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Yet More Dijon

So, apparently, the point of obsessively focusing on Obama’s mustard choice wasn’t that he wanted dijon mustard.  It’s that he wanted dijon mustard and it wasn’t the lead story on every news channel in existence, which is a totally different thing.  Conservatives are totally accepting of his mustard choice, they’re just not accepting of the fact that his mustard choice wasn’t used to destroy and discredit every fiber of his being.  It’s like “hate the sin, love the sinner”, except with more condiments and less sense.

Apparently, and this is funny, buying a seven dollar lunch is now also a hallmark of elitism*, because no working person in the entire United States of America spends more than the cost of a McDonald’s value meal on lunch.  As most McDonald’s value meals run in the $5-6 range, the extra dollar that Obama spent was basically a slap in the face to every working Joe in the entire country. 

You see, this becomes the problem when conservatives complain about the elite habits of Democrats - it requires them to assume that the rest of America does stupid, shitty, terrible things that few people actually do, or would actually do, because no real person thinks in these terms.  Democrats are only elite as compared to made-up people; it’s would be like calling Dick Cheney a callous monster not because he’s the man who haunts the dreams of children, threatening to take them from their parents and shackle them in a Dickensian factory making widgets for gruel, but calling him such a thing because he’s not a Care Bear. 

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*Other Real American Traditions: supposing you accidentally break the $6 price point for lunch, most real Americans will offset the cost of the meal the next day, spending less until they come back in line with the salt of the earth values that made this country great.  Should they spend so much that they go over the limit for an entire day (for instance, sitting down at expensive French bistro Applebee’s - and tipping), subsequent days are spent eating grass, dirt and various forms of cardboard until due penance is made.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 08:29 AM • (74) Comments

<i>eating grass, dirt and various forms of cardboard until due penance is made. <i>

Isn’t that the typical Applebee’s fare?  Guess I’m an elitist.

Comment #1: Ol_Froth  on  05/11  at  08:57 AM

Ba-zing! 

And the answer, Ol_Froth, is yes.

Comment #2: Jesse Taylor  on  05/11  at  09:04 AM

So MSNBC didn’t think it was newsworthy to analyze famous people’s food choices?  And they still call themselves a news station?  How dare they cover things like murder and corruption when there’s something as important as a condiment choice to report on?  That first link has to be a joke.  I can’t believe anyone would write that seriously.

Comment #3: bananacat  on  05/11  at  09:05 AM

It’s that he wanted dijon mustard and it wasn’t the lead story on every news channel in existence, which is a totally different thing.

Ah, well, that’s different. After all, these are slow news days, and there’s really nothing of comparable importance going on in the U.S. And these lunch outings are the activities of the President, for goodness sake! Damned librul media, giving Obama a pass on his fancy, French-influenced burger.

Seriously, it’s kind of heartening that this is the best the wingnuts can do. Even I can think of substantive policy positions to criticise Obama for, but of course those are things that these conservative morons approve of (and they’d express that approval, they really would, if not for that whole African-American Democrat thing).

Comment #4: Gracchus.  on  05/11  at  09:08 AM

but rather that MSNBC and other major media are no longer in the news business. They’re doing public relations for the Obama administration and the Democratic Party. . . . Obviously, reporters didn’t think ‘Dijon mustard’ fit the narrative the White House wanted, and so they fudged the quote — and NBC even edited its own video — to omit the offensive French phrase.

What?

Seriously.  What the fuck does this mean?  Public relations involves not mentioning the particular type of mustard because that is an integral part of this scintillating news story?  Is he saying this with a straight face? 

This guy is why our news is crap.  They actually think this shit is important in some way.

Comment #5: speedbudget  on  05/11  at  09:14 AM

You see, this becomes the problem when conservatives complain about the elite habits of Democrats - it requires them to assume that the rest of America does stupid, shitty, terrible things that few people actually do, or would actually do, because no real person thinks in these terms.

Hey, now, McDonald’s isn’t THAT bad. Whenever I hit Micky D’s at 6 am, I’m reminded that I shouldn’t be ranting about having an actual 630 am office job with an actual computer so I can get on the Internet and . . . do things like this.

