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imageWhen I graduated college, I considered getting individual insurance while I was looking for steady work.  Of course, after seeing the monthly premiums that would land me a prime $5,000 deductible and little to no coverage for routine healthcare (along with the always-awesome set of discount cards that’ll land you a cool 15% off at Lenscrafters…as will your $1.50 Sunday paper), I skipped it and ran the risk of having to pay for anything that came up.  As risky as it felt with the ingrained message that without health insurance you die in a fetid swamp of debt, the only time that an affordable policy made sense was if I anticipated having invasive surgery at some point before getting a job with more affordable insurance.  Being young and healthy, spending hundreds of dollars a month in order to have the privilege of spending thousands before being denied for my medical needs seemed about as appealing as a nice harsh buzz off a liter of Boone’s Farm.  And a much less appealing story to tell when I’m wheeled into the emergency room.

The LA Times discusses the growing individual policy market today, and it’s not pretty.

Unlike group plans, which must accept all qualified applicants and can’t base a member’s premium on his or her medical history, individual plans in most states (including California) are free to cherry-pick the healthiest customers.

Insurers can reject applicants for even mild preexisting conditions. People have been turned down for individual policies because they have hay fever, have suffered from jock itch or use common medicines such as cholesterol-lowering drugs, records and interviews show. Even those lucky enough to have insurance are uncertain they can keep it or count on it in a crisis.

The basis of the individual insurance market is drawing in a pool of healthy people having no history of medical problems who still want to insure against grave, low-probability risk, and are willing to pay to ensure the quality of coverage they’d expect in such a situation.  Unfortunately, you generally don’t get to the point where you feel the need to purchase insurance on your own without something having happened to instill the value of it into you.

The second problem, of course, comes in the fact that no insurer wants to cover more than any other insurer, because they’ll be swamped with all the people who can’t get covered anywhere else:

Insurers insist that they can’t stay in business without excluding chronic disease sufferers, known in the industry as “clinical train wrecks.” But companies in the individual market also want to avoid even marginal risk—adopting a practice some insiders call “hangnail underwriting.”

Even nonprofits such as Blue Shield of California are obliged to follow prevailing market practices, lest they be swamped with the highest-cost customers.

“That’s the game,” said Cindy Ehnes, director of the California Department of Managed Health Care. Risk selection, she said, “must be part of every insurer’s strategy or else they potentially will get all the bad risk.”

Keep in mind this is the exact type of market that John McCain wants to push us towards - the kind where we all make informed consumer choices about which of a great variety of insurers will one day, at best, make us fight with them over the denial of coverage for the bleeding head wound that they’ve declared a preexisting condition.  That, my friends, is cranial damage you can believe in.

 

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Posted by Jesse Taylor on 06:28 PM • (29) Comments

and we can’t get nationalized health benefit because WHY?

Oh wait I forgot- it’s “socialism”- and the bank bailout of millinos of taxpayer dollars and no taxpayer getting any benefit from it is what now?

The medical benefits are one of the main reasons why I regret my great grandparents leaving the UK.

*sigh*

I hate this world sometimes.

Comment #1: Danica Lefse Queen  on  10/21  at  06:45 PM

Hey, don’t be picking on Lenscrafters!  They take my insurance…and they always make sure to compare my coverage with whatever deal they currently have running.  Like how my son broke his glasses (at 13 months, so the year-long guarantee was void) and they checked my insurance vs. their half-off kids’ frames special. 

Now why I can’t get the special and have my insurance work is another question, at least they ran the numbers and gave me the lower deal.  (For the curious, it was the Lenscrafters half-off deal.  My insurance co-pay was higher).

before getting a job with more affordable surgery.

  I think you mean ‘affordable insurance’ up there.

OK, can someone explain to me why it’s more cost-effective to have multiple insurance agencies, some for-profit, some non-profit, that split up the pool of applicants, instead of having ONE BIG NATIONALIZED POOL that can spread the cost of everyone’s pre-existing issues over all the healthy young folk out there.

