older daughter’s hair…

Actually, this is smarter than we’d like to think. Consider all those laid off people. They’re angry, but what are they’re angry at? The Banks, the tanking economy, the Republican Congress… but those are abtract, far away things, mostly, that they can’t put your hands on. ‘But look over there… it’s the gays! You hate them too, right?

Isn’t this pretty much where the Holocaust started?

It’s like arguing with a parrot.

This would be a great T-shirt slogan!

I couldn’t finish it either, but I did get to the point where teachers are supposedly using the term “parent” instead of “mother” or “father” because, apparently, we have a ton of gay parents.  In actuality, we’ve been using the term “parent or guardian” for longer than the 9 years I’ve been teaching.  This isn’t explicitly due to gay parents, but because we have many students who don’t fit the “traditional family” model.  We have many kids who live with step-parents who aren’t comfortable being called mother or father, children living in foster homes, living with an older brother or sister, or living with grandma and/or grandpa and, of course, children whose parents are LBGT.

The whole video, as many here have pointed out, is deliberately misleading.

It should be noted that gay marriage is already illegal in West Virginia, though not by constitutional amendment.  State law also explicitly prohibits recognition of same sex marriages from other states.  Of course, they would argue that they need a constitutional amendment to avoid any law suits challenging state law, but no such suits have ever been filed in WV.