Comment #6: Midland  on  05/11  at  09:20 AM

Midland - it’s not that going to McDonald’s is the stupid, shitty, terrible thing.  It’s this idea that one must always get a fast food value meal, or else you’re eating the market fish of the day with braised greens for $26 and tip.  “Real” Americans are apparently so conscious of seeming elitist that they artificially constrict themselves to food options that no actual person would. 

I’ve had several low-paying office jobs, and was known to eat at place with actual silverware wrapped up in napkins - sometimes even twice per week!

Comment #7: Jesse Taylor  on  05/11  at  09:26 AM

When Obama spoke about “Change”, this is actually what he was referring to—changing our habit of blowing up every little semi-meaningless into a DEFCON-2 level kerfluffle that would dominate the news cycle and waste all of our time.

And things are changing. And it’s driving the wingnuts crazy.

Comment #8: Tyro  on  05/11  at  09:33 AM

Before the year is out, these fuckwits will be whining that Obama wipes his ass with elitist Charmin, rather than old copies of The Globe.  Then, when called out for being idiots, they’ll say that their real point was that the media failed to report that Obama could at least just buy the scratchy generic stuff.

Then they’ll complain that Obama wears a hoity-toity belt, rather than a length of twine.  Then they’ll say something even dumber.  Repeat for another seven and a half years.

Comment #9: Jrod  on  05/11  at  09:39 AM

”...it’s would be like calling Dick Cheney a callous monster not because he’s the man who haunts the dreams of children, threatening to take them from their parents and shackle them in a Dickensian factory making widgets for gruel, but calling him such a thing because he’s not a Care Bear.”

Thanks, Jesse.  Now I’m going to have nightmares about the BoogieCheney tonight…

“I’ve had several low-paying office jobs, and was known to eat at place with actual silverware wrapped up in napkins - sometimes even twice per week!”

Elitist bastard!  I bet you eat that fancy French mustard too, just like Obama…

(BTW, Google Chrome spell check?  Still no “Obama”...  :(    )

Comment #10: MikeEss  on  05/11  at  09:44 AM

Stacy McCain explains that it’s not about the mustard:

Exposure of the media role in the Obama phenomenon is what the Left fears most because, at some level, they understand that if the press were ever to report honestly on what the Democrats are doing, the game would change. So the Obama cultists, accustomed to only fawning coverage of their Leader, react with fury when the fawning coverage is demonstrated to be dishonest.

Yes, if it wasn’t for the press refusing to tell us the truth about Obama, like his taste for food that wasn’t made in a Frito-Lay factory or cooked in a microwave, John McCain would be President!

Obama’s high level of public support is largely a product of his positive image the media have crafted. “DijonGate” exposed how this image-making role is played. And therefore William Jacobson is denounced as a “wing-nut” pushing “right-wing talking points.”

Obama is popular because the media something something, and not because Americans appreciate having a Commander-in-Chief who doesn’t require his daily briefings to come in the form of a coloring book and is capable of stringing words together into coherent sentences that communicate coherent ideas.  Jacobson dared to point out this awful truth, therefore the Huffpost-Axelrod collective had no choice but to assassinate his character.

No, seriously:

Of course, there are no “left-wing talking points,” and if you dare suggest that Media Matters and Huffington Post are participating in an orchestrated propaganda effort—perhaps organized by Astroturf king David Axelrod—this only proves you are a “wing nut.”

You know what proves you’re a wingnut?  When you actually give have a shit about what mustard the President uses, or you think people should care about what mustard the President uses, or you cry like a spoiled child when people don’t ooh and aah over how clever you are when you talk about the President’s motherfucking mustard.

Comment #11: Jrod  on  05/11  at  09:54 AM

Give half a shit.  Though now that I think about it, that literally does not make more sense than what I originally typoed.  Cussin’ is funny business.

Comment #12: Jrod  on  05/11  at  09:56 AM

I hereby announce that I am a conservative, a registered Republican, as reichwing as Mike Ess could ever want, but yes, I use Dijon mustard.  Unlike our 44th President, I do not use it on hamburgers; I am more likely to use it on a cold cuts sandwich, or—and I am sure this will shock you—on French fries.

Furthermore, I do not use catsup, and I am still a reichwinger!

Comment #13: Dana  on  05/11  at  09:56 AM

McDonalds for anything but breakfast was an unimaginable luxury when I was broke (OK, luxury in the cost sense—not luxury in the “boy, I really feel like I’m getting my money’s worth in terms of taste and nutrition” sense). $5-6 for a “value meal?” If I went to a restaurant of any sort of asian extraction, their lunch special was often a) more food, b) cheaper, and c) waaaayyyyyy tastier (and usually healthier).