And can Mr. Obama please explain why he wants to help me become insured instead of helping me receive good health care from the provider of my choice?  I just don’t understand why insurance agencies are involved at all—what is the added value they give to the transaction?  They cause Americans to pay twice as much per capita for healthcare as other Westernized nations, but besides adding ungodly amounts of red tape and sucking money from the system, what real VALUE do they add to either the providers or the patients?

Hmmm?  Buehler?

So if the industry adds NO VALUE, and indeed increases the costs of doing business while limiting decent healthcare to the wealthy, why are we protecting the industry?  Mr. Obama?  Beuhler?  Johnny McCain, sit down and do the reading.

Comment #2: Caren-Sun-blocking Creator of Animorphic Pancakes  on  10/21  at  06:51 PM

Just remember that McCain has lived most of his life under a magnificent government administered health plan, especially in over two decades as a U.S. Senator.  When asked about this by the editorial writers at the Des Moines Register, he replied, “That’s an interesting statement”—this can be viewed on Youtube.  Pardon me, but isn’t that hypocritical to campaign for free market medical health insurance?  I also note that McCain will receive a wonderful Senatorial pension after he retires, once again a government administered program.  Amusing, hypocritical or just an intentional blind spot?

Comment #3: OCPatriot  on  10/21  at  07:02 PM

Caren - this is probably because it’s easier - for now - to create change within the framework of the existing system than to scrap the whole thing and start fresh.

Comment #4: Joshua  on  10/21  at  07:03 PM

Not to mention that even if you do get a policy, the insurers will often cancel it with a lame excuse if you do get sick and need healthcare.  We had a huge scandal over this in California just last year, and Blue Cross was one of the worst offenders.  It’s called rescission.

I can’t remember if it’s one of the stories in that link, but my “favorite” was the woman who came down with a hereditary eye disease that she didn’t even know ran in her family.  Her insurer canceled her policy for not disclosing that she might get a disease that even she didn’t know she might get.

Comment #5: Mnemosyne  on  10/21  at  07:07 PM

What do you mean the industry adds no value? The Soul-Sucking Blue Cross Mega Office Complex across the street from my job has a huge cafeteria where I can buy apple and brie sandwiches. No joke. Of course I’m sure they could still use my consumption of those sandwiches as a reason to deny me coverage, that is if I could afford it in the first place.

That’s value for ya.

Comment #6: iena  on  10/21  at  07:10 PM

So if the industry adds NO VALUE, and indeed increases the costs of doing business while limiting decent healthcare to the wealthy, why are we protecting the industry?

Because they pay politicians.

This has been another edition of simple answers to stupid questions.

Comment #7: Phoenician in a time of Romans  on  10/21  at  07:12 PM

Danica: and we can’t get nationalized health benefit because WHY?

A common argument I have seen in the comments here and in other blogs is, “It’s too difficult.”

Comment #8: inge  on  10/21  at  07:37 PM

Because they employ thousands of people and buy services from thousands of businesses big and small. Not that that should make any more difference than any other excuse. But eliminating an entire industry does have impacts.

Comment #9: Bo  on  10/21  at  07:39 PM

I can’t remember if it’s one of the stories in that link, but my “favorite” was the woman who came down with a hereditary eye disease that she didn’t even know ran in her family.  Her insurer canceled her policy for not disclosing that she might get a disease that even she didn’t know she might get.

My favorite was the company who cancelled my dad’s policy when he was diagnosed with lung cancer. Because he wasn’t diagnosed **sooner**.

Try to parse that one out. “Yes, we know you had no symptoms, but where is your INTUITION? My GOD, man! No healthcare for you.”

Just kind of makes you swell with national pride when your country kills your father in his 50s. God fucking bless America.

Comment #10: Well, what?  on  10/21  at  07:43 PM

Because they employ thousands of people and buy services from thousands of businesses big and small. Not that that should make any more difference than any other excuse. But eliminating an entire industry does have impacts.