Really the thing about this whole tempest-in-a-frybox thing that’s fascinated me is the appropriation and dictation of American “values” vis-a-vis particular brand/corporate loyalty. French’s mustard? American (even though 5 years ago, it would have been persona non grata because of its name). Grey Poupon, made by Kraft Foods of (last time I checked) America? NOT AMERICAN. A multinational corporation that assimilates into every culture it enters almost as much as they assimilate to it (Lamb McSpicy’s in India and England, a McBean in Turkey), totally American. A restaurant/small business catering to the local clientelle in an attempt to carve out a bit of the pie for themselves? un-American elitism.

It’s not like I’m surprised, I wasn’t born yesterday and I know that Republican values and the concept of patriotic duty is fluid and self-serving, but I’m just surprised that they aren’t getting the everliving shit pummelled out of them for being so dismissive (simultaneously) of both the small, struggling business, and the multi-billion dollar food conglomerate.

Comment #14: Mighty Ponygirl  on  05/11  at  09:58 AM

Only effete elitist Frenchmen use “catsup”.  Real patriotic Americans use ketchup, dhimmi.

Comment #15: Jrod  on  05/11  at  10:05 AM

The irony is, Applebee’s is more expensive.  Their cheese burger is $7.49.  The real issue is their bug-fuck craziness and paranoia.

Comment #16: MosesZD  on  05/11  at  10:09 AM

I hereby announce that I am a conservative, a registered Republican, as reichwing as Mike Ess could ever want, but yes, I use Dijon mustard.

I’d be very suspicious of your patriotism, Dana, except for the fact that you’ve established your wingnut bona fides in other ways. Keep in mind that neoCons and the GOP establishment have to be a little more circumspect than you in their homobigotry and anti-feminism, so they’re stuck trying to push nonsense issues like this instead.

Comment #17: Gracchus.  on  05/11  at  10:14 AM

Unlike our 44th President, I do not use it on hamburgers; I am more likely to use it on a cold cuts sandwich, or—and I am sure this will shock you—on French fries.

I’d never even thought of French fries and dijon…and will try it as soon as I get a chance!

Comment #18: Jesse Taylor  on  05/11  at  10:27 AM

If I went to a restaurant of any sort of asian extraction, their lunch special was often a) more food, b) cheaper, and c) waaaayyyyyy tastier (and usually healthier).

Sure, sure, but then you’re removing money from our economy and giving it to hard-working small business owners.  Why were you hurting America?

Comment #19: Jesse Taylor  on  05/11  at  10:32 AM

Actually, the real “middle class” thing to do is bring your lunch with you to work, preferably in one of those vinyl, heat-preserving lunch bags to avoid any blue collar overtones. Once you’ve decided to “go out for lunch” with your coworkers, as Obama and Biden did, you’re committing yourself to at least an $8-$10 bill.

Oh how I miss the Chinese food sold out of a food truck for $3.

I do not use catsup

You’re from Pennsylvania. Did the PA Republicans start a boycott of Ketchup after the Heinz family went Democratic?

Comment #20: Tyro  on  05/11  at  10:34 AM

Tyro, actually, the vinyl lunch bags may be too much; the preferable thing to do is to pack it in a plastic grocery store bag.  Preferably the same one you’ve been using for the past couple of weeks.  In fact, every container you have should be reused, over and over again.

Comment #21: Jesse Taylor  on  05/11  at  10:52 AM

4 DOLLAR TOASTY TORPEDOES! 5 DOLLAR FOOTLONGS!

Comment #22: norbizness  on  05/11  at  10:52 AM

Sure, sure, but then you’re removing money from our economy and giving it to hard-working small business owners.  Why were you hurting America?

Or, worse yet, I could advocate making meals at home: huge casserole dishes that the whole family can sit down and eat together, and still have enough leftover to pack along for work the next day.

Family togetherness? A hearty meal for four at roughly the same price as a sugar-and-fat-laden burger meal? I’m an anti-American communist!

Comment #23: Mighty Ponygirl  on  05/11  at  10:57 AM

So I searched my recipe db for “Dijon.” This was too good to pass up.

Red, White, and Blue Potato salad
1 cup green onions, chopped
1 cup sour cream
½ cup mayonnaise
¼ cup white wine vinegar
4 tsp Dijon mustard
2 tsp sugar
2 tsp salt
1 tsp ground black pepper
1 lb baby red-skinned potatoes, unpeeled
1 lb small purple or blue potatoes, peeled
1 lb small white creamer or white rose potatoes, unpeeled
2 cups frozen peas, thawed
1 ½ cups blue cheese, crumbled
paprika

Whisk ½ cup green onions and next 7 ingredients in a medium bowl. Cover and chill dressing (can be made 1 day ahead. Cover and chill).

Place all potatoes in a large saucepan. Add enough water to cover by 1 inch. Sprinkle with salt. Bring to boil, reduce heat to medium, and boil until tender, 10 to 15 minutes (time will vary depending on size and variety of potatoes) Drain and cool to room temperature.

Cut potatoes into ½-inch-thick slices and place in a large bowl. Add dressing, peas, and blue cheese; toss gently. Cover and chill at least 2 hours and up to 1 day.

Sprinkle potato salad with paprika and remaining ½ cup green onions and serve.


There were other recipes for things like mustard-crusted tofu with kale and sweet potatoes, but that would have been a little too obviously elitist.

Comment #24: Mighty Ponygirl  on  05/11  at  11:00 AM

I overslept this morning and thus did not have time to pack a lunch.  In solidarity with our arugala-eating elitist president, I shall spend AT LEAST $7 on lunch today.  Suck it, you right-wing losers.

Comment #25: BadKitty  on  05/11  at  11:00 AM

<blockquote>So MSNBC didn’t think it was newsworthy to analyze famous people’s food choices? </blockuqote>

No, the scandal is MSNBC didn’t think it was newsworthy to analyze famous people’s CONDIMENT choices.  The condiment choice is incidental—failing to cover the incidentals is why Blackazoid is President.

Dana, why are you talking about mustard?  The issue is NOT mustard.  The issue is that the media doesn’t COVER the fact that the President asked for spicy mustard on his average-priced burger. 

You’re going to get your reichwing card yanked for messing up a talking point like that.

Comment #26: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  05/11  at  11:03 AM

It’s not just us.

Comment #27: Mighty Ponygirl  on  05/11  at  11:09 AM

the vinyl lunch bags may be too much; the preferable thing to do is to pack it in a plastic grocery store bag.  Preferably the same one you’ve been using for the past couple of weeks.  In fact, every container you have should be reused, over and over again.

What are you, a tree-hugging hippy?  Real Americans don’t reuse plastic grocery bags; they throw them in the trash.  In the fight against the environment, we’re winning!  Only an unpatriotic socialist would want to help the other side and take away our victory.  Besides, if saved money by reusing things, then we might have too much extra money and that would make us elitist.

Comment #28: bananacat  on  05/11  at  11:10 AM

Up next: scandalous pussywhipped president gives up Dijon because his wife didn’t approve that food choice directly!

Comment #29: Ms Kate  on  05/11  at  11:23 AM

He also went out to eat over in Virginia. All “real Americans” work in office parks where the only convenient place to get food is at the office cafeteria. Who does Obama think he is, taking an extended lunch to leave campus and go eat? It would have been even worse if he went to some local lunch place within walking distance of the white house, rubbing it in the faces of “real Americans” that he’s working in some kind of elitist city with lots of local eating establishments.

Comment #30: Tyro  on  05/11  at  11:27 AM

Tyro, I just got back from a three-city and two coast swing, including DC.  I thought the DC lunch scene has it all over Boston for quality and price and variety, but I still didn’t find many $6 lunches ... lots more $7 and $8 lunches than Boston though!

Comment #31: Ms Kate  on  05/11  at  11:35 AM

It would have been even worse if he went to some local lunch place within walking distance of the white house, rubbing it in the faces of “real Americans” that he’s working in some kind of elitist city with lots of local eating establishments.

Or worse yet, if he actually walked there. Unlike the exurbs and office parks that “real Americans” drive their SUVs between, DC is so elitist that it has sidewalks.

Comment #32: Gracchus.  on  05/11  at  11:37 AM

The Google text ads on this post are for “Fine Gourmet Mustards: Fallot, Pommery, Dijon, Grain, Spicy” and, next to that, “My Son the Socialist: Confronts Reality - A young man’s rude awakening.”