True, which is why it needs to be well-planned.  There will still be jobs for the little people—you’ll still going to need claims processors and accountants, it’s just that they’ll be working for the government instead.  The people who are really going to need help are the middle-management types, the people doing the marketing and advertising, etc. whose services won’t be needed but who won’t have too many other places to go.

For instance, my husband would probably still have a job under a single-payer system:  he’s a warehouse supervisor for a home infusion services company.  People will still need home infusion, so there will still be jobs for the people doing patient intake, the pharmacists who mix the drugs, the warehouse guys who pack the delivery, the nurses who go to the patient’s house to get them set up, etc.  The people who will go will be all of those vice presidents and territory managers and salespeople, which kinda sucks for them.  (Though I won’t shed any tears if his VP gets laid off—the guy is an ass.)

Comment #11: Mnemosyne  on  10/21  at  07:48 PM

Health insurance companies seem to have perfected the lottery system: Charge as much as possible, deliver as little as possible and keep your customers unable to play the system by making the rules of payout both obscure and random. The disadvantage that lotteries face is that no one needs to play. You can go through life without ever purchasing a lottery ticket. But you cannot go through life without a health care emergency, so everyone has a very strong incentive to play in the health insurance casino.

Comment #12: inge  on  10/21  at  07:55 PM

This kind of thing is why I am afraid to ever have my own business or work anywhere that isn’t huge and institutional again.

Comment #13: Jennifer  on  10/21  at  08:28 PM

known in the industry as “clinical train wrecks.”

fuck yeah i always wanted a nickname.

Comment #14: jessilikewhoa  on  10/21  at  08:49 PM

What Jennifer said, especially because my husband has a chronic condition that requires constant management. Any notion that I could pursue some long-delayed dream, write a book, open a business, go back to school if he ever got a job that made enough to support us both for the interim is pretty much out the window because if he ever lost that job, we would be totally and royally fucked.

Comment #15: chingona  on  10/21  at  09:09 PM

The next time McCain bitches about Obama having so much more money than he does, he should be told to go hit up his friends (aka “masters”) in the health insurance industry.

Comment #16: Bitter Scribe  on  10/21  at  10:01 PM

If you believe Obama’s stump speech, and it is just the sort of thing that would be true, the insurance companies tried to cut his mother’s benefits off because Ovarian Cancer can take up to 20 to 40 years to become detectable, so therefore it must be a preexisting condition!

Comment #17: Ms Kate  on  10/21  at  10:49 PM

I’ll be perfectly blunt: Modern private health insurance is a scam. It is, in fact, the scammiest scam that ever came to scam-town. It’s little more than institutionalized grift.

Comment #18: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster  on  10/21  at  11:33 PM

So, Obama’s plan, as I understand it, is to allow free choice for all the ‘socialism’ phobes out there, and basically medicare for the rest of us. When the ‘socialism’ phobes see us medicare types get GREAT care, they too, will want great care and will request medicare. There. It’s an evolutionary policy that requires: 1. majorities of the house and senate and 2. two terms in office. At least.
So, we have our work cut out for ourselves.

Comment #19: jean  on  10/22  at  01:13 AM

Ah, yes, train wrecks. I remember them well, having spent many miserable 12 hr shifts with the poor unfortunates. 20 years working in a trauma unit.
My best advice: Avoid it at all costs. Wear a helmet and ‘belt in. Oh, and don’t smoke. You’ll be glad you quit/didn’t EVER start.

Comment #20: jean  on  10/22  at  01:19 AM

I just got on my partner’s insurance after years of having my own charge-big-premiums and pay-for-nothing policy. It’s practically heaven! I never want to go back to the individual market again.

The only people who think the individual insurance market is a good ideas are people who have never, ever had to buy their own insurance.

Comment #21: Phoebe Fay  on  10/22  at  01:20 AM

WORD Phoeba Fay.

I live in TEXAS, a “right-to-work” (non-union) state, and 1/3 of Texans are completely uninsured for health, and the government DOES NOT require employers to insure their workers.

That is why the Texas economy has been “booming” for thirty years. You are allowed, even encouraged, to screw over the workers here.