That makes me giggle.

Dijon mustard is quite nice on a cold cuts sandwich, but I wouldn’t like it with fries.

Last night I had a hamburger with regular yellow mustard, but with it, I drank elitist Duck Rabbit Milk Stout instead of Bud Lite.  WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Comment #33: snowmentality  on  05/11  at  11:40 AM

Apparently, and this is funny, buying a seven dollar lunch is now also a hallmark of elitism*, because no working person in the entire United States of America spends more than the cost of a McDonald’s value meal on lunch.  As most McDonald’s value meals run in the $5-6 range,

Around the suburbs where I work, once you figure in the various “convenience” taxes on fast food, that value meal is going to cost you over $7.

I mean, heck, 2 McDs hamburgers, plain and a small fry is about $3.50 after taxes here, and I certainly don’t want to eat that every day. *gack*

Comment #34: hp  on  05/11  at  11:55 AM

All “real Americans” work in office parks where the only convenient place to get food is at the office cafeteria.

Heh.  I work in an office park where the office cafeteria is the only convenient place to get food.  But I work in the elitist, America-hating entertainment industry, so we call our cafeteria a “commissary.”  So am I an average Jane working in an office park or an elitist America-hater dining on the blood of infants?

(True story:  the reason movie studios started having commissaries on site back in the silent days was that if you let the crew members and actors go out to lunch, they’d all come back drunk and you couldn’t get anything done the rest of the afternoon.  The studios decided it was more economical to offer food on-site where they could keep an eye on their employees.)

Comment #35: Mnemosyne  on  05/11  at  11:59 AM

“1 ½ cups blue cheese, crumbled “

...I was worried there for a second but you said “blue”, and not “bleu”, which would have been unforgivably French and would cry out for proper righteous condemnation…

“All “real Americans” work in office parks where the only convenient place to get food is at the office cafeteria.”

The office parks I know in SoCal, don’t usually have a cafeteria.  What you get instead is a sandwich shop (with premade, expensive, stale sandwiches), a fastfood Asian place, and some sleaze-hole place where you can get an overpriced and under-quality burger and some nasty fries, and a Starbucks or Starbucks clone where you can get overpriced pastries to go with your latte.

But maybe that’s just me…

Comment #36: MikeEss  on  05/11  at  12:02 PM

MikeEss: Well, really, it’s unamerican because I’m not using Velveta. Which is made by Kraft, which makes only 100% american wholesome products, except for Grey Poupon, which is a total commiedent.

Comment #37: Mighty Ponygirl  on  05/11  at  12:26 PM

In a perverse way, I’m somewhat impressed that Jacobsen managed to not only troll the blogosphere for attention, attracting people pointing out what an idiot he is, but also managed to ingratiate himself with the right-wing blogosphere, becoming their latest right-it it-boy blogger in the process.

Comment #38: Tyro  on  05/11  at  12:47 PM

I regularly get a 6 inch combo at Subway, which costs about $7.46.  It’s amazing that even Subway is off limits to real Americans now.

Comment #39: BrianD  on  05/11  at  01:22 PM

“All “real Americans” work in office parks where the only convenient place to get food is at the office cafeteria.”

At this point, I only know of one still-functioning cafeteria in an office park, on the corporate campus where my husband works. It’s also about to go the way of the dinosaur, since (1) you can’t get lunch there for under $7 anymore, and (2) their food sucks in comparison to what you can bring from home, or get for the about same price at the strip mall across the street from corp campus.

OF COURSE, though, there are no crosswalks to go to the strip mall across the street. So, you take your life in your hands walking over there, or you drive.

Comment #40: hp  on  05/11  at  01:24 PM

Oh how I miss the Chinese food sold out of a food truck for $3.

You and me both!

Comment #41: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  05/11  at  01:40 PM

the preferable thing to do is to pack it in a plastic grocery store bag.

Okay, see, I do this, but I thought it was because I was a tree-hugging hippy, not a red-blooded Every Man.

My in-laws are evangelical Christian Republicans, and their pantry and refrigerator on any given day contain not only Dijon mustard, but also blue cheese crumbles, balsamic vinegar and fancy-schmancy pre-washed mixed greens in a bag. And Buggles and Golden Grahams. People eat like that anymore. It’s both/and, not either/or.

Last time I worked in an office park, closest food options were Chile’s and Olive Garden (it was scarily like Office Space), followed by food court at the mall across the street. This was way back in the late 1990s, and even then you would be hard pressed to eat for less than $6.

Comment #42: chingona  on  05/11  at  01:54 PM

And how much did that real American George Bush spend on a typical lunch?  Cheney?  Turdblossom?  Would any of them have been caught dead with a $7 lunch ... just a $7 lunch?  Oh no, that wouldn’t have been presidential to eat what the little folk do.

Comment #43: Ms Kate  on  05/11  at  01:58 PM

Yeah, I get the impression the last time these jokers noticed how much they were paying for food was back in the Clinton admin, when $7 really was kinda pricey for lunch.

Comment #44: realityfighter  on  05/11  at  02:05 PM

followed by food court at the mall across the street.

I’m thinking about the food court at the mall I’m most likely to frequent.  The restaurants:

A salad/sandwich joint.
A Japanese joint
A local Indian chain
A burger place (not one of the big local chains, unless “Flamers” is one of those)
A soup place specializing in clam chowder
a chicken rotisserie
A local pizza chain
A national Chinese food chain
A burrito joint

Is vindaloo from the mall food court an everyman thing or is it being a cosmopolitan elitist?

Comment #45: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  05/11  at  02:06 PM

Yeah, I get the impression the last time these jokers noticed how much they were paying for food was back in the Clinton admin, when $7 really was kinda pricey for lunch.

Gee - think somebody else was buying them stuff in the years between Bubba Antichrist and Barack Who Ruined Everyting?

Comment #46: Ms Kate  on  05/11  at  02:10 PM

MAJeff, every been to Punjabi Dhaba in Inman Square?  No truck involved, but you get a cafeteria tray loaded down with any of many dishes for cheap.

Comment #47: Ms Kate  on  05/11  at  02:12 PM

When people are that totally irrational and detached from anything resembling sense, it’s something else.  Racism, probably.

Comment #48: Punditus Maximus  on  05/11  at  02:13 PM

MAJeff, every been to Punjabi Dhaba in Inman Square?  No truck involved, but you get a cafeteria tray loaded down with any of many dishes for cheap.

No, I haven’t, but it sounds like a good thing to do before I leave town.

Comment #49: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits  on  05/11  at  02:18 PM

Sometimes an edit is just an edit, but Jacobsen didn’t seem to notice.

Comment #50: Ol_Froth  on  05/11  at  02:42 PM

isn’t there another irony here?

Obama didn’t want Ketchup.

The biggest Ketchup company in the US is…wait for it…Heinz.

As in Teresa Heinz-Kerry.  That anti-american Senator John Kerry’s wife.

I think their outrage is blowing a gasket.  One would think that they’d be hating on ketchup for being anti-american, seeing as it helped drive the Kerry Presidential campaign and ketchup money has probably boosted a lot of Democrats over time.  From newsmeat, it looks like Teresa alone has contributed about $150k to Democrats over the past 3 cycles.

Comment #51: jerry_101  on  05/11  at  02:48 PM

I’ve taken to drinking beer in the form of micheladas.  That is, with lime juice, salt, and hot sauce.  Most refreshin’, though I’m sure it gives aid and comfort to those crafty Islamic terrorists infiltrating our country cunningly disguised as Spanish-speaking day/migrant laborers.  Bad rabbit, bad!

Comment #52: kaninchen  on  05/11  at  02:51 PM

Is vindaloo from the mall food court an everyman thing or is it being a cosmopolitan elitist?

I have a feeling you live in a blue state. No red-state mall food court would be caught dead leasing space to an Indian restaurant.

Gee - think somebody else was buying them stuff in the years between Bubba Antichrist and Barack Who Ruined Everyting?

This is what I’m thinking. They don’t buy their own lunches, so they have no idea what lunch costs. Not that you can’t get lunch for under $5 - my options are Subway and taco truck - but it’s not exactly what you’d like to eat every day (for different reasons - Subway cause it’s bleh and taco truck cause you’ll pay for that cheap lunch for the rest of the afternoon). So, like most people, I bring my lunch most days, and when I go out, I go somewhere I actually like the food and pay a few extra dollars.