I have NEVER held a job that even OFFERED insurance. THe only insurance I have ever had is individual, and it costs a fortune and covers nothing. I haven’t had to deal with “will they pay if anything happens?”, I hope I never need to.

We need Nationalized Healthcare yesterday. NIXON (NIXON!!!) wanted it. CLinton wanted it. I think, at this point, that even the DOCTORS want it, because they are sick and tired of being told what they can treat and how by bean-counters.

Comment #22: KMTBERRY  on  10/22  at  02:16 AM

This kind of thing is why I am afraid to ever have my own business or work anywhere that isn’t huge and institutional again.

THIS is why corporate America really likes the current system.  A scared worker is a compliant worker.

Comment #23: RobW  on  10/22  at  02:21 AM

Nice.  Google ad at the bottom of the thread right now says, “Don’t Buy a COBRA Plan, Buy an individual policy and save.”

Comment #24: RobW  on  10/22  at  02:25 AM

I think I’ve talked about my insurance woes before, but I will say it again:  Socialized medicine is the bee’s knees.  I was on Medicaid while I was putting myself through school (again) and I never had to worry about anything.  It was so refreshing.

Then I made more than $850/month and there is no step-down system where you can pay pro-rated rates until you’re making enough to buy insurance.  The first quote I got, not from individual but because the tiny company I work for (5 employees) was looking into giving us insurance, was from Blue Cross and it was $600/month.  I passed out.

Then I got flat-out denied insurance by the next to two companies I applied to.  Then I got hooked up with an insurance broker (a whole new industry that has popped up since people have such problems finding insurance) and he told me to join the National Association for the Self-Employed since they have a group plan.  For my $200/month, I get decent insurance, but they refuse to cover anything having to with my hyperthyroidism except the medicine.  So every time I go to the specialist and get blood drawn (every 8 weeks), I have to pay out of pocket for all that.  Kind of makes the insurance not worth it, except the insurance covers vision and dental and I don’t pay for any routine medical care.  So I still feel like I’m getting screwed, but not royally.

I think they should do away with the health care plans they give to congress.  I guarantee this problem would be solved in months.

Comment #25: speedbudget  on  10/22  at  09:51 AM

If anyone who lives in Maryland is looking for an individual policy, I found that Maryland’s flavor of Blue Cross, Carefirst, actually *does* have affordable individual family policies.

For $300/month I insured myself, three children (later four) and my husband. We had a family deductible of $3000 and an individual deductible of $1500. The idea was to have something that would cover us for a catastrophe (or a pregnancy), not something that would pay for routine doctor’s visits. They made me jump through hoops to get the coverage (they claimed they had mailed me a document that they never mailed me, and then they tried to cancel me for not having sent them back the document), but they put my son’s ADHD on a nine-month coverage hold and didn’t lock out any other (much less serious) pre-existing conditions, such as his allergies. (They *did* try to avoid paying for my pregnancy in the belief that it was a pre-existing condition, because my daughter was premature and they counted back nine months from her birthdate and claimed I hadn’t been insured yet, but I presented evidence that she was a preemie and demonstrated when the doctors believed I had conceived her, and I made them pay up.)

It wasn’t great—we paid a *lot* of money for routine health care out of our pockets. But in the end it was cheaper than COBRA would have been and it paid for almost all of my $15000 hospital bill at the end of my pregnancy.

Young healthy people—particularly young healthy women who would keep a pregnancy if they got knocked up—*should* buy individual policies and consider them basically similar to life insurance. They aren’t there to pay for your health care; they’re there to pay out if something terrible happens to you that would otherwise bankrupt you, or if you or your spouse gets pregnant.