Comment #53: chingona  on  05/11  at  02:53 PM

I’ve taken to drinking beer in the form of micheladas.  That is, with lime juice, salt, and hot sauce.

We had our first few days over 100 here in Tucson, and last night I had my first michelada of the season. So perfect after a really hot day!

Comment #54: chingona  on  05/11  at  02:55 PM

It’s not that hot here in Dallas yet, chingona, but we’ve got humidity to contend with.  I think I’d rather have proper desert heat.  Either way, micheladas FTW.

Comment #55: kaninchen  on  05/11  at  02:57 PM

I’ll take Tucson over Dallas any day. We start to get humid in late June or early July, and it’s pretty fucking miserable (we have a swamp cooler, which uses evaporation, and DOES NOT WORK AT ALL if it’s humid). But as long as it’s dry and under 110, it’s pretty manageable. Above 110, it’s just hot, dry heat be damned.

Comment #56: chingona  on  05/11  at  03:04 PM

So I’m confused. Real Americans are supposed to be outraged when the President orders a $7 burger, but not when they try to repeal the Estate tax?

Comment #57: Col Bat Guano  on  05/11  at  03:05 PM

But hold it. Obama makes more than 200 grand a year. Isn’t it his duty to buy expensive meals, and shouldn’t we be celebrating them the same way the mags celebrate bailed-out bankers squirting champagne on each other?

Comment #58: paul  on  05/11  at  03:12 PM

It would have been even worse if he went to some local lunch place within walking distance of the white house, rubbing it in the faces of “real Americans” that he’s working in some kind of elitist city with lots of local eating establishments.

There are some places in D.C., namely Georgetown, that can qualify as a “real” city, but the area encompassing the Capitol, the White House, and even the Smithsonian is a no-man’s land.  And, since everything’s so spread out, it’s a major pain in the ass to walk to wherever you’re going.  Another example of why planned cities typically suck, even when they were initially planned and built two centuries ago.

Comment #59: keshmeshi  on  05/11  at  03:14 PM

I demand a list of non-elitist food serving places (‘cause they couldn’t possibly be restaurants) where one could eat for less than $7 at lunch.

I’m sure there’s somewhere they throw day-old bread at you and tainted meat “rescued” from the pound, but at least it would be within my serf budget.

Comment #60: judybrowni  on  05/11  at  03:16 PM

dry heat be damned.

In Calexico, CA, on the Mexican border, there is a law that states every house shall have a working facet and a working hose so that if someone needs to cool-off/rehydrate quickly, they can do so.

It’s only suppose to get to 90 here, I can work outside as long as I get a drink of water every couple of hours or so smile

Comment #61: Dark Avenger Guardian Chow Mein  on  05/11  at  03:22 PM

I demand a list of non-elitist food serving places (’cause they couldn’t possibly be restaurants) where one could eat for less than $7 at lunch.

We have this odd little place across the street which serves an mixture of korean, japanese, and greek foods. They have a large chicken teriyaki bowl that they sell for $4, and if you want to drink green tea, it’s free.

In fact . . . thinking of all the places where I know I can get cheaper lunches, it’s always the Asian places. At my last job, our cheap lunch places where all Thai or Korean.

But I think that Asian == elitist, so . . . *head explodes*

Comment #62: hp  on  05/11  at  03:37 PM

I hereby announce that I am a conservative, a registered Republican, as reichwing as Mike Ess could ever want, but yes, I use Dijon mustard.

IOKYAR.

See, you also would be alright if you’re rich.  If you’re rich, you can do whatever you want.  Unless you’re a rich Democrat.

Comment #63: Chocolate Covered Cotton  on  05/11  at  03:45 PM

most real Americans will offset the cost of the meal the next day,

True. Now I’m filled with Republican faux outrage that Michelle is not packing The Leader of the Free World a sack lunch consisting of

1 - PB&J;sandwich
2 - apples
1 - mini pack of raisins
1 - juice box
2 - napkins
2 - Hershey’s kisses

Comment #64: Hector B.  on  05/11  at  04:37 PM

I’m still baffled that anyone could possibly think that anyone would consider the President “elitist” for asking for a condiment that can be bought in the grocery store in a squeeze bottle.

Comment #65: Punditus Maximus  on  05/11  at  05:00 PM

Buggles and Golden Grahams.

@ chingona:  Video Killed the Radio Star, and also pre-packaged snack foods.

Comment #66: FlipYrWhig  on  05/11  at  07:36 PM

RobW, Sushi No Gakusei wrote:

I hereby announce that I am a conservative, a registered Republican, as reichwing as Mike Ess could ever want, but yes, I use Dijon mustard. (me)

IOKYAR.

See, you also would be alright if you’re rich.  If you’re rich, you can do whatever you want.  Unless you’re a rich Democrat.

I’m not poor by any means, but I wouldn’t be considered rich.  I’d point out that this reichwing Republican also eats sushi and sashimi; I really hope that I don’t have to turn in my konservative kard. 

However, to prove I am a patriotic American, all that I have to do is call the Bowmanstown Diner in the morning and say, “I’m starving,” and they’ll have my traditional breakfast ready for me: two eggs looking at me, bacon, home fries, buttered rye toast, and a large OJ.

Comment #67: Dana  on  05/11  at  08:02 PM

snowmentality wrote:

Dijon mustard is quite nice on a cold cuts sandwich, but I wouldn’t like it with fries.

The condiment to be used on French fries is determined by what’s available: malt vinegar from Long John Silvers, Dijon mustard, A-1 steak sauce, shrimp cocktail sauce and even tartar sauce.  I don’t hate <strike>catsup</strike> ketchup, but it really doesn’t appeal to me very much.

Comment #68: Dana  on  05/11  at  08:07 PM

My favorite condiment for fries - or, really, any potato product, especially baked potatoes - is Valentín hot sauce. Though A-1 steak sauce is quite good, too.

Comment #69: chingona  on  05/11  at  09:09 PM

You can get a decent banh mi sandwich for ~$4-$5.  Best damn thing to ever come out of colonialism.

Comment #70: liminalist  on  05/11  at  09:42 PM

You can get a decent banh mi sandwich for ~$4-$5.

[sigh]  I remember when you could get a decent banh mi sandwich for $2-$3, or a big bowl of pho for $5. Inflation.


Regarding fries: This SF joint sells fries with 20 different dipping sauces, from pesto mayonnaise to chipotle remoulade to ponzu ketchup.

http://www.frjtzfries.com/menu.pdf

Comment #71: Hector B.  on  05/12  at  01:38 AM

I don’t understand the obsession people have for dipping fries in anything.

Fried potatoes, with a bit of salt, are wonderful if properly done. Only poorly made fried potatoes need sauces to hide the limp texture. Otoh, there are other ways to add flavor; cheese or herb coatings, that are divine.

Comment #72: Samantha Vimes  on  05/12  at  06:29 AM

‘Dijongate’- a Racist Dog-Whistle

From reading some comments at non-left sites I think I have figured out the racist purpose of ‘Dijongate’.

If one assumes negros are inferior then they could not be sophisticated enough to appreciate any thing more than the most basic of condiments. Obama probably would have been happier to have been eating watermelon than his fancy hamburger.

Obama’s mustard preference is just an example of him acting uppity and ‘apeing’ a sophistication that it is impossible for him to have. And what could be more pretentious than pretending French pretentiousness and using the word ‘Dijon’ that negros can’t understand.

In the racist perspective it doesn’t matter what white people like Sean Hannity eat.  Bush’s favorite deviled eggs can contain Dijon mustard and one of his cabinet members can like ‘coq au vin’.

Were Obama seen eating such food then it wouldn’t be because he liked them but only because he is pretending to white.

A lot of people are saying the right-wing is silly to criticize Obama for an ‘elite’ mustard preference such as ‘Grey Pupon’ that is American made and available in near 100% of grocery stores. Why did they harp on it? I think it is to convince their base that no negro is better than them even if their favorite sandwich is bologna on white bread with yellow mustard and mayonnaise. Obama is not better than them, he is just trying to seem so by using fancy talk.

Comment #73: MonkeyBoy  on  05/12  at  08:02 AM

I overslept this morning and thus did not have time to pack a lunch.  In solidarity with our arugala-eating elitist president, I shall spend AT LEAST $7 on lunch today.  Suck it, you right-wing losers.

Unless I headed to Chinatown or ordered lunch specials from Asian restaurants, there’s no way I can eat out on less than $7 close to my workplaces…not even at a McDonalds….especially in NYC.

Comment #74: exholt  on  05/12  at  11:10 AM
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