That being said of course the industry is a clusterfuck. *if* we were committed to retaining a free market in insurance, the way to do it properly is divorce it completely from your employer. Right now the reason your employer can get a group plan, but you and your role-playing group can’t, is that the laws say that only businesses and trade associations can get group health insurance. Cut that tie, and allow insurance companies to “bundle” individuals by zip code, so that everyone with the insurance in the same zip code shares the same risk pool (or, better yet, bundle across the entire state.) If the insurance won’t do it, legislate the creation of a category of bundling businesses, whose job is to take *you* on as a customer, bundle you with a zillion other people in your state, and sell you group health insurance. You would have the choice of any health insurance provider that your bundler offers, and if you don’t like their choices you could go to another bundler. Because you are the bundler’s customer and they make their money off you buying insurance, not off denying you care, they become your advocates to the health insurer and make sure you aren’t cut off for bullshit reasons. The risk pool becomes larger than any company except maybe IBM or other Fortune 500’s can provide, the freedom of choice allows free competition (we don’t currently have a competitive market, because the consumer of health insurance is not the purchaser of the insurance when it comes to employer-provided group plans, and people have little influence over their employers.)

I advocated this model in the 1990’s to avoid having to go to single payer. Sadly, I think it’s too late. The situation has gotten so dire that my strategy will no longer work, and it is necessary to have single payer insurance. But if McCain had wanted to create a free-market plan that isn’t laughably bad, he could have addressed the issue of making individual insurance more *like* group insurance.

Comment #26: Alara Rogers  on  10/22  at  10:49 AM

When you’re young an healthy and childless, health insurance is a crapshoot, but as soon as you have kids it’s damn near financial suicide not to have it (speaking as someone who was awfully happy to see a much, much smaller number below that $129,000 for NICU charges). Kids get infections, they get every disease they’re not vaccinated for and some they are, they have checkups at least once a year, and if you’re not paying the lower rates the insurance company has negotiated, you’re screwed.

There are a lot of people who would have to find new jobs if insurance companies went away or were thoroughly reformed into public utilities. But that’s a good thing. Those people would be able to actually provide health care, or help rebuild our country’s crumbling pretty much everything, or any number of other things that will be enabled by lifting that effing administrative deadweight from our economy.

Comment #27: paul  on  10/22  at  12:24 PM

For that matter, paul, any woman who might get pregnant (by which I mean any woman of child-bearing age who is having sex with men, has not herself been surgically sterilized, and who would plan to carry a pregnancy to term should she become pregnant; obviously if you’re childfree and would abort any pregnancy you conceived, you don’t have to worry about this, as insurance often doesn’t cover abortions anyway) should carry health insurance. Once you are pregnant, you cannot get coverage for it—it’s a pre-existing condition—and a hospital delivery can run $24K. Mine did. And even if you were planning to have a home birth with a midwife, emergency complications *can* come up even in a healthy young woman’s pregnancy, and if the midwife has to send you to the hospital on an emergency basis, you’re going to pay. Quite a lot.

You don’t have to be actively planning to start a family—all you have to be to run the risk is even vaguely open to the possibility, while having heterosexual sex. If there’s *any* chance you would decide not to abort (or any chance you wouldn’t be able to abort—for example, you live in South Dakota), you should have health insurance. I didn’t know that when I was younger, and I took risks. it’s one thing to think “Oh, I’m not going to get cancer, and I’m a careful driver, I won’t get hit by a bus”; quite another for a woman to think “There’s no chance I could get pregnant.”

(BTW, now that I think of it, this is a very clear statement that pro-lifers should support universal health care. As long as a woman must have health insurance as soon as she conceives a child, or else she cannot be covered for an expense that might run thousands of dollars, she has a *very* strong financial incentive to get an abortion if she’s not insured. And the income cutoff where states will cover pregnant women is much, much lower than the point where you can comfortably pay $24K out of pocket. You can be a person making $100K a year and *still* not be able to afford $24K for a pregnancy, and if you can’t buy the insurance once you’re already pregnant, it really doesn’t matter if you could afford to pay for the individual policy.)

Comment #28: Alara Rogers  on  10/22  at  02:19 PM

It doesn’t matter if there’s one insurer or a dozen if everyone can’t be denied the ability to choose and everyone has to pay some insurance.

But then again, that’d be the same as having single payer, just less efficient, so of course conservatives are against it…

Comment #29: Crissa  on  10/22  at  07:30 PM